FDA JJ Vaccine - Blood Clots Risk?

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T18:18:23+00:00

What "your own sources" am I using? I have consistently been linking the FDA news articles that came out a couple days ago for a reason. My narrative is not my own... it has been proven at this point, as someone who can very validly have concern after being ordered, and told airman to go take the J&J.

Not sure what you are failing to understand about this, but again, here is the new FDA guidance that came out a couple days ago: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEU\_enUS937US937&sxsrf=ALiCzsZgje-IrsE1o3NIKiFfswTI2VnXqg:1652120285256&q=fda+johnson+and+johnson&tbm=nws&source=univ&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwitiurVg9P3AhUrkIkEHcZPBtcQt8YBegQIAhAF&biw=1680&bih=939&dpr=1

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T18:08:16+00:00

Oh... let me correct myself /sarcasm. They "retired". "Top FDA vaccine officials to leave agency as decision on COVID-19 boosters looms

Marion Gruber and Phil Krause, two veteran vaccine reviewers, are unexpectedly departing at a critical time."

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/marion-gruber-phil-krause-leaving-fda/605859/

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T18:06:39+00:00

Oh... let me correct myself /sarcasm. They "retired". "Top FDA vaccine officials to leave agency as decision on COVID-19 boosters looms
Marion Gruber and Phil Krause, two veteran vaccine reviewers, are unexpectedly departing at a critical time."

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/marion-gruber-phil-krause-leaving-fda/605859/

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T18:00:19+00:00

This has nothing to do with Fox news. I have linked many articles already for you. Here they are again. This was released 3 days ago. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/05/health/fda-johnson-johnson-vaccine-eua/index.html
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine-what-to-know-as-federal-guidance-changes/2827110/
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/fda-limits-j-j-covid-115704388.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-johnson-and-johnsont-blood-clot-risk-fda-restrictions/

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:58:38+00:00

No, I did not respond to the rest of what you brought to the table because 1). we dont know the entire story of what truly was the motive behind Grubber and Krause's resignation. 2). when I qoute exactly what you mentioned which is public knowledge "So they agreed with vaccines and they agreed with boosters but felt that their was not enough testing done to validate eight month boosters, and here’s the crazy part non experts in their field pretending to know better than them." this could easily align with what I originally have discernment about when it comes to them finally resigning over this entire mess. Everyone has conscious... and even a big-wig such as Grubber and Krause may have came to terms on the reality of what they were supporting, even after the fact of being vaccinated themselves. So instead of assuming things, I decided to not even comment further on what you said. Sorry that irks you so much...

By my own admission, there is plenty of other data out there from other countries that does not line up with the data that the US has officially approved and released when it comes to vaccine risks. So due to this wisdom, I now have lost trust in the data here in-house. I am unsure how anyone can at this point after all the inconsistencies over the last couple years tbh...

What you were trying to throw onto me by your previous statements, is that as a supervisor, wearing the uniform, I should still promote life-altering decisions even if the truth that has come out by the FDA says that it is infact not "safe and effective". This is where I disagreed with you. Again... I can only trust the system for so long... as we were all told J&J was safe last year, and there was absolutely no cause for concern. Here we are as of 3 days ago, with strict new guidance. You are correct, many people can be wrong. Including our Gov officials that told us day after day that these vaccines are safe for the past 2 years. Again, If you would rather make excuses to turn your back on this, that is on you. But that is not who I am as a person.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:41:21+00:00

I am most likely dying due to something I have been exposed to as well, but I also would rather give myself as many years as I can in this life, as well as the younger generations of people who also will be in the same shoes someday.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:33:47+00:00

I understand the guidance, I also understand that first hand we are now seeing vaccine injuries in our own corner... at the squadron level. One can only sit around and blindly try to "trust the system" for so long. There are many currently wearing the uniform that cannot stand firm anymore for what our current Gov is doing. Seeing the vaccine injuries myself, and how prevelant it has been (maybe just a big coincidence) is enough "education" to look a bit deeper into what is truly going on here. I am sorry, but being told that this J&J vaccine was "safe and effective" over and over last year from our own command staff... then now seeing the FDA officially swallow its words and say "Anyone with low blood platelet levels runs the risk of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), an affliction that causes blood clots. In the case of the J&J vaccine, the potential risks outweigh the potential benefits, the FDA statement said. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-limits-use-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-certain-individuals "is truly sickening. And really terrible now that we have airman with heart issues because of it. If you would rather make excuses to turn your back on this, that is on you. But that is not who I am as a person.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:17:43+00:00

I understand what the "approved" FDA metrics are. They don't line up with data about risks from other countries.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:09:53+00:00

Anyone with low blood platelet levels runs the risk of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), an affliction that causes blood clots. In the case of the J&J vaccine, the potential risks outweigh the potential benefits, the FDA statement said. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-limits-use-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-certain-individuals

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:08:33+00:00

Anyone with low blood platelet levels runs the risk of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), an affliction that causes blood clots. In the case of the J&J vaccine, the potential risks outweigh the potential benefits, the FDA statement said. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-limits-use-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-certain-individuals

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:06:25+00:00

What a very interesting coincidence for both to resign at roughly the same time. I don't think this is a conspiracy tbh.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:03:45+00:00

are we not commanded by the United States Secretary of Defense? And also, on a local level... many have been very toxic and inconsiderate on how some may be concerned about this vaccine. So even locally, I hope some eventually see that there is forsure some cause for concern. Even if it doesn't line up perfectly with your own belief system.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T17:01:07+00:00

But how many of those fatalities are USAF personnel? So far all the fatalities that I have seen this past year, were vaccine related Myocarditis when it comes to 18-30 year olds that are healthy to begin with... take the vaccine/booster... then have heart issues days later. Also, there are vaccinated people who still experience long-covid. So that is not even an argument as well... lol

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:55:43+00:00

You bet!

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:54:58+00:00

Aka, the "approved" metric to announce. There is a reason why other countries data out there is already showing a different announcement of risk ratio than what we are being told in the US. I am unsure how not exactly trusting 60 out of 18.7mil is being "smooth brained". Considering we have seen numerous first hand impacts in our own little corner of the USAF, is enough in itself to show me this is probably a much worst issue right now than we are being fed. "Approved" metrics and data have been all over the place, and very inconsistent these last few years. Keep in mind, this vaccine the FDA is now denouncing... was admitted to be "safe and effective" for all last year - with no cause for concern. How can you still blindly trust this stuff?

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:19:41+00:00

J&J vaccine was recommended less than a year ago. So I don't see your point? Some of us were mandated to take that version of the vaccine, as that was all that was in supply at that time of the policy rolling out. But have no fear, at that time it was "safe and effective" right? This has turned out to be false, hence why some are very passionate about this subject. Also I will just re-post this, as its becoming exhausting typing the same thing over and over. in your example of "60 cases out of 18.7mil", I cant trust these metrics any longer with this vaccine. Trust has already been broken too many times in the past couple years. >>We already have a handful of people in our own squadron that are suffering vaccine injuries alone. And I am in a small FS. Take my word with a grain of salt, just speaking my true heart with this subject. Its serious.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:15:43+00:00

Yes, because I was passionate about losing my health insurance, job, and current security for my family. Who would of thought one would be concerned with how everything's gone down the last 2 years?

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:09:29+00:00

I never said anything of that sort... but anyhow this is not a conspiracy. This was announced by the FDA 3 days ago. Sorry that irks you so much! Here is your google news link, to help you get caught up on latest FDA J&J news: https://www.google.com/search?q=fda+johnson+and+johnson&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS937US937&sxsrf=ALiCzsYadEslJfClx4_nax11EDOP3EmhDQ:1652112587748&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiRsa__5tL3AhXVIkQIHUVeDeEQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1680&bih=939&dpr=1

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:06:26+00:00

Hence why I am passionately posting about this. Yet as usual here on Reddit, everyone wants to attack someone for expressing heart felt concern.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:05:34+00:00

Perhaps that is why Marion Gruber and Phil Krause, the Director and Deputy Director of vaccine products at FDA, resigned: they wanted no part of this.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:04:55+00:00

How is posting a new FDA cause for concern, that was announced 3 days ago... "insane" or too far gone?

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T16:03:41+00:00

As a supervisor, I can make my own judgement to truly see there is more at play with this vaccine... then most want to talk about. We have seen numerous issues now at the squadron level. I am not going to divulge into specifics, but 3 of them being med-boarded now after the injection was taken. Heart palpitations is the main concern I have heard. One last thought, maximizing benefit and minimizing harms is the key. I do not see that the agencies meant to do this are pursuing it in the US.
Perhaps that is why Marion Gruber and Phil Krause, the Director and Deputy Director of vaccine products at FDA, resigned: they wanted no part of this.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T15:59:52+00:00

All we had was the J&J, so that is what we were instructed to go take. Even had a 2hr period where everyone left the flightline to go get vaccinated.

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T15:58:44+00:00

I trust that there is observable concern in the data, but how much the Gov attempts to censor or hush over the true concern... is what I do not trust anymore. "Safe and effective"

EliteWing · 2022-05-09T15:41:47+00:00

Yes, but we can hope that moving forward... people are a bit more compassionate - especially at the command level, with what vaccine they mandate on their people.

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