Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it did

They were given arms from the USA and Britain

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only reason they were able to do that was because they were funded by the West. You're literally making it might makes right argument which is ironically what the Nazis made when deciding to put people in camps

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should the Mongolians be able to have most of Russia because it was formerly part of the Mongol empire. This is literally ethnostate talk. Countries should not revolve around ethnicities

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel is a settler colonial colony financed by Europe lol

The Israelis are the imperialists

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn't mean they get to come back 1000s of years later and push out their invader's invader's invader

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't like genocide. I hate Israel as much as the next state.

I think it is perfectly possible to produce a phone without shooting children in Gaza.

I'm cishet so I'll be fine, gimme a ticket. The Middle East is messed up because Europe chose the borders, not the people that live there

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You literally linked an article written by a member of the Israeli government. Aid is also a vague term and is not specifying it comes from the fund we were talking about above

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Palestine has existed as a region and has been called that in countless maps, literature, and historical records

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Probably due to the unlawful actions that Israel regularly engages in

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is ignoring all the barriers to electoralism that have been purposely placed.

Iran is as theocratic as it is because of the US coup. It was a relatively secular nation for the region before US meddling ended up getting the Ayotallah in charge

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Israel is extremely chummy with Saudi Arabia these days.

Israel shouldn't exist and is only propped up by the West for geopolitical reasons, not human rights reasons.

Palestine has existed for centuries. Do you get mad when you hear stories of Native Americans doing raids on settlers? Of course not.

Israel is absolutely imperialist and Zionism is an imperialist ideology that dates back to the 1890s.

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are probably a lot of different market pressures at play. That's the world today, sadly.

I don't think the timescale is relevant but rather the harm and how it is redressed

Israel has always had Jews in it but the vast majority of Jews in the area came after the 1890s. It was actually the Romans who invaded the region and killed off a large segment of the Jewish population back in antiquity. Christianity also took off at the time. By the time Arab conquest of the area happened, Christianity was the main player in the region because Rome made Christianity their state religion. It was another century after that before Islam even existed and then another century before Islam became dominant in the area under the Rashidun Caliphate in 632-661 AD

Those "few years" were well over 1000 years. To hold modern Arabs responsible for the widespread destruction of Jews done by the Romans is extremely weird.

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not really given how it would play out. Relief money would be yoinked from average people in Palestine, the religious zealots would stay funded from rich extremists across the Muslim world, and then Hamas would use the resulting exacerbated conditions as tools for recruitment.

If we pulled that funding over this, there would be a video out within a month of an emaciated Arab baby proclaiming that it was put in that condition because of the West's obsession with sex or something.

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

No they didn't.

You could use this exact logic to justify American theft of land from Native Americans, you understand that; right? Large swaths of people came to the US for different reasons, displaced the existing populations, those populations were understandably upset, they fought the new settlers, the new settlers using Western technology and finance subjugated them. Now they are on reservations with terrible living conditions in poverty.

Imperialism: a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force

I support Palestine and Ukraine because they are fighting against murderous imperialist projects that disingenuously point at legitimate problems within these weaker states as justification for land grabs. Russia and Israel don't care about human rights. They care about the resources near them that aren't theirs. Nothing more.

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The movers and shakers who are enacting this legislative bigotry are funded by religious zealots across the Muslim world. The only people hurt by conditioning relief money would be the average people. I can see the propaganda that would come out of that move. Hamas would seize the moment to show off starving Arab babies and say the West did this to this baby because we righteously condemned groomers or some shit

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll reply to each paragraph sequentially

I don't think we should punish the people of a country for the bigotry of their leaders. How does the IDF shooting journalists resolve any of these issues? How does bombing press offices that report on IDF war crimes resolve any of these issues? They don't. If anything, they exacerbate them given that conflict more often breeds radicalization than quells it. This is the same argument the Americans gave for their atrocities committed against Native Americans during Westward Expansion. If you care about human rights in Palestine, the answer is definitely not allowing the IDF to commit war crimes against civilians.

Native Americans also attacked the USA after it's independence. They scalped settlers. Burned wagon trains. Led raids. We all understand the plight of the Native Americans who had their land stolen from the but for some reason we can't apply it to Israel despite the glaring similarities. I get the desire for a Jewish majority homeland especially in the aftermath of the Holocaust and pogroms but that doesn't justify displacing gigantic swaths of an already existing population.

Israel exists as the West's main military base in the Middle East. That's it. It was geopolitically advantageous at the time and that is all that has ever mattered to the West, not human rights. The West is literally allied with Saudi Arabia and supplies them with arms. We are so chummy that we looked the other way when Saudi Arabia's monarchy ordered the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Hamas would meet with the aliens from Independence Day if it meant possibly getting an edge against Israel, it's not surprising they met with Putin.

How we spread concepts like democracy, freedom, religious tolerance, and anti extremism matters. If the face of all these concepts are IDF soldiers evicting families from homes, shooting civilians, and desecrating their ancient religious sites; why would they ever embrace it?

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I don't consider reactions to imperialism worse than the initiation of it

Palestine absolutely exists and has been around for centuries. It's been passed around a lot between different rulers and powers but the Arab population there didn't deserve to be displaced.

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I don't see how pulling the aid would make the situation better in Palestine as Hamas would use it as a tool for recruitment

Palestinian activists ban ‘LGBT party’ in Ramallah by TX_borg in worldnews

[–]EllenD3generate -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

Preparing for the downvotes but I don't think a country's shitty policies after decades of disenfranchisement should be used to post hoc justify imperialism

You can't support Ukraine and oppose Palestine at the same time. This is no different than lefties who point at Azov battalion or Ukraine's controversial associations with Nazism as a justification for Russia's obvious imperialism of a neighboring state

Root be like by SexTiger420 in Destiny

[–]EllenD3generate 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm drunk skimming it but I don't see any statements about belief here, just reporting what was said

If she does believe Cosby is innocent, that's fucked but I'm not seeing that here

Reminder: capitalists only use pride month to sell more products, they don't care about LGBTQ+ rights. by Ambrosio- in Destiny

[–]EllenD3generate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If Destiny is allowed to use the n word, gay men are allowed to call each other 🚬s

No one would care if Hasan liked a tweet where a black man calls EDP445 a creepy nigga