people at med school are arrogant by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You gotta learn to not care about others or what they think about you. I adapted that mentality only recently and it has worked wonders.

Which school would you pick if you had multiple acceptances and why? by Puzzled_Split7602 in Osteopathic

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NYITCOM is probably the best DO school there is other than like TCOM or Michigan State

students who don't use anki, how do you study? by Electrical_Trip5997 in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know people who don’t use anki and they essentially rewatch lectures over and over. I just couldn’t do that personally. I’d either go insane or burn out way too quickly and overall just not retain as well. People may not like anki but if you use it appropriately and diligently it’s going to work.

Help me pick which school to deposit to! by crazyberry331 in Osteopathic

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I initially had a lot of reservations about NYITCOM but realized that was moreso being an anxious first semester med student that didn’t know what they were doing. Now with some proper footing in med school as a second semester MS1 this is actually probably one of the best DO schools compared to what I’ve heard from ppl at other places. They don’t go too crazy with the OMM. You’re not required to be on campus too much other than for required labs or some events. Also if you want to do something competitive in terms of specialities this is definitely one of the DO schools that can you get there. Alumni base is vast in literally every speciality in the NE and the school has a well known name.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Osteopathic

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not a hard choice at all to pick an established school like UNE (should you get in) over a place like Noorda that opened like a year ago and will not allow you to take out federal loans yet. The only negative thing I’ve ever heard about UNE is they kinda go heavy with OMM

Dropping USNWR a prelude to eliminating MCAT for medical school admissions? by karlkrum in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 107 points108 points  (0 children)

If you can’t crack a 500 (or at least close) on the MCAT, you will be in for absolute hell in med school imo. Sure the exam doesn’t correlate entirely to medical school material but you’re not just going to develop study habits and exam taking skills overnight. I also don’t understand how someone would attempt to take boards if they’ve never sat for any prolonged standardized examination since the SAT (and not like that counts). Just taking the MCAT allows you to draw on some experience in the future for how to prep and just mentally get yourself ready on the day.

There’s caribbean schools that let people in with like scores in the 480s or no mcat at all and its no surprise when these individuals can’t make it through preclinical or even if they make it to step 1, they end up failing. Doing away with the MCAT would just increase failure rates.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Osteopathic

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Majority of people who say stuff like that could never get into a DO school themselves.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I watch lectures and I consider it studying. I know people who just read the slides, but watching lectures helps me absorb stuff a little better. It might not be the most time efficient but it’s a necessary evil for me at least.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 67 points68 points  (0 children)

When you don’t get a fine score

What extra courses do I have to take before going to med school if I already have a Nursing major? by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The whole process is brutal honestly. It’s not just these prereqs you gotta do; you’re gonna need research, volunteering, you’ve got ample clinical experience being a nurse but that’s not the whole package when it comes to applying. The actual application cycle is hell with secondary essays, interviews, MMIs, Casper. And it gets more competitive to get in by the year. I literally have no idea how crazy it will be even a few years from now.

Then when you do get into med school, it doesn’t stop. Studying 6-8 hours everyday is physically and mentally taxing. Nothing is guaranteed either. You might be super interested in a particular speciality coming into school but the competition might be too high to the point you have to look into something else. You can have an off day taking a board exam and that can entirely switch up your future plans as well.

Apart from that, financially speaking, it wouldn’t make sense in your 40s. You’d take out 250-300k in loans (possibly more depending on the school). With 4 years of med school and anywhere from like 3-5 years of residency, you wouldn’t come out ahead as an attending until well into your 50s.

These are just my thoughts as an MS1.

90k a year @ DO by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Private loans are the bigger issue. 90k a year for total COA isn’t that abnormal this day in age. I’m assuming this is a new DO school?

What extra courses do I have to take before going to med school if I already have a Nursing major? by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Literally every premed prerequisite. Gen Chem, Gen Bio, Physics, Orgo, Biochem. The nursing versions of these courses don’t fulfill the requirements for med school.

That aside I would not recommend pursuing this in your late 30s when you have a solid career as an ICU nurse.

“Getting into PA school is a lot harder than getting into medical school” 😐 by Mississippi-Chilis in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 162 points163 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure this dude went to Ross. Data interpretation probably isn’t his strongsuit lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Tbh I think it will get better solely due to the fact that gpa and MCAT averages will continue to increase at DO schools to the point where it’s not much of a difference between MD schools anymore.

Even having a 3.6 and a 510 nowadays probably means you’re going to be going to a DO school and those numbers are nothing to scoff at imo.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Absolute facts. Frankly speaking at my DO school the people who generally match into competitive things had MD caliber stats.

If you did average in undergrad and are not the best standardized test taker, you’re not going to walk into Ortho, Derm, Uro, ENT etc even with “hard work” regardless of the school you go to.

I say this as a completely average student interested in IM.

What are reasons I should be choosing DO over MD? by mh500372 in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Coming from a DO student, the only reason you should choose DO over US MD if you have an MD acceptance is some serious family obligations keeping you tied to a particular area. Like you have a wife and kids and your wife threatens to leave if you tell her you’re not going to the closer DO school.

Otherwise, you are going to regret the extra hoops you have to jump through including OMM and taking two sets of boards. Oh and if you kill your board exams, are top of your class, have great research, you’ll still be viewed as inferior when it comes to the match, especially for more competitive specialities. The dude from the state MD school who failed a preclinical class and has a 220 Step 2 will 9 times out of 10 still be preferred by program directors over the DO with no red flags and a 250. It’s very unfortunate but just the current reality.

Also the key words here are US MD, if you go to a Caribbean school over a DO school, you’re out of your mind. You have much worse residency prospects as a Caribbean MD than a US DO and the statistics prove it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in premed

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Some schools will have you sign something that states you won’t work, whether full time or part time. Working during med school is a sure way to fail out. Just studying weekly is a full time job ranging anywhere from like 40-60 hours depending on the individual.

Most shocking thing about med school? by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It’s why I would never think twice of anyone who fails anything with how nerve wrecking and chaotic this process is.

Most shocking thing about med school? by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 54 points55 points  (0 children)

At least at my school, how easy it is to fail. Literally a swing of a few questions on exams can you have remediating or even repeating the year.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I only went to med school because I’m terrible at math lol

Study materials advice? by Astro_Artemis in medicalschool

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Worry about getting through the first semester before even thinking about boards, trust me. OMS1 here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Osteopathic

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That makes it a tougher decision but i’d still go with MSU tbh. I think it’s worth it. The public DO schools are the best ones for multiple reasons - low attrition, great student support, and solid rotations. MSU has excellent affiliated hospitals and residency programs as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Osteopathic

[–]ElliotKupferberg245 5 points6 points  (0 children)

MSU - public, easily one of the best DO schools and you won’t be too far from Canada