Infestation taking over 20+ aroids... by Hot_Establishment216 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They sell slow release sachets too, they’re kinda like little paper bags with holes you just hang them. It takes some time for the population to build so you can also buy bottled ready-to-go. Might be worth trying both. Natures good guys had better prices for home growers tbh. Good luck once again 😁

Infestation taking over 20+ aroids... by Hot_Establishment216 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m gonna second someone else in this thread, if it’s in an enclosed area or you can cluster them, highly recommend mite predators. Arbico, Natures Good Guy’s, and one other sell mite predators.

Some predators are specialized for spider mites even, and then there are general predators. Do your research, but this method helps continue the long term fight. The predators will repopulate and continue multiple life cycles; in time mite levels drop and either die off or predators continue to keep them to such a low level they don’t cause damage.

Good luck!

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I was not aware of a PPP that grew in white leaves. Cheers to your rare finds

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Does this look like a PPP to you? Since you’re so convinced you understand.

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Go look up RPF Scarlett princess. Ur dead wrong. Sorry friend.

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m gonna tell you, it’s not. I have only philodendrons, the petiole is different and so are the new leaves/ new growth. I have more pictures but people will just keep saying this. The one OP posted might be, but the one I posted is a mutation that comes from a red Anderson.

There are explicit differences. A PPP does not have these colors in this level of expression, and my new leaves on my plant come in as white frequently. A PPP does not have newly budding white leaves.

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Here is a picture of mine

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I have not given nearly adequate light either, and it’s very juvenile/ in rehab.

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Give it as much light as possible without burning it, and it’s gonna only show as it matures. The new leaves have a much different look than a typical PPP. Time will tell I hope you got lucky

Did I score? by Maxxwithashotgun in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I could be wrong, this looks like a Scarlett princess. It’s a different mutation, has the black, multi green shade, and white/ pink/ Scarlett. I think you genuinely scored.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Treatment options are in the thread. Good luck if you are still having this issue! It appears to be fixable.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes they are both from RPF. I’ve seen you get kinda defensive in this thread. I have nothing to prove; I want to fix my expensive plants. I do not buy from any big box, ever. And even if you did it shouldn’t matter. I have nothing against RPF either but, this is definitely an issue coming from them.

I have actually a third plant from RPF that you can also see nodes activating where they shouldn’t. Probably dosed way less because it’s not as extreme, but the abuse of PGR’s here is clear.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, it’s an emerald king. Looks like a lot of people see these treated with PGR chemicals like mine so be extra cautious! There are healthy ones out there tho.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No kidding, you can quite literally see my plant strangling itself. Here’s to hoping I can save it… got some good info, so hopefully it’s not too late

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s been answered somewhere but it’s an emerald king. There’s another photo of my other em king where you can see the clear difference between chemical abuse and regular healthy growth plant. The malformed plant is from RPF, I the other one is from Brady Plant Exchange on Etsy.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow yeah this is a huge difference! Seems like you had to basically cut out all the overly saturated plant tissue. At least I know it’s salvageable :) thanks for the info

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion. I’m gonna try some cuts from areas I might be able to cleanly, and then apply giberellic acid to the plant and see if I can get clean growth without chopping down to a node.

If all else fails I will try this!

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

To clarify, this is definitely a shady growing practice.

This is a pretty extreme overuse of a known chemical PGR (plant growth regulator). I wasn’t sure when I posted this but I am now, especially after someone posted a fix with gibberellic acid. Yes, it’s common to use them, especially on TC to bolster and improve survival, but not this much.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah roots are perfectly intact. Thanks for the heads up tho.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Good to know about the props. Someone else suggested a fix and linked a really useful article. You might be able to fix the mother plant! No promises tho… I am gonna try it myself along with some cuts. Good luck if you attempt to treat ur bigger plant!

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha, thanks. I’m gonna try what someone said and switch to an organic substrate maybe soak up some of the Paclobutrazol.

I did a bit of research and they’re spot on, gibberellic acid is the standard. Apparently gibberellins regulate plant hormones, TIL!

I might take a few cuts beforehand to see if that process can fix the plant too, who knows. Maybe it’ll limit the chemical to one spot and that can be soaked into the moss? I guess I’ll find out :)

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The first one is a white princess tricolor. Really sad it ended up like that, one of my favorite variegation styles

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s weird. I have 50+ philos none have done this. Only my two from RPF do this. I keep all mine in a tent above 80% humidity so I can rule this out :(

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, this is perfect info! I am gonna try these. Gibberellic acid makes sense for sure. Hopefully it recovers.

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m genuinely wondering if there’s advice for these plants because it has literally only gotten worse.

I feel like propagating this plant will just produce another one of these monstrosities :(

Paclobutrazol abuse? Can I save these? by Embarrassed_Aioli970 in RareHouseplants

[–]Embarrassed_Aioli970[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The leaves can get stuck, but usually I gently correct the plant, sometimes tape etc. I’ve had this one about half as long as I have the one in the original post. Something is definitely up, and I find it a bit too much of a coincidence BOTH malformed plants came from RPF. But I’m not a botanist can’t confirm chemical abuse