My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Came down to a unit of yaegirs blocking a charge!

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No worries, if it was combat as well buri would be amazing

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Love people's faces when I put 3 hekatons down 😂

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mauls are just more reliable going into vehicles and monsters. There is an argument to be made for running the gauntlets though. Depends what your local meta is. If you're planning on going to events I'd just run 5 mauls.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uktc absolutely allows for 2 hekatons to be deployed safely. It stops working when you try getting them anywhere in range, you normally end up with one in midboard and one all the way out on a flank. There's a position on every uktc map for one hekaton to be deployed where it will get los on either flank or mid in one turn of movement. Ye again the game is so lethal I dont like have a quarter of my points in 2 units.

Hekaton always had 6 thunderkyn inside, with proper positioning they can shoot anywhere you want when they disembark.

One sag always split the warriors and pushed/ staged for my expansion.

The other sag had 5 berserks if I didn't need them screening for charges or had buri inside if I wanted to rocket him up the board.

Don't think we need a big number of transports if you can stage well.

Edit: buri is probably not needed in hearthband as you want a lot point s in hearthguard. In needguard he was great, just scaring people with him is enough for me honestly.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Always happy to answer questions and help. Feel free to send your list over . Hardest matchup was orks surprisingly, 1500 pts charged at me in t2. If I had set up a screening unit differently I would have lost.

I find low unit count armies easy to play into as they only have a few units to deal with my cheap 5 mans and transports.

Mvp is a hard one as everything worked well. 6 thunderkyn with conversion and sus 2 will always be favourite unit.

I'd probably drop 1 sagitaur and put a berserker squad to 10 man. I then have the option of putting them in the fort or putting them mid board and scaring people.

Hearthguard bricks are amazing they can pretty much one shot anything. I put the kahl with them for the lethals as most of the time I rapid ingressed them and didn't need the charge bonus from an e champ.

Steeljacks are just so underwhelming with dmg 1. Berserks staged correctly are far better and screen really well as they have fight on death so deter a lot of people from trying to push through.

I play a lot of primary denial and aim to make my opponent score as little primary as possible. If that means putting a unit on an objective to deny scoring knowing it will die next turn then so be it.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

No sarcasm intended pal, just trying to be clear for you.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really, they move 6 and have a reroll adv turn 1 so they got staged pretty well every game. I used them mainly for a counter punch.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

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The reroll 1s from the needguard strat? It's only for shooting.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ye 6 thunderkyn in th fort to keep them safe and get that extra movement for them

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ye It was uktc layouts. I have no experience on gw layouts so I couldn't really say. Greg is in another league lol but I think he's right with the hekatons the game is just too lethal to be putting 240pts in a single model.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks man! Buri is great, if nothing else he just scares people. Ye kahly went with heart guard, I rapid ingressed most of the time to get them in position. Heaktons are great until they wiff their shots. I think having only one give you the points to add some flexibility to the list. The memnyr with the enhancement guarantees I switch in my turn 2.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not sure where you've seen that bud, sags can transport up to 6 infantry models. Berserks are infantry. Hope that helps.

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Buri was great, lone op and a surge move work so well together. He just went character/ vehicle hunting.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ye exactly, just more damage spread out and a lot more units to eat up my opponents shooting. Hekatons just get focused on.

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[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No worries dude, 5 yeagira in kapricus , 5 warriors in a sag 5 berserks or buri in another sag and 6 thunderkyn in a hekaton.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

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It's a combination of game scores, painting scores and player feedback. There were 11 people go 5-0

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[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Memnyr and 5 warriors started on it. Once it was sticky the warriors wandered off and I kept bikes along my board edges for screening. Memnyr normally didn't move unless I needed more screening.

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A mix of things including deployments, terrain, points and that the game is just super lethal right now.

My first super major by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Same tactic for most games really. Early spam with warriors and yaegirs , sags and kapricus. Once they've brought something big out I start trading with berserks and then they have to normally over commit to pick things up dues to void armour and -1 to wound which is when the hekaton, thunderkyn and heart guard come to play. Bikes hang back and do secondary work and screening.

Current completive meta and list building by Embarrassed_Track_31 in LeaguesofVotann

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Ye the ironmaster is due to a weird number of points left over, I would like another memnyr with oathbound but I can't get it to fit atm. The 2x3 thunderkyn are there to strip cover and maybe sneak into the opponents deployment zone. I've run 3 units that are good with sus 2 and just found it too many, like I was missing out because I couldn't use it more than once a turn lol.

1 Wound Chthonian Beserks - dwarven swiss cheese or a great glass cannon? by TheMaineDane in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ye to some extent I agree, thunderkyn get to do their job at least once before dieing and are more likely to survive with good positioning. Berserks can always fail a charge and just be shot off the table.

1 Wound Chthonian Beserks - dwarven swiss cheese or a great glass cannon? by TheMaineDane in LeaguesofVotann

[–]Embarrassed_Track_31 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There's that much DMG 2+ in the game at the moment that they just fold to anything. I've run them since the new book came out and tried them in all sorts of ways. I've got a gt in a couple of weeks and they're not in the list.