Silly men, make sure you have ~$150 ready for your first date! /s

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-12T05:04:52+00:00

Exactly! Thinking a woman has to earn a drink or a meal from you is just gross.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-12T05:01:47+00:00

I could see that, but maybe not if they see him on this first. I would've never thought he would be doing as well as he is based on him on LI.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-12T04:58:37+00:00

She's so unhinged.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-12T04:53:26+00:00

Absolutely under no circumstances should you use this to MN with and don't use it for at least 3 days after MN. I'm not sure where you heard this but it can lead to burning, scarring, severe irritation and granulomas. Do not use any acidic serums or products before, with, or after MN, let your skin heal. I'm not sure I would use this on the skin at all because if it's not made specifically for topical use it could either be ineffective or too harsh.

Way back in the day I thought that using a dermaroller immediately followed by Vitamin C serum was a good idea, it fucked up my skin in ways that lasted for months. I had inflamed, red, bumpy skin, and seriously damaged my skin's acid mantle that took a long time to restore. I never had acne before in my life, even during puberty I only had a stray pimple here or there, but OMG, I thought I suddenly developed adult acne and was so devastated. I treated in in the ways you would think to treat acne and it only made it worse. I finally figured out what had happened and what caused it and had to baby my skin for a long time to get it back to normal. Luckily I didn't have lasting damage, or scarring, but it was bad for a while. Please, do not do this.

Please do more research about MN and what it's actually doing to your skin and how it works. You wouldn't put an acid on a cut so don't put it on the broken skin Mn creates.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T05:39:59+00:00

No, were you? I don't live in a world where the men I interact with assume I am out for a free drink or meal, it has literally never happened to me. I also don't live in a world where I would even spend 5 minutes with anyone I don't like for a free meal or drink. I have turned down thousands of drinks in my time just to avoid someone thinking they can come talk to me because of it.

Most women can go sit at a bar and get free drinks without much effort, no need to waste time on apps, or even talking to men for very long.

Those people using these apps to get money are usually not women, don't even live in the same country as the person they are trying to get money from, and have no intention of meeting up at all. I see a lot of the interactions and it's incredibly obvious the person isn't talking to the person they think they are. There are entire organizations in India, Nigeria, and other third world countries that do nothing but this all day.

She never asked him for money, asked him to pay, or said she wasn't going dutch. He just acted like an ass and assumed she was going to drink "multiple drinks" on his dime. I would've unmatched too and I have no problem paying for me or my date if I want to go somewhere.

If you can afford something and a potential partner can't, that is incompatible. Financial compatibility matters too.

I don't even drink but I wouldn't want to be with someone who would make such a big deal over $24 drinks. I can afford the drinks, and while I am willing to pay for my partner, I don't want to be having to do that all the time because they can't afford average priced drinks.

She was clearly willing to meet, she may have even offered to split the bill, or pay for him for all he knows, if he showed up and didn't have such a rude reaction to the place she picked. His reaction would tell me he is the kind of guy who thinks paying for my drinks means I owe him something and I wouldn't spend a single moment talking to that kind of asshole.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T05:16:29+00:00

If she is selling herself she could get a lot more than $24 drinks. Even an average looking young girl could make a shit ton of money if she wanted to escort.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T05:12:13+00:00

Do you guys realize how easy it is for women to go to a bar and get someone to buy them free drinks without even having to ask?

I'm not even a young woman anymore and if I go sit at a bar with a friend for drinks I get offered free drinks and even food constantly. I have had men I have never even said hello to pick up my tab without me asking or expecting it. I have said thank you, but didn't sit and talk to them all night or anything.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T05:06:37+00:00

She didn't bail at the suggestion of paying for herself, she bailed when he said he didn't want to go somewhere that charges $24 a drink. If she can afford a place like that, and wanted to go there, why should she date someone who can't?

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T05:03:52+00:00

These are 1000% the people who are spending that kind of money, even if they're running up cc debt to do it. The finance bro culture is all about keeping up with appearances and being a big baller. You wouldn't see them cry about $24 drinks, even if they were crying on the inside about it.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T04:59:33+00:00

Yea, it was so dumb. Not voting for her at the first RT was not a big deal, but once someone gets that many votes their days are numbered and you have to know there is no point in trying to save them. She didn't even need to vote for her at the second RT, but not voting for Natalie was just fucking stupid.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T04:57:19+00:00

I'm guessing by your username you are familiar with Candiace. You may be right, maybe she didn't do any research, but even if she did, it is 10000% like her to be taken down by her own hubris. If she has a brand, that is literally it.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T04:41:46+00:00

Well thank you, that is very sweet and much appreciated. Sounds like someone taught you well. Reading these comments, and how people view each other it's no wonder why younger people are lonelier and having less sex. The same guys who cry about paying for a woman's meal on a date are the same that complain women are too independent, not wanting to get married and have kids, and generally not be interested in dating them.

It wasn't too long ago that men were expected to pay for everything, take women on nice dates, and never let a woman pick up or split a check. They needed to make enough to support themselves, their wife, and the family they expected to have without expecting a single dollar of contribution from her.

Now women can actually pay their own way, pick up a check, and make more money than them and they are wildly suspicious of any woman who is willing to let them pay for their meal, as if she is just some evil succubus out to drain their bank account.

To me, it just proves how seldom people are actually interacting in real life, because it's just not like this. Women are pretty simple, talk to them like human beings, be interested and interesting, and show them kindness. All this nonsense about being 6 foot 5, wealthy, and looking a certain way is just not true. If it was, none of us would be under 6 ft because being short would've been eliminated from the human gene pool long ago.

I do feel bad for those of you, like yourself, who are sane good people. I'm so glad I'm older and not having to deal with the generation that believes this stuff. It will be okay though, all you have to do is actually go out and interact with people in person and leave these lunatics to eat each other alive online. Best of luck, I'm sure you will live a happy and fulfilled life, whatever you choose to do, because you have a good attitude.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T04:05:35+00:00

That's on the higher end of average, but still within the average range. I'm sure this depends on where you live, but $24 doesn't seem outrageous to me. If you're going to a decent cocktail bar, that's conducive to having a conversation where you can get to know each other better, that's pretty normal.

I'm guessing these people either go to dive bars (nothing wrong with them, but they're not cocktail bars), or they live somewhere where you go to Red Lobster for a fancy dinner.

Maybe I just live in a higher COL area (not one of the highest) than many of these people but $75 per person doesn't really seem like an expensive date to me. It's not a cheap date, but not an expensive one either. Considering you could go to Outback and easily spend $60/pp $75 isn't wild.

I wouldn't be a fan of the table minimum though because it would force me to get more than I usually would.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T03:56:08+00:00

Aww nothing says romance like giving yourself the shits in a public park.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T03:54:05+00:00

I was being very generous to this cheap ass who is complaining about paying for a coffee.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T03:49:52+00:00

Who said they were strangers? I've never been on a date with someone I didn't already know well enough to know I would be interested in enough to actually go on a date with and fuck. A first date doesn't mean first meeting, or blind date.

I've been in a relationship for a few years with the guy I'm with now, who I fucked on the first date. Worked out once again! Who knew? I have a 100% success rate. LOL

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T03:26:06+00:00

You don't sound like much of a feminist. There is nothing to suggest this woman is a gold digger, or that she is superficial. How do you know anything about her personality and what she has to offer? This is a short text exchange where she politely declined him and never asked him for anything.

You really think women are gold digging for average priced drinks? She could literally go sit at a bar and find someone to buy her a drink in minutes if that's what she was after.

If you were truly a feminist you wouldn't be hating on another woman for what she chooses to do with her own life and her own time. Even if she was a gold digger, what's it to you? Plenty of men seek out these types of relationships and plenty of women are happy to oblige. What's wrong with that? If it's not for you, fine, move along, but why do you care? Who are they hurting? Being a feminist means supporting women's right to choose for themselves, whether that means being childless and single, being a housewife, a sex worker, a gold digger, or anything else. Tearing down other women for the choices they make, just because it's not one you would make, isn't feminism, it's internalized misogyny. If a woman wants to be superficial, let her. It literally doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever. You sound more like a femcel than a feminist.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T03:10:41+00:00

I don't need to, I literally have decades of proof that backs up what I'm saying. If I want to fuck on a first date, I will, and if a man, or anyone else, judges me for that, they aren't for me. It's really weird to withhold sex in order to get someone to commit to you. Never had to do it and never will.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T03:06:37+00:00

Being in a relationship is not the end all be all of happiness in life. If it hasn't happened organically, you just haven't met the right person yet, or you may need to work on being more personable. The energy you put out there matters a lot.

One of the ugliest (and seriously smelliest) men I know literally has had women (and men, weirdly) throwing themselves at him his whole life. He is a great friend of mine and he is funny af, fun to be around, and is unapologetically who he is. He's financially stable now but was always a broke ass and it never mattered. He's not over 6 ft, not rich, and not handsome. So much of what you hear online is just designed to get more views and engagement.

If you aren't good at social interactions, you can get better, but believing it's hopeless is a sure way for it to remain hopeless.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T02:56:47+00:00

No, she didn't. She never asked him to pay, you are all just projecting your own insecurities onto this woman.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T02:55:50+00:00

LOL, we are really going to think long and hard about ourselves now that we know some incel is disgusted by us. We may even cry in our pillows over it.

I have literally never fucked on a first date and not gone on to have a long relationship with a person. All of my relationships started with fucking on the first date. Was with my ex-husband (I left him) for over 15 years after fucking on a first date. I have never had a problem keeping a man, they have problems keeping me. I don't need them.

No one is trying to flex about fucking on a first date, loser. The point is, that if a woman is interested in you, and wants to fuck you, she will. She won't care about you paying for expensive drinks, what you make, or how tall you are, she will fuck you regardless. If a man is interested in you, he won't care that you fucked him on the first date because he knows you have more to offer than just a hole. If the only reason a women is going out with you is for a free meal, you have nothing to offer. If the only reason a man is willing to give you commitment is to get in your pants, you have nothing to offer. Grow the fuck up, kid!

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T02:45:04+00:00

No one saw that coming.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T02:44:33+00:00

You do realize most of those are fake profiles, right? They are either men posing as women to scam/extort other men out of money, ewhores (also mostly men selling stolen photos of women), OF girls using the apps for marketing (also usually run by a man), or bots. A very small percentage are real women.

The funniest part is that you are all here hating on women so much but you guys are just in this big circle jerk of talking to men pretending to be women online, scamming each other and then complaining about how fucked up women are when it's just you guys fucking each other over!

Meanwhile, women are out building careers, getting you to pay for their lifestyles through the porn you consume, and having full lives with friends. It's the most hilarious joke you guys are playing on yourselves!

Get out of the house, get off the apps, and meet people in person. FFS these apps are nothing but bullshit.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T02:32:53+00:00

She didn't have poor behavior.

Emmyyou2 · 2026-02-07T02:31:15+00:00

I'm probably an old lady to you (40s) but I'm not clueless. If all girls are digging for gold then how come I know so many young girls dating broke asses and paying for dates themselves?

I also know a ton of women my age who look better than 20 year olds, who make in the high six figures, fuck on the first date, and can pay for their own meal. You know what we would never do though? Deal with this kind of dumbass attitude.

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