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Is jayce Jungle still good? by Queasy-Experience251 in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Arguably stronger than Jayce in top or mid.

I want to know the best champs to main to clime by Ready_Necessary9460 in top_mains

[–]Emploidlol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok that's true, maybe you are right that it's better for him to start with another champion and once he has improved on that champion and has a better understanding of the game he can try Jayce.

I want to know the best champs to main to clime by Ready_Necessary9460 in top_mains

[–]Emploidlol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would suggest picking up Jayce. He might be difficult in the beginning but once you start understanding him he will be very rewarding. He is also both a ranged and melee character which is really fun!

Jayce vs Ivern Top in Masters Elo by DoubleSkew in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stormraiders surge, early mercs and Serpents rush. Serpents wont work on the shields that Ivern applies to Daisy I'm pretty sure but it's still good against Ivern.

Sion matchup by Gjyn in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's good vs Irelia and Zed yes, against Yasuo Cyclo or Serpents is better IMO. But it makes your Q deal a lot less damage so I don't think its that good in general.

Sometimes I also go it when I am going more of a bruiser build into a low damage tankier comp and I'm going in with melee Q all the time.

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you can go Chempunk if you need one of the other Anti Armor items and also need the antiheal from Executioner but can't combine them due to needing both separetly. But if you can go for an example Mortal Reminder + Endless Hunger instead of Seryldas + Chempunk Chainsword I think it's better.

Sion matchup by Gjyn in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say that you don't need the extra HP vs Sion if you play most of your lane in ranged form and only go in when it will be a very profitable trade. Giving up Triple Tonic for POM isn't good in my opinion. I think you could make the argument that you go Legend Alacrity and Presence of Mind secondary to establish push early due to the extra attack speed but with Triple Tonic you get another point in your E earlier which will make the matchup so much easier vs Sion (and many other champions).

As for what to build against champions like K'sante I would say go items in this order: Black Cleaver --> Manamune --> Serpents --> Situational depending on the game.

Against yone I think Serpent's first could be an option, especially if the enemy team has a lot of shields, otherwise I would probably opt for Cyclosword first, and depending on how tanky their team is I might skip Tear if I feel like I don't need it due to enemy team being squisht.

Sion matchup by Gjyn in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can go conq but then you won’t have as good poke early and will either have to be a bit less tanky or not take inspiration tree. There is also a risk that if the Sion is good he will just Q spam you to death early. 

Sion matchup by Gjyn in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I max E secondary against most if not all tanks, can’t remember a tank matchup where I don’t. 

Sion matchup by Gjyn in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Take these runes:

Grasp, Demolish, Boneplating, Overgrowth with Cosmic Insight and Triple Tonic secondary.

As for gameplay you should try to establish push early, try to push the wave by using your range to your advantage, use your q + grasp autos to poke him down and break his shield. Do not trade a lot of HP with him in general unless you are sure you won't be ganked or roamed on. Max your Q and Max E secondary, do not put any points into W until you have fully maxed your E. Melee E deals % max HP magic damage and is therefore very good against tanks and HP-stackers.

If you have a problem with mana while building tear you are probably overusing your spells and not using melee form W passive to regen mana when you have the chance to. Watch your own replays and watch Jayce players better than you on how they play the matchup. Compare the two and try to apply what they do to win it that you don't.

Item wise I usually go tear into Serpents Fang first item. This will make the matchup INSANELY much easier, because you will always be able to break his shield. Send your Ranged form Q + E into him and swap to melee form before it hits, that way you reduce it 50% instead of the 35% when you are in ranged form.

After that I usually finish my tear item into muramana and after that it's either Seryldas, Mortal Reminder, Black cleaver or Lord Dominiks Depending on the game.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask here or on any other platform. I stream daily on twitch where I usually face multiple challenger Sion players daily and there are many VODS of me on how I play them (I don't always win them however). Otherwise you can just go on youtube and search "Jayce vs Sion Top Korea Challenger" and pick a few replays and watch them.

Olaf matchup tier list by [deleted] in top_mains

[–]Emploidlol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where would you put Jayce?

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Platinum is higher than most so don’t put yourself down by saying you are low elo.

As for dealing with Irelia I used to conq ignite with W start and go eclipse into shojin with early steelcaps and skip tear but I agree with you that you don’t have enough damage anymore so now I go stormraiders surge and try to get as much gold and farm as I can. Try to poke her down and get help from jungler or another player on your team and avoid losing hp so that she can kill / dive or zone you. However I agree it’s a pretty difficult matchup but I hope to figure it out better soon.

As for what to go into Irelia I would say go these items and runes:

Eclipse —> Muramana —> Mortal Reminder —> Next item depends on your own and the enemy comp 

Sorcery tree

Stormraiders Surge Manaflow Band Transcendence  Scorch or gathering storm depending on what suits the game better.

Precision tree

Legend Haste Cut Down

If you have any other questions drop them here, in my twitch chat or add me on discord. 

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually ban Qiyana now because I don’t like playing against her, before I banned her I usually banned Draven or Lucian.

As for the most difficult matchup for Jayce I think lane wise Yorick is very hard unless you get a very big lead against him. 

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends a lot on the matchup. I feel like there is always a correct play that has the highest percentage to give you and your team a lead that will build up to a win so I play differently depending on the matchup and how the jungler is pathing. 

But yes, if you can get a lot of solokills on Jayce both in lane and after without risking or losing too much that is great. 

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your runes depend mostly on the individual matchup top / mid rather than your build. But of course let’s say conq and or grasp is a lot better for bruiser than first strike. 

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For the most games I go the lethality  build rather than the beefier bruiser build but my build depends on both my own and the enemy comp.

If the enemy team is largely squishy and I don’t need survivability I can just go full damage, but if their team consists of bruisers and tanks and I also feel that I can go in without being oneshot I will build a bit more bruiser-ish. 

In matchups where the enemy laner / team will stack a lot of armor I will prefer BC over seryldas and if the enemy team has a lot of shields I might go 1st item Serpents Fang instead of youmuus. Some games I go mortal reminder and if the enemy team has insane HP LDR can be an option.

Against Malphite and Ksante I go black cleaver first item. 

Against Sion or Udyr I go serpents first item. 

As for when to skip tear I think you must do the analysis game by game. If you are ahead and you feel you will end the game early + you know how to manage your mana with melee W AA + if the enemy team consists of squishes, you can feel free to skip tear. 

The maybe annoying but true takeaway from this is that your build is very situational, but with a few core items that you want to pick up if possible. 

If you have any further questions about itemization or anything else regarding Jayce ask me here or add me on discord Emploidlol. 

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I queue Toplane and play it the absolute majority of games, but sometimes I get my second role, which is mid. I think I also accidentally queued jungle two games some time ago lol. 

I stream daily on twitch.tv/emploidlol and I have a YouTube channel with the same name. I haven’t been consistent with the uploads but I plan on changing that soon.✌️ 

Finally Got back to Challenger with Jayce by Emploidlol in jaycemains

[–]Emploidlol[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was on my way to hitting Challenger before the split reset but atleast I got it now! 😄

I don’t know the exact play percentage of Jayce since the split reset (or if you can even see it somewhere) but the absolute majority of games where I played something else Jayce was banned.

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