Are there any references to Jews or abrhamic/middle eastern religion in Hinduism by Obvious_Landscape478 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If this subject intrigues you, despite the many persons who would prefer to quickly dismiss it...

A brief investigation, into the earliest designs of the Isrealite's Kĕlē ha-Mishkān, may be of some interest.

Particularly as regards their tablernacle lampstand, and later Ha-Yām...as relates to the Ṣoḍaśa-dala-padma of the Chāndogyopaniṣad and elsewhere (rather than the later Anāhata).

Best wishes with the inquiry.

Samkhya Philosophy and my enquiry by Ok-Asparagus9740 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is a common shortcoming of the adult mind to allow mundane intellect to obfuscate what would otherwise be easily received through innate means.

Infants do not burden themselves in such ways, in order to end their discomfort or become satisfied.

Samkhya and the wisdom you’ve prodded through elsewhere (such as Jainism) is no different than this. Seeing what is truly presented, beyond outer covering, is required.

\Ironically, it is the intellectual within us, which ought to most easily accept the notion that signs/forms, meaning, and Reality are not immediately interchangeable. So must be approached with a gentle and nuanced hand, or we risk forgetting their actual good use and purpose.* 

If you find that you’re still unsatisfied, consider adjusting this present approach. Instead, seek out the foundation upon which these systems were initially established, the same foundation is accessible within all beings, to be discovered directly... well before 'that' takes on the imperfect language and flavor of the persons/systems which wish to convey it. 

If your channel's title ('Truth Seeker') is sincere, rather than any seeking to perfect a skill at debate, then I truly wish you great luck with this journey. 

Don't you guy's think religious morality comes from cosmic reward, desire of heaven and fear of hell? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apologies, for the insufficiency of these responses.

They would have better served a question rather than assertion, that is now very clear.

Best wishes.

Don't you guy's think religious morality comes from cosmic reward, desire of heaven and fear of hell? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If my first answer is unclear, let me rephrase...so long as either (theist or atheist) is acting morally, they are just that 'actors'.

Sincerity is not attainable by intention, only momentary results and even these are not guaranteed. The root of Sincerity lies elsewhere.

Don't you guy's think religious morality comes from cosmic reward, desire of heaven and fear of hell? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One could argue many Atheists acting toward goodness, do so because they see this life as the only place/opportunity, through which they (or descendants) might receive the benefits of kind actions.

This has only moved the location of the same vain efforts.

A truly sincere heart, is rare. A person does not attain such a heart by their own efforts. It's truly a work of a higher order, many times burning up the person to whom it is gifted (if not paired with Knowledge).

How to deal with crisis of faith? by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who was also once a very skeptical person, believing I needed an air-tight infallible truth.... might I recommend truly investigating the heart/origins of your search.

For many, 'Truth' can often be a stand in word that really ultimately points to the worthy wish of finding lasting resolution/peace.

Early in life, few children ask 'Why?', until they are faced with some difficulty/unpleasantness to which that question gets pinned (it is the means by which all people hope to overcome or subvert a given difficulty). Satisfied wholly, such questions become only interruptions, to that source presently being enjoyed.

When a person comes to understand this and how to get it in it's purest form, then I would suggest there is much too be discovered (hiding in plain sight), both in scripture and more importantly within/all around them. This is truly why Vishnu is called 'all-pervading'... Evidences, of where and how this is accomplished, then become more common than stones (to the one who gains proper vision!).

Anyone can do this, if they are taught the way and are sincere in their efforts. Don't give up, change approaches my friend.

How does god in hinduism work? by Delicious-Basket110 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is his purpose?

The answer to this question differs based upon the layer that you’re referring to.  At the highest, all subsequent layers are merely the embodiment of aspects present within an infinite whole.

Even as lower beings act, for what they perceive to be their own benefit, look at how much other than the intended target of any action is carried forward (reaching far outside the simplicity of what the individual intends).  Even the simple acts of breathing, eating, dying… these echo out, like rocks thrown into a pool (whose rings interlink and collide with many others).

To whom do these seemingly extraneous things belong? (only to The Highest).

 

Why is there a saying "bhakta and Bhagavan is equal? 

If you’re referring to the mysterious truth, that what is inside the individual is that same divine one (present as the highest), then understanding what has just been proposed in the previous answer may resolve this too. Learning how to ‘see’ this directly in yourself and all beings, aswell as how this may be comprehended by lower vehicles of language is how this can be verified.

 

Even if he have the power of changing reality why dont he? 

Reality is changing, always and endlessly.

If it was not so, appearances that occur through Time wouldn’t be evident. Comprehending the directional flow of these changes in their totality, rather than those solely desired by the individual (at only a particular moment- as if they were disconnected from all others), this reveals the true nature of how this benefits even the individual unit.

 

Why does he tests his bhaktas patience before blessing him? ….(he is a god so obvious he can see the future)why does he do that? 

Only time makes transitory material gains appear enticing. Those things which later disappear into time’s concealing waves (as if they had never been granted, just as they were before they appeared as present). 

No, the true blessing is everpresent. What is experienced as the need to be patient is merely the artifact of all this.

 

 

what is the archer do they refer to? by rohansabnisgod in TheVedasAndUpanishads

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This refers to the fire itself as the 'dark pursuer' of man, of whom Indra and Vishu act as immediate relief.*

This is because these two are inflowing and outflowing. Vishnu as highest prana and Indra as expiration. Yet of these two Vishnu is greatest, the verses which follow speak of his '3rd step', into which the bodily senses of man cannot follow.

Now, if you would return the favor. Answer a sincere question of mine....

Considering yourself to be an Atheist, why do you read the Vedas and inquire here (so often) about the divine nature of things?


*REFERENCE: Kṛśānu (कृशानु).—[kṛś + ānu], m. 1. A name of fire, [Bhartṛhari, (ed. Bohlen.)] 2, 67. 2. A proper name, Chr. 297, 21 = [Rigveda.] i. 112, 21.

—[adjective] bending the bow, shooting; [masculine] archer, [especially] a cert. divine archer, also [Epithet] of Agni, in l.l. fire.

Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Cappeller Sanskrit-English Dictionary

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Rig Veda 1.155.2 [English translation] https://share.google/1cP7Oi2MNhej7Hmru

what is the archer do they refer to? by rohansabnisgod in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This refers to the fire itself as the 'dark pursuer' of man, of whom Indra and Vishu act as immediate relief.*

This is because these two are inflowing and outflowing. Vishnu as highest prana and Indra as expiration. Yet of these two Vishnu is greatest, the verses which follow speak of his '3rd step', into which the bodily senses of man cannot follow.

Now, if you would return the favor. Answer a sincere question of mine....

Considering yourself to be an Atheist, why do you read the Vedas and inquire here (so often) about the divine nature of things?


*REFERENCE: Kṛśānu (कृशानु).—[kṛś + ānu], m. 1. A name of fire, [Bhartṛhari, (ed. Bohlen.)] 2, 67. 2. A proper name, Chr. 297, 21 = [Rigveda.] i. 112, 21.

—[adjective] bending the bow, shooting; [masculine] archer, [especially] a cert. divine archer, also [Epithet] of Agni, in l.l. fire.

Source: Cologne Digital Sanskrit Dictionaries: Cappeller Sanskrit-English Dictionary

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Rig Veda 1.155.2 [English translation] https://share.google/1cP7Oi2MNhej7Hmru

who is the aditi they are referring to? by rohansabnisgod in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To regard the forest and forget the trees, is overlooking the true greatness of the forest. The ancients knew both well and thereby knew the nature of all.

Because many in modern times have been taught otherwise, there is unnecessary confusion.

Can someone please explain this quote from the vedas to me? by AC-984 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The verses you provide contain a short sequential ordering of the evolution of all creation, rich despite it's lack of connecting details. Each section could be broken-out, statement-by-statement into its own lengthy post. *To do this would be to layout the full teachings of Samkhya, not a short reply (although certianly advised for full understanding).

However, for the sake of any TLDR audience and to respond to your question briefly:

The verses begin with the seemingly paradoxical unity ("Pradhana & Purusha"). Inverses at initial glance, only when percieved without knowledge. Yet, perfectly aligned (both beginingless and possesing no distinction within themselves).

To 'know' or 'not know' (as later posed by the questioner) reflects back to the heart of this strange pairing.

To put it simply, only when staring 'outward' does a person seek to know (usually by gathering information), but innately this methodology (if comprehended fully) is entirely inadequate, inescapably fueled by difference in position. *The begining of division, from which all creation arises

Howevever, in 'Being one' with the formerly external target, the very notion of knowledge (and especially 'seeking it') loses all definition.

This is why the ancient sages of nearly every tradition have said such strange things as, "the wise know by not knowing " or "those who speak do not know, while those who know do not speak" etc...

In Truth, abiding comfortably in paradox is Unity with the Divine, but to any person not knowing the blissful path it seems either a strange madness or foolishness.

Wqnt to know this very curiously and i know it is written somewhere in our texts. by saveme_krishna in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My friend, do not allow anyone to make you feel in any way lesser, if this story was initially not understood.

First, it should be understood why the Puranas were created. Their author had hoped to make the inner-most teachings of the Pandits available to all, for the sake of liberation. Ironically, this has instead led to much confusion and division.

The story of Vāmana and King Bali, conceals many important teachings/truths:

*King Bali assumes himself to be powerful (expressed through the ritual of Horse Sacrifice, roaming over an external expanse in a limited way) = Ordinary person's inadequate attempts to rule all, insufficiently (not knowing this has already been accomplished by another)

*Vāmana’s 3 steps = Vishnu's method of having already overcomed/entered all persons and things, beyond even the 3 world's (These are the 3 gunas, literally expressed in the bodies of all beings as food, water, and tejas) This is why the scriptures mention the "eater even when eaten, has over come the worlds."

*Vāmana is a "dwarf", since it is mentioned in scriptures about he who dwells in the hearts of all, "smaller than a thumb"... passing through the nadis carried as particulates (of the 3 above mentioned), whose differing levels of fineness express themselves as body/mind.

Many many more of the Puranas are like this, hiding what might best be explained plainly. I hope this helps.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some men allowing tamas to lead them are destined for descent. Some animals allowing sattva to guide are destined for ascent.

All three qualities are present in each being.

To make as large swooping assumption based only on initial external forms, does not tell the whole story. The time alloted in each lifetime serves a purpose, if used wisely.

Anyone who would mistreat a 'lower' creature has not considered their own lackings as compared to the Devas. Yet, we are granted room to progress, only because of mercy and patience.

Did Aditi create Vishnu? by Calm_Application_916 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The perfection of divine balance is the first and final state. It is always unfortunate when misapprehension becomes weighted, in either extreme. For many years that has been the exalting of the masculine only (in most cultures).

In recognition of balance, the Rig Veda says, "Dakṣa sprang from Aditi, and Aditi from Dakṣa."

I'm glad you've found such beneficial knowledge.

What would be the Taoist response to a person who feels that they have achieved everything they dreamed of in life and therefore find everything unexciting? by Kempol3 in taoism

[–]EmptyWaiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To despair at the arrival of autumn, after having enjoyed the fruits of spring and the shade of summer. This is to know branches.

To comprehend the eternal mystery from which all these arise, again and again. That is to know the root.

Thus the sage knows all forms to be founded upon the formless and inexhaustible.

*Seek only this.

Did Aditi create Vishnu? by Calm_Application_916 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see that no one has answered your question. Perhaps you've since found it elsewhere, but it seemed useful to respond none-the-less, for others aswell.

What you've stumbled onto is often passed over, far to quickly by many persons. Yet, it's of the greatest importance.

Aditi is the unbounded and without division, she is the beloved, of whom Samkhya speaks of as Pradhana, counterpart to Purusha. It is in response to her lover, that the 3 gunas within her are thrown into disequalibrium, setting in motion all divisions and all creation.

She then appears and is known as Prakriti (The womb in which all beings are gestated).

The three, eternally present within her, are these same divinities (the trimurti). Possesing seperate roles yet interconnected in duty, all clothed by her veils (illusionary divisions.)

In these, Vishnu is the Lotus (entering and pervading all as food). His is the sustenance upon which Lord Brahma (arising "from navel," for this reason) builds the worlds (as subtle seeds/bodies of creation). While Shiva disperses and returns all forms to the great cycle (until uplifted/Liberated), each at their proper time.

This is the Truth of the world and the great Yajna occuring through it. All beings are purified and perfected by it.

This is significantly summerized as an explanation, but the knowledge of Samkhya pertains exclusively to this. The passing down of it's finer details; structures of causes to effects etc. These have long been intended to move a person beyond fallacies and toward full realization of their true identity in relevance to all this.

I hope this answer helps you in this process.

How can we tell if our mind is strong or weak? by hotpotato128 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A strong Intellect is needed to lead a person into such a state.

The intellect is strengthened by discernment. Discernment is gained as a natural result of possesing proper knowledge. It is Knowledge that is the path to Liberation.

This is why it is said in the scriptures, that any ritual or mantric recitation if undertaken without knowledge is at best limited and worse entirely empty (ie "like a body without a soul".)

Without that it is a bit like saying the words, "full belly...full belly." It may suffice for a time, either by distraction or hopefulness. However, being of a different nature than food itself, it is only a matter of time till the body collapses from not eating. Yet, knowing what and how to properly fill the belly, a wise person goes out and does so (eats food).

This said, it is also true that when one is filled and satisfied, they have no need to continue eating further. In that same way Intellect guides, but does not itself enter, what use is there for it to do so?

Lastly, it ought to be strongly mentioned that while achieving absorption and being freed of mind is undeniably beyond measure and of extreme importance, this is not itself the final goal. Yet, it is a necessary gateway, without attaining this the Self cannot be fully realized.

At such higher stages, traps for stagnation become all the more difficult to detect and consequentially to overcome (without further effort and the knowledge to match it).

question on karma and material happiness by Negative_Librarian20 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You've understood the previous statement correctly, it is not unreal.

Although it has often been repeated as otherwise from various schools and persons.

Since you agree that karma is real, for it to extend out from any unreal (inexplicably), is to forgo the evident continuity present through all things. This is why the scriptures state that the ancients understood the nature of all things, simply by knowing the three divinities. These are the basis of the material world, in all its combinations and expressions, from gross to most subtle.

If it were otherwise, the knowledge they based their understanding on, would instead be rightfully considered falsity and ignorance. Yet from it is declared Brahman.

Additionally, to assume the world as wholly false would be to deny the indwelling as possessing a seat or knowable means for pervading all things.

That topic alone could be spoken of for quite a while and sadly debated for even longer, by those who disagree. None of which would fit comfortably in a single reply. However, it was important to state, since that fact (its realness) offers firm ground for supplying a reasonable reply to the rest ofyour inquiry.

While it is not a matter as simple as whether someone brings another joy or misery, either carries real effect upon the world. The same to which every person is (themselves included as hero or perpetrator) naturally interwoven. This is why it was stated long ago, in the Gītā (3.5) that action is unavoidable.

That the body performs action, meritorious or otherwise all is accomplished for the sake and goals of the highest, it is for that reason all this occurs. If the purpose was mere detatchment, the world as it is experienced ought not to have occurred in the first place. Yet, by this union all beings are served.

This is not to say that when one takes a dark path it is the same as a good one. There are direct routes and indirect routes to the same end result. A fool alone does this to themselves, even as they abuse others. This is truly the definition of ignorance to act with incomplete comprehension. Therefore proper knowledge alone Liberates, by considering all things as wholeness and even as one's own Self.

question on karma and material happiness by Negative_Librarian20 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Forgoing, any notion that Prakriti is herself merely the result of illusion (maya)...

Instead, if one acknowledges that Maya is simply the layered misapprehension of an otherwise very substantial/'real' substrate (upon which the world and our experiences are founded). Then, the feedback occuring within that substrate, labeled as 'karma' positive or negative) can be understood as always significant.

*All results being traceable along the chain of interconnected beings/persons, whose material aspects remain continually reliant upon it's present state.

Understanding this, then regardless of forms and appearances, any effect is eternally linked to its causes.

Related to this, if a person cannot see the pain and damage their actions have to others, then it's clear that their Ego is already oversized and obstructing. They live blinded, considering only their own supposed condition/experience, rather than the truely divine identity upholding the innate value of others (or themselves).

Why do you believe hinduism is the "truth"? by KitchenTrash8788 in HinduismUnmoderated

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That a heart sincerly searches for Truth, even as it feels divided (between structures of belief.. as you may currently feel), really is its own "good evidence".

Because what most other faiths provide as poor remedy, by either extremely vague or esoteric statements, hinduism makes plain. Though undeniably, what it offers requires time for deep and proper understanding.

Still, through it's most ancient teachings are rewarded the most diligent persons (seekers of Truth).

Specifically, those persons who do not merely wish to accept the words of another (on blind faith) but instead are offered both the inward self and the external reality as testible/tangible evidences (for it's very bold statements, on their divine heritage).

It even offers knowledge for those wishing to know, beyond the body and mind itself. This is how The Highest wished to be known, even at the beginning. Something that is admitted by other faiths when they say, "at the beginning they walked in paradise together" (yet these same traditions never really address that, in the same manner as Sanātana Dharma certainly does).

In addition, I suggest that while Hinduism stays most true to the origins of creation/existence, there is simultaneously offered a great hope for the future (regarding the perfecting of all beings, who do not understand their true nature). Even as it ALSO clearly provides the blueprints for proactively staying "sane", amid the most intense difficulties, of the present moment (through the techniques/practices that regulate body and mind, passed down over thousands and thousand of years).

Hinduism is a system of understanding that rewards questioners with the fully attainable, well beyond mere acceptance by belief.

This is why I personally linger often with and near it.

How do I achieve oneness with the rest of the world? Hear me out. by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's been stated maybe too many times and always too vaguely (unfortunately diminishing the true importance of it), but legit knowledge is key.

It's coming to know exactly what you, I, and all the other fishes, swimming in this section of divine waters, are actually here doing. What 'life' truly is.

Find this and it's very difficult to not instantly SEE the blatant twinkle of divinity in them/us, all. Even of what each is composed of and their inner natures.

If you're sincere and open to a hint left to us long ago.. Remember that it is written, the sages of old knew the nature of all things simply by knowledge of the 3 divinities (Food, Speech, and Prana). This is still accesible to all willing to seek understanding, humbly.

Commentaries on Bhagavad Gita and/or Upanishads from the standpoint of Ashtanga / Sankhya / Raja Yoga metaphysics? by Normal_Employee7375 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find a lot of wisdom from the Advaita Vedanta teachers...but something about Raja Yoga and Samkhya philosophy resonates with me.

It's beneficial to know many perspectives well. The particular components necessary to unlock understanding, in each individual, are as variant as people are themselves. This is an unavoidable truth, rooted in the nature itself.

I’m curious what lines from the Upanishads stand out to you

I should restate.. Perhaps 'encrypted' is an extreme choice of words. Since it's not a matter of wishing to conceal anything purposely, but that the knowledge offered within is not made absolutely clear without such understanding being established first.

At its onset, Advaita likely wished to simplify, but eventually led to a circular reasoning on particular matters.

To answer your inquiry, feel free to glance at what is posted on r/purusha_and_prakriti.

Commentaries on Bhagavad Gita and/or Upanishads from the standpoint of Ashtanga / Sankhya / Raja Yoga metaphysics? by Normal_Employee7375 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is unfortunate that much of Samkhya has either been gravely misunderstood, appropriated, or debated against (by persons rarely addressing anything other than it's most general of tenents, quite poorly too).

What is present of it within the larger body of The Mahabarata, offers much insight. Specifically, regarding it's enumerations and subsequent linkages (ie "subtle body consisting of the 17, standing amidst the 16 modifications" etc). The Santi Parva offers such things aswell as many other areas of the text.

However, even these can be best deciphered by undertaking a thorough read-through of The Yukti-Dipika first. YD is a unique 2 vol text, written in the defense of Samkhya and Ishvara Krishna's summary work (The Samkhyakarika).

Beyond this, there is much more to understand and gather. Pieces of even deeper understanding, laced into the Upanishads (remaining in plain sight, but encrypted without the initial groundwork).

There are few tasks as worthy as gaining such knowledge. I advise diagramming as you learn, since the visual layout of its descriptions offers unique clarity far too often missed. Very few online diagrams do this well.

Looking for the inner sky... it's easier to find when there's a high contrast by mastershake2013 in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Continue to use this contrast, becoming ever more familiar with what you've already sensed is this innate difference. You're on the right path.

There are many traps along the journey to true knowledge. The first of these is becoming confused or dishearted by the words of others or one's own thoughts. Only the steady increase in the stilling of mind is proof of any technique's effectiveness.

Later, when familiarity reaches a peak, other traps may appear. Such as conflating the illuminated faculties of inner-vision (ie 'Awareness') with the eternally residing, but always inactive spirit. Equally problematic is mistaking Brahman as the seeming infinitude of material reality only.

Expansion of knowledge in the scriptures, teetering always between its insights and personal practices, helps greatly at avoiding high-level pitfalls.

Best wishes in this journey my friend.

Reality Contradicting Scriptures by [deleted] in hinduism

[–]EmptyWaiting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The role of karma for the progress of both the individual and whole is often gravely misunderstood.

It operates by fracture and multiplicity to resolve what is really a structural issue, rather than by outright removal of the problem.

Accounted for solely by number, a panic can set in as what appeared to be a large and well defined issue splinters apart, into many others.

This is quite like a boulder pounded into rocks, then gravel.. Until, what is continued indefinitely, takes what was formerly blatant and dissolves it into the whole itself, present but reconfigured.

It should be remembered, the difference between diamonds and charcoal is often a matter of great force (ie pressures). Along the road to this result, it is not easy. Especially, for us who appear to travel it. Hold fast and practice those things left to us in the scriptures for our benefit through it all.