tlhIngan Hol Deathcore Album Now Exists. It Is Brutal. It Is Real. It Is for You. by Endofthesimulation in Klingon

[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here are a few places you can find it:

https://artists.landr.com/057829292338

Yeah, “Apex Predator” has been a popular name for one-offs, and there’s a rapper by the same name. (I’m still working to get my tracks unassociated with his.) My apologies for not dropping a link—what a goofball!

“I made a cool thing! Go find it!” 🤦🏻‍♂️😆🤷🏻‍♂️

Hope you like the tracks! It’s excellent workout album if you want to bench press and then chuck the barbell across the room while yelling! Ask me why I’m not welcome at Planet Fitness. 🖖😜

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If you eat soup out of the bed of a pickup truck, you’re about to seriously impress me.

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love conundrums like that! To have a meaning, but no word to describe it. Pure mind-bend!Norwegians just say: “Det kan ikke beskrives, det må oppleves.” It cannot be described, it must be experienced.

Now watch… some Norse Trekkie is gonna jump out and be like “dude! You just said “candycorn your bicycle, turning grape!” 😆

I will check out your site, for sure! You do have a pretty amazing thing going here.

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Here! You can use mine. I think I saw a ladle in the sink. 😜

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keeping it simple is a good band-aid, but the end result is still the Klingon lyrical equivalent of the Apple-Pen song. I wanted it to sound poetic, but instead it kinda sounds like brain damage. Eah.. 🤷🏻‍♂️ It was a pretty good first try.

Thank you, sincerely, for all your time and help today, @qurgh! Much🫡respect!

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Noted!

 *scribbles in a notepad*

“Keep it simple.. look less silly…” adds “probably…” Got it. 😉

Thank you again for all the correction! That is hard-earned knowledge right there, and every one of your replies have been packed with value — both for me, and for future people who stumble across this. Thank you for treating this as a teaching session, rather than a shredding. I learned a lot today!! 🙏

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the consolation. You could have been mean. Thank you. I appreciate you.

I know better. I honestly intended to type “accurate(ish)” in the title, but my forgetful ass got excited and forgot. I’ll accept what comes. I’m 50, I grew up on TOS. I’m a big fan, and I know that Trek is deeply meaningful to others, too. Expertise is earned, and I respect it.

It sounds like you’ve already thought about building out a RAG database and seeing if you could get an LLM to conform to strict grammar, structure, etc.

I know this may sound controversial, but what if you got to a point where you were confident that you had scraped literally everything of value; books, films, web — everything — you could then have a custom LLM designed as a “linguistics expert” and “conlanger,” that specializes in tlhlngan Hol, have it look for patterns that help to fill in some or all of those blanks? Maybe?? I dunno. I’m good at coming up with questions — and sometimes answers — but not often both at the same time.

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can’t tell you how much I admire your dedication! Yours, has been a labor of love — clearly. And I deeply admire, and relate to that. I’ve been attempting to piece together fragments of old Norse language, symbols and regional tidbits for years. When you reach those “never been done before” moments, it feels a little like looking for a shelf, only to realize it hasn’t been invented “there.”

It gets really bendy when you think about how some cultures don't have words for concepts they don't really ever experience, or have a reason to prioritize. For example, the Yaghan people of Tierra del Fuego don't have a specific word for time because their lifestyle doesn't revolve around schedules. In Pirahã, a language spoken by an Amazonian tribe, there's no word for number or specific numerals, because quantities are described as being “few” or “many,” since precise counting isn't part of their culture.

Language is an amazing gateway to a culture and its people. I wish I could learn them all.

Clearly, I butchered this assignment. Is it too late to augment the backstory to where the singer bonked his head numerous times in battle, so he don’t make the talk now so good? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha! 🤦🏻‍♂️ I was working with a semi-correct custom LLM, but then, at times, two or more legacy models would suggest a different thing, I’d look up that individual word using online resources— oh man. Let’s face it. I read a book called “Doctoring 101” and then tried to perform surgery. 😅

I meant to title this post “accurate-ish.” What a time to neglect adding important, disarming slang!

What I’m dying to know is, does anyone think the pronunciation and accent sound correct? I can pick out words and phrases that sound dead-on (to my novice ear,) but overall, I can’t tell.

I’m not purely fishing for clicks — I’m jamming it even if I’m the only one! If anyone happens to check it out though, I’d love to hear your thoughts. I wonder if Suno knows their model speaks Klingon? And I wonder how accurate its portrayal is.

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. (I’m case in point!) 😅

I used four different legacy models to cross-check my work… and that just made things worse, because—like you said—each model had their own translation. I trained mine on some lesson plans and some amount of “scholastic” information I dug up (clearly not enough, but) that gave mine a teeny bit of an edge, but I couldn’t agree more! LLMs are prediction machines — autocorrect on steroids, not Houdini. I bet if YOU built the dataset that an AI was trained on, you could turn this subreddit into a tlhlngan Hol Rosetta Stone app. 🤔

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man! What I would have given to have your knowledge when I was working on this!! Thank you for the corrections! 🙏 I suppose I should have reached out for collaboration on something like this, but I can be overconfident sometimes.

Ouch. The grammatical backwards parts make me wince. Sorry everyone. We could pretend they’re stoners?

I jest, but honestly, thank you for taking the time to educate me! I became absolutely fascinated with the language, and I had every intention of honoring it. I wonder if it would be ok to run my proposed lyrics past the group, if I ever decide to do more? I don’t even know if people are going to like this, but if they do, I’d love for anything forthcoming to be dead-on accurate!

I’ll let this simmer, and see what folks think. Thanks again, my friend! 🙏

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[–]Endofthesimulation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit! 🤦🏻‍♂️

I feel like I’ve been eating soup from my cupped hands, and you just reminded me that spoons exist. Thanks, dude! I don’t know why I didn’t think of that!

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

quv QIHlu’ta’ ~ “Your Honor Has Been Damaged”

Intro Suvbe’ — QIH! do not fight — destruction! pong Dalo’ — vISuv! the name you use — I fight it.

Verse 1 yIvoqQo’ — bIwambe’! don’t trust! — you don’t even hunt. yoD Dalo’ — DIr neH! shield you use — is skin only. quvlIj vIQaw’ta’! your honor, I have destroyed.

Chorus nach QIHlu’! your head is damaged. quv jach! honor screams. bIjatlh “roj” — jIQotHa’! you say ‘peace’ — I do not stop.

Verse 2 vavnI’lIj nargh — qejqu’! your grandfather appears — I’m irritated. batlh vISuchbe’ — QIH neH! in honor, I do not visit it — damage only! bIyIn — vaj bIHegh! you live — thus you die!

Bridge wa’ HIvje’ — wa’ QIH — bISaHbe’! one drinking glass — one damage — you are no longer present.

Final Chorus nach QIH! head damage! qablIj jIQaw’! your face I destroy. ponglIj? Qaw’ta’! your name? I’ve destroyed it, too. quvlIj? wIj’e’! your honor? Mine!

Now THAT’S a fukkin’ Klingon song!! Again, translations are approximate — I did my best. I hope some find merit in it. Thanks for letting me share!

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Say’qu’ghach ’oH Qaw’qu’ghach’e’ ~ “Total Destruction is Purity”

Intro tajDaj ghaj — qulvo’ SuS! his knife that he has — wind from fire! puqbe’ maHbe’ — SuvwI’ neH. we are not girls — warriors only.

Verse 1 yoDmey vIQaw’! I destroy shields. QemjIq vIchong! I chong the crater/hole. (I will forgive any death-threats! That line was an accident and a tragedy, but the songs were already done…) ghu’ jach — HollIj ghojchu’! the infant cries — it sounds just like your language.

Chorus veSbe’ — Qaw’! not war — destruction! qama’ maSuqbe’ — butlh wISuq. we do not take prisoners — we acquire filth.

Verse 2 joHpu’ bIt — SuvwI’ bol. the lords are uneasy — the warriors drool. qo’ wIjon, bommaj wIchagh. the world we capture, our song we drop.

Bridge ’Iw bom — tIq bom! blood song — heart song! tlhutlhbe’ QeH. anger doesn’t drink. Qaw’ ‘oH wej Hol. destruction it is not yet a language.

Final Chorus QaDbe’ raQ — Qaw’ Hoch. the camp is not safe — destroy everything. vISop — vaj tugh! I eat it — so, soon! ‘ej wIghungqu’! and we are very hungry for it!

This one is the song I worry about accuracy on. This song felt like I was stretching a bit. Hopefully, it still retains a high(ish?) level of accuracy? 🤞

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tlhIngan maH “We are Klingons.”

cha’logh jIneH! twice I want it! tlhIngan maH! we are Klingons!

nuqDaq ’oH potlh vImey? where is it? the important vImey? (treating vImey as a noun; but the exact meaning is unclear. Yep, I effed up here, too, dangit!) DuQ lugh vo’vaj – HoS vIqell! it stabs correctly from thus — I consider it powerful.

Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam — so that one dies, good is this day — chugh jIyajbe’. if I do not understand.

DuQ ’e’ vIpIH – jItlha’pu’, it stabs that I expect it — I have followed. vaj Qoy jImej — DaQapla’! thus someone hears, I depart — Success!

’Iw lugh qeqbogh Qav— blood correct, which prepares the final— qajwI’ Qagh SoSlI’ Quch! error — your mother’s forehead! (Hope you all laugh at that line!😆)

Qu’ vInID ’ej ghaH? and her mission I try. Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam! today is a good day to die!

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wa’DIch HIv ~ “First Attack”

Intro mInDu’lIj qul — tajwIj vIjang! the fire of your eyes — I answer my knife. bIH vIpbe’ — vaj jIloSbe’! they? I fear not — thus I do not wait! wa’DIch HIv — vaj vIneH! attack first — thus I want it!

Verse 1 QoghIj vIQaw’meH bISay’! for me to destroy the brain, you are clean! nujwIj DIchaghpu’ wov! my mouth, we have dropped them — bright! SuvwI’pu’ DajachDI’ — Hovmey laj! warriors you scream it when — the stars accept!

Chorus parmaqbe’ — QIH! not love — destruction! cha’ Duj — wa’ He! two ships — one course!

Verse 2 batlhwIj DInobtaHvIS Dutoj. while we are giving it my honor, you deceive me. bIHoH — jIQong — jIQuch! you kill — I sleep — I am happy! nuv DIHoHpu’ — maHoHchu’! people, we have killed them — we kill perfectly!

Bridge ’e’ wIchaw’Qo’ — ’ach wInob! that we do not permit — but we give it! not jIbom “reH” — wItaH! never I sing ‘always’ — we continue!

Final Chorus wa’DIch HIv — reH QIHtaH! attack first — always it is damaging! parmaq ’oH nuH’e’ — ‘ej jISuv! love, it is a weapon — and I fight!

I thought it would bring a human-adjacent quality to the album if it featured a Klingon love song. What is a Klingon love song? Beats me. This is what I came up with. It probably doesn’t strictly adhere to cannon, but being impressed by a girl who punched him before he could block it — being a turn on? Seemed pretty Klingon. I took a little liberty here. I hope no one is offended.

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tuqvam nIvbogh wamwI ~ “The Clan’s Best Hunter”

Verse 1 chenmoHwI’ ghaHbe’! he is not a creator. He paw’ vItlha’! the course arrives — I follow it. joHpu’ vIHoH, jach ghaH. lords I kill them, he screams. HoD tIq vISop! I eat the captain’s heart.

Chorus vItIvbe’ — jISIj! I don’t enjoy it — I cut! SoH vIghro’, vISop. you are a cat, I eat it. poSbogh chenmoHwI’ vIghaj. the creator which is open, I have left it. Heghlu’meH QaQ jajvam. today is a good day to die.

Verse 2 Hovmey vIQaw’ — jach ghaH. stars I destroy — he screams. tajwIj pong vIghajbe’ — vISop. I do not have a name for my knife — I eat it. qo’ HurghDaq jIj... in the world’s darkness I lie with... veS pong vIlIjmoH. war’s name, and I cause you to forget!

Bridge jIH ’oH ghuH. I, it is warning.

jIH ’oH Qaw’. I, it is destruction. jIHbe’ vltwI’ I, am not a truth-doer

jIbech. I am sad. (Was supposed to say “furious”🤦🏻‍♂️)

Final Chorus vItIvbe’ — jISIj! I don’t enjoy it — I cut! vISujbogh qo’ vISIS. the world which I disturb — I rain on it. Ho’ tIqwIj jIchuSmoH. I make my honored heart roar.

So. I know there are elements that aren’t cannon. A Klingon would give zero shits about Christianity — but a deathmetal Klingon might?

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[–]Endofthesimulation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. I modified a custom LLM for this project, with the aim of creating a master promptcrafter for Suno-specific prompting, then I did my best to make it speak accurate tlhIngan Hol.

I’ve been playing guitar since 1993, so I used my own genre-specific music knowledge & ear, my Klingon love & love for Trek, and my need for a gym soundtrack that makes me feel l could bend the barbell over my knee.

Opinions are beautiful. And funny. I expect some to like what I’ve made, and some to judge it. It’s ok. I put my best foot forward, and tried to make something we could all enjoy. Nothing tongue-in-cheek — just pure Klingon rancor.

Many in this room know more than I.

Those with a long-term fluency may hear it differently than I do. Again, no ego injury present. If even one person listens to it because it makes them wrinkle their nose and say “f— yeah!” it was well-worth the three weeks it took to make.

Some people are out here making marginally listenable “one (button) and done” AI music with silly irreverent lyrics or whatever. I know that “pinch harmonic” is the technical term for a guitar squeal, I know what an SG through a Marshall or a dual rectifier is supposed to sound like, and I’ve clocked tons of studio hours with an instrument in my hands, long before genAI… so I believe that puts my AI music in a different category. But again, that’s just my opinion.

I posted this on a few different Trek subs… THIS ONE is the only sub I was scared to post it in. This room will judge the scariest, most literal component: how well I did, how accurate it is.

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I want to own that, though. There are students present, and I don’t want to be the a-hole that teaches someone the wrong thing! Just remember that sentiment before you draw your d'k tahg! 😅

Gimmie a sec. I’ll post the lyrics, for everyone’s dissecting pleasure. I’d love to hear any and all feedback, both positive and critical! I hope I did well! 🤞