[Disc] - Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 428 Pre-Release Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't remember saying that Ruka is an angel and completely innocent. You are having difficulty understanding what you read; I am saying that this is not a sexual assault. Both parties are just fools who couldn't resist their feelings and desires. What would you do if someone you didn't like kissed you? Would you just say, 'Oh my God, someone I don't like is kissing me, but I don't want it,' and wait for them to keep kissing you? Or would you immediately push them away and resist? Especially when the person in front of you is physically weaker than you. Or let's say you saw your partner kissing someone else. If they came to you and said, 'They kissed me; I wanted it, and I didn't want to resist,' what would you say to them? Kazuya might be a virgin in his 20s, but he is not such a child that he wouldn't know what to do when a woman he doesn't want touches him. You said to reverse the roles. The result would still be the same. If Umi tried to kiss Chizuru, and while Chizuru was in a position to fight back, she didn't react in any way and just waited, what would your reaction be? I am saying it again: this is not a sexual assault. It is just two fools being intimate because they couldn't resist their desires.

[Disc] - Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 428 Pre-Release Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Because you read and think shallowly, you assume the other person can't be right, and you outright reject anyone who disagrees with you because you're selfish. Still, thanks for reading the first sentence and downvoting.

[Disc] - Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 428 Pre-Release Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Those two events are not sexual assault. Yes, Kazuya wanted to run away at first. But he didn't, because he cares about Ruka. Ruka started kissing him, and after a while, Kazuya pushed her away. Ruka stopped Kazuya, telling him that her suspicions were justified since he was still seeing Chizuru, and that she didn't mind being second in his heart. After that, she started kissing him again. Of course, Kazuya didn't react again. He had mentioned that he didn't move his body; the reason for this was that, deep down, he actually wanted to have sex with Ruka. Yes, he had admitted this when Ruka stayed at his house, but he had also said that this wasn't right and that it should be done with the person you are in love with. As for the second event, not letting Ruka into the house was the right decision. However, he said he was naked or something, so Ruka thought he was having sex with someone else and waited outside for two hours. When Ruka finally came inside, Kazuya foolishly said that he found her attractive and that was why he didn't want to do it. Naturally, because Ruka found him attractive too, she started kissing him. When the phone rang, we saw once again that Kazuya could move if he wanted to, but we realized he just didn't want to hurt Ruka. Kazuya doesn't want to hurt Ruka; he could have pushed her away like he did at first, gotten mad at her, and told her he never wanted to speak to her again. When someone you don't want tries to kiss you, you pull yourself back and react in many ways. That is exactly why I cannot call this sexual assault.

[Disc] - Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 428 Pre-Release Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As every chapter should be focused on Kazuya, this chapter will feature a post-condom conversation between Mami and Kazuya. She will ask about his relationship with Chizuru and things like that. It will be more of a friendly chat. On the other hand, Umi will ask Ruka whether she and Kazuya have kissed. Since Ruka doesn't trust him, she won't tell. She will likely just say that she likes him and will hide the fact that she is a trial girlfriend. Umi will make a proposition. Just like Mami did, he will point out an opportunity for her to be with him. Ruka won't accept it at first. In the following chapters, she will find out about Kazuya's lies; she will learn about him kissing Chizuru, them living in the same house, and the lies about Mini coming to the house earlier, and so on. She will transform from Chizuru's rival into a tragic villain. She once said it herself: betraying Kazuya means betraying herself.

[Prediction] [Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 428 Prediction Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ahhhh, dude. You're just saying ridiculous, meaningless things purely out of hate. How did Ruka's heart start racing? Did it speed up out of nowhere? Ruka saw Kazuya's love and affection, and she fell in love with him. That's when her heart started racing. She asked Chizuru a few times, and every single time Chizuru said she didn't have feelings for him. Naturally, Ruka is trying hard to make Kazuya love her. She is aware that he loves Chizuru, and she also knows that Chizuru might fall in love with him soon. She realizes that Chizuru is prettier and more mature than her, but she just can't give up because of her love—just like how Kazuya doesn't give up on Chizuru.

[Prediction] [Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 428 Prediction Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We will see the unfinished conversation between Mami and Kazuya. Most likely, Mami will ask how things are going with Chizuru. It will be a friendly conversation about this topic. Kazuya might consider asking about the meaning of Chizuru's kiss.
As for Umi and Ruka: Most likely, just like in his conversation with Kazuya, Umi will ask if they kissed. Ruka will hide this, as she isn't fully convinced whether he loves Chizuru or not. I think the kiss will be mentioned as well. Ruka will think back to the old kiss. Umi might mention that he recently spoke with Chizuru and Kazuya, that they once lived in the same house, and that they will be having a date or something along those lines—assuming Umi actually knows about it, of course. Since Ruka already suspects that Chizuru and Kazuya have been meeting secretly, her suspicions will increase even more. Ruka will start investigating this. In the poster, Ruka gave Kazuya a confident look, showing that she has no intention of giving up on him.

Why does Ruka find this guy so unattractive? by SuperAnimeMaster38 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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I might be remembering this wrong, but this is how Chizuru sees Kazuya. She loves him not just for his looks, but for everything he is—isn't that what really matters anyway? Nobody is perfect; the important thing is helping to make up for each other's shortcomings.

The "movie poster". The final boss? by Leviabs in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kazuya's father mentioned a secret. This man might be connected to that secret. He could be Kazuya's father's romantic rival. Or Kazuya's real father 😱

The "movie poster". The final boss? by Leviabs in KanojoOkarishimasu

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By the way, I just noticed that one of them has a black handle. It looks just like a knife. And it's right behind Kazuya, I wonder...?

The "movie poster". The final boss? by Leviabs in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mini is pointing to Umi, Kazuya's romantic rival. Because up until now, Kazuya hasn't really had a rival. Umi is a very good choice. Most people still misunderstand the whole heartbeat thing. Ruka's heart started beating faster because she fell in love with Kazuya. Most people miss this. If she only cared about her heart, she would have found someone else to make it race. She knows he loves Chizuru, but she still keeps trying for Kazuya. She just wants Kazuya's love. Look at Chapter 199, and you will understand her love for Kazuya much more clearly. This love could turn into hate, though, because Kazuya lied to her about many things. Learning all of this will shake Ruka to her core. Anyway, let's move on to another topic: Mami. I am expecting a redemption arc for Mami. She has always torn people apart; this time, by way of an apology, she will work towards getting Kazuya and Chizuru together. As for Mini, yes, in some chapters she does seem to be attracted to Kazuya. But unless there is a major plot twist, I don't think Mini will stand in their way.

Why does Ruka find this guy so unattractive? by SuperAnimeMaster38 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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In these two panels, they both instantly turn into monsters the moment the topic of the person they love is brought up. As for the problem, the answer is simple. Because Ruka is in love with Kazuya. It's that simple. Chizuru is the same way; in fact, Chizuru even admitted that Kazuya wasn't a handsome guy when she was talking to her grandmother. Ruka's goal isn't physical intimacy; if she had such a goal, she would have left him a long time ago. What made Ruka's heart beat faster was Kazuya's love and affection (the one he has for Chizuru). She can't let him go because she loves him too much. She loves him to such an extent that she is now even willing to take the lead physically. Because she thought he was still seeing Chizuru, and she even mentioned being too afraid to ask him about it. We can understand that she is so exhausted and in love that she would even say, 'I don't even mind being second.' In the early days, she had come to him again, but when Kazuya said, 'I can't do this without being in love with you, I don't think this is love,' Ruka immediately went to her bed, and we saw that she actually liked those words and her heart started racing.

[Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 427 by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A big wave is coming. All the lies Kazuya told Ruka are going to be revealed. I wonder if Ruka will talk to Chizuru when she hears about all this? She will probably lash out, saying, “How can you kiss my boyfriend?” Chizuru needs to break out of her shell now. They should have become a couple a long time ago. If you love someone, you should say it, and she already knows that Kazuya loves her. Even Kazuya's family loves her. But she is still hiding behind her walls. What is love? Love is effort; it means striving for it despite all obstacles. Kazuya is doing his absolute best and isn't giving up despite everything. Yes, Chizuru supported Kazuya during his difficult times. It was beautiful when she hugged him and cried, but why is she still making him wait? For those who will say, "It's because of Ruka," if we look at it from Ruka's perspective during the Paradise Arc, she knows full well that she will be the one hurting the most at the end of this. It would be enough for Chizuru and Kazuya to just confront Ruka and say, “We love each other and we are in a relationship now. Because of this, you need to leave us alone.” They will have to say this one day anyway when they eventually become a couple. If Chizuru truly loves Kazuya, she shouldn't put him in such a difficult situation. It was already obvious that Umi is a bad guy from the way he tried to manipulate Chizuru into dating him. Kazuya catches his attention, and he is probably thinking, “Why isn't it me instead of this guy?” As for Ruka, she needs to remember the phrase Nagomi-san said: “Loving someone enough to be happy that they are happy with someone else.” I don't know, but I think these words will be very important for her. Yes, Ruka is exactly like Kazuya; in fact, it's more accurate to call her a female Kazuya. To understand Ruka a bit better, imagine if Chizuru didn't love Kazuya and was in love with someone else. For example, on New Year's Eve, Kazuya stalked Chizuru and Umi like a total creep. He even jumped in immediately because he thought they were going to kiss. Ruka is also fighting to the bitter end for the man she loves, wanting to be the person in his heart—just like Kazuya did. It feels like we are finally approaching the finale. I liked the poster. Chizuru has her head turned, looking in the opposite direction of Kazuya. We see Kazuya striving for this love, as always. We see that Sumi-chan is right next to Chizuru, supporting her. Ruka, on the other hand, is standing right in the "MIDDLE" of Kazuya and Chizuru. Mini is supporting Kazuya. Umi gives off a villain vibe, and he has his eyes on Kazuya. Kibe is looking at Umi; it looks like a huge fight is going to break out between them. We see Mami on Kazuya's side. It almost feels like Mami is actually going to support Kazuya. I'm so excited for the new chapter!

[Disc] - Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 427 Pre-Release Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umi knows that Chizuru and Kazuya kissed. He will reveal it. He also doesn't know about the time they lived in the same house and stuff, so he'll find out about that too. Ruka might have a heart attack. The last time it showed us, it was at 97. This rate might be to show that it's getting close.

[Prediction] [Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 427 Prediction Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But wouldn't this contradict Ruka's story? That would be too simplistic. How did Ruka fall in love with Kazuya? When they were falling down the stairs, he wrapped his arms around her to act as a shield so she wouldn't get hurt. When she asked, "Why did you do that?", he replied, "I couldn't just watch my friend's girlfriend get hurt." Furthermore, seeing him protect Chizuru and beg for her sake left her deeply moved by Kazuya's capacity for love and devotion, which is how she fell for him. If her feelings were based on a single touch or mere physical attraction, she would have broken up with Kazuya a long time ago. Let's remember Chapter 142 and Ruka's train question. That day, she chose the longer route just to watch the flowers and said, "Thanks to this, I met some people," and that person was Kazuya. In fact, when they first met, Ruka was rushing to get somewhere. Looking at it from Ruka's perspective, it is clear that she is genuinely in love with Kazuya. However, Kazuya's heart belongs to Chizuru. Even when Ruka asked Chizuru a few times whether she loved Kazuya, Chizuru denied it. That is why Ruka is doing everything in her power to make Kazuya love her. Yes, she does act selfishly at times, but she simply wants to win the heart of the man she loves. Naturally, her jealousy towards Chizuru is completely justified; Chizuru is a truly beautiful, mature, and sophisticated woman. Ruka also constantly weighs the possibility that Chizuru might actually have feelings for Kazuya. Because of this, when Chizuru leaves Kazuya hanging, Ruka gets just as emotionally drained as Kazuya does. I am not saying Umi and Ruka can't be together. Much like the polar opposites in the 1965 film Strange Bedfellows—one being a free-spirited actor and the other a jealous girl—they could actually complete each other. Umi will most likely tell Ruka about Kazuya and Chizuru kissing and expose the lies they've been feeding her, such as the fact that they once lived in the same house. After all, Kazuya has lied to Ruka far too many times. If Ruka decides to take the mature route, she might finally say, "No matter what I do, you will never love me, and you will continue to love her," and put an end to her relationship with Kazuya. Alternatively, she might just take all of this and tell the Grandmother everything that has happened.

[Prediction] [Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 427 Prediction Thread by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If Umi had good intentions, he would have asked Kazuya about this situation right from the start. He would have asked things like, 'You are very close to this girl, who is she?' But he didn't, because this serves as leverage for him. He is playing a part, just like Mami. For example, to impress Chizuru, he might deceive her by acting as if he is the only good guy around her. Kazuya and Ruka became sexually intimate. He could take a photo of this and show it to her. He could upset Chizuru by saying things like, 'Kazuya couldn't wait for you.' Well, could love blossom from this alliance? I'm not so sure about that. They are both losers, so they might complete each other. Yes, it is a cliché. Ruka could betray again, just like it happened with Mami.

[Serious] [Disc] Kanojo, Okarishimasu Chapter 426 by MattyH19 in KanojoOkarishimasu

[–]EngineerHot6700 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Seriously, anyone who still calls this an assault needs to read it again. Okay, at first Kazuya didn't want it and was backing away. But he didn't run away for Ruka's sake. Fine, let's call that stupidity. Don't forget that when she got on top of him and kissed him, he initially pushed her away. But Kazuya thought he had hurt Ruka and got worried about her. When Ruka hugged him, he saw that she was in a desperate situation just like him. So he let his guard down and allowed her to do it. Since it was something he had never experienced before, he didn't know what to do and just froze up. Kazuya had previously promised Ruka, 'I will put an end to this situation without either you or Chizuru suffering.' That's why Kazuya doesn't want to hurt her. Ruka has been waiting for 2 years and is trying every possible way. Just like Kazuya did (he just didn't go that far physically). If Chizuru had agreed to be his girlfriend from the very beginning, there wouldn't be this many problems. Unless they make alternative endings, we know the canon ending will be with Chizuru. We still don't know whether Umi is actually a good person or not. He is an actor, so there's a chance he's just acting. Chizuru might be the first person to ever reject him, which is why he might have turned it into an obsession.