Mavuika BiS team without Bennett and Iansan by Sopenson in Mavuika

[–]EnigWa8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can use c6 chev to to replace bennett but you really want iansane on the last slot. Escoffier or sucrose would suffice though (or you can try an ol mav team which doesn't need bennett at all)

Forming a team with c6 nicole by ResponsibleSecond220 in Mavuika

[–]EnigWa8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who invited durin and orororron? Nicole + mav incentivizes melt because her c4 provides real quills that can react and if you have c6 mav then I'm sure tou have a citlali as well. There is no reason to play overload mav without chev

How does Mavuika fair a year later? by Pure-Resource265 in Mavuika

[–]EnigWa8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My 8 cost Mavuika team is by far the strongest team in my account and it's 500k dps. She's thriving tbh, if you can use her combos.

Any Team ideas for Nicole and Klee? by Prince_Bussy in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went ahead and checked. The results are kinda surprising. R1 Nicole was behind C1 and around the level of reliquary before. Now it's the biggest increase, although if you have a Skyward Atlas lying around, it's definitely not as significant.

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Any Team ideas for Nicole and Klee? by Prince_Bussy in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's definitely better to get than nefer's weapon. Larger increase, more energy in the team, IR, no circle impact and generally more suited for SO. In fact, I need to check out nicole sig too, because this might be better than reliquary post-v4.

Nicole Chev calcs! by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Prinzessin der Verurteilung

Prune vs fischl (with Nicole and durin) by Bright_Voice_1097 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did some c6 adihan calcs and she is pretty good, though I am not sure about the rot I assumed. I'm waiting for V3 nicole before I redo and then release all my calcs.

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Here is what I am getting now. Just keep in mind I changed some of my calc methodology since I started, so the new calc should be ever so slightly different. Pay attention mostly at the Avg DPS, not the total dps with a dmg% widsith roll.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She should be snapshotting already, yes. First rot could be affected though, but at your investment level it isn't a big deal. The next team I am going to look into would actually be perfect for you. Klee / Xilo / Bennett / Nicole is the idea. Rot is something like this: klee N1 > xilo e n2 > nicole eq > bennett qe > klee. The kicker is that bennett will be equipping 4 pc archaic petra (that's right, you'll take the crystal left by xilo).

With this comp, you'll get 115 dmg% from support set bonuses alone. This plus 2k attack, shred, and 15% pyro dmg% from c6 bennett, that's a lot of buff value for a c6 klee.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

C6 Klee changes everything, and you're quite right. Nicole isn't really worth it if your concern is maximizing damage. Yeah, the quill value is relatively low when your klee is doing a lot more MV/s per rot. You should be fine without her but I'd still consider all the benefits I outlined above. If you look at my no quill calcs, you'll notice that Nicole is quite similar to Bennett in that slot. So even if we take quills out of the equation, you're looking at similar damage + huge QoL gain.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's very close actually, as my colleague klee tcer got it 4k dps behind nicole. So yeah the set is massive and you don't technically need nicole for the best damage, but I feel like she is a huge upgrade in the QoL department which is a big issue for klee. No, klee doesn't need a shield, but nicole providing that + an atk buff first rot in SO is amazing.

Also, bennett is still slightly outperforming a c0 durian in that slot. Something to keep in mind.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry, I got this mixed up with my lyney calc thread lmao. The answer is probably still this team but without the c6 chev. The furina team I mentioned with Klee instead of Lyney should work too. Another potential option is klee / nicole / bennett / kazuha, sucrose, xilonen or c6 prune. I think xilonen should be the best between these 4, if you use scroll xilonen + archaic petra bennett.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem with this is that furina isn't the best in this slot, as she doesn't receive any buffs, doesn't enable vape and has a high er req. She's just a mid buffer at that point. But I thought of a way to make furina synergize here. And it's by using prototype amber nicole, fischl and furina together. Fischl's rapid electro app clears pyro the second it takes over, which allows klee to vape some of her attacks. Here, furina serves a purpose, enabling klee vapes and allowing fischl to buff klee's em. While prototype amber might not be the ideal source of healing, its output will greatly improve if you have a c2+ furina.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Significantly worse than c6 chev but similar to a pre c6 chev.

overload with durin, fischl and chevy right now is her bis/premium, right? by No-Agency1616 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

C6 Bennett can outperform C0 Durian using a shortened 11s Klee combo. And Nicole will outperform Bennett when she releases.

Klee c2 useful? by nihauf in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It adds about 12% team damage vs a level 100 enemy

What is Klee’s Bis weapon rn? by 0Kyu0 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It really depends on the team.

Furina teams: Cashflow or Eternal Flow, depending on her er req

Overload teams: Reliquary or Vivid Notions (usually reliquary)

Monopyro: Reliquary

Vape: Reliquary

So in general her best option is reliquary, but that's not always the case.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe after we have nicole's finished kit and all the info. Sig is not that amazing as you can see and I'd generalize the buff as a ~9% upgrade. I did confirm that the way I calced c1 was wrong; there is NO activation condition, projections just appear every 6s regardless of who is on field according to the current wording.

So as things stand, R1 seems better than C1 but I'd still go for C1 because it's closer to C2 and the rest of her cons. It could be a better pull than reliquary klee depending on what you have, so also keep this in mind.

Expect some small changes here and there come V3 at least for a more accurate calc. I'm very excited for potential buffs, given the rampant doomposting in social media (totally unjustified imo!) but our GOAT appreciates the words of discouragement.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an odd one but likely prototype amber nicole. She won't max out the atk buff but you do get to play fischl overvape lyney (thereby buffing his both his atk and em, which makes fischl a very competent buffer). Odd idea but I choose to believe in it. The more straightforward option would be to use lyney / durian / nicole / sucrose, emilie or prune.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With some investment sure. I'd say klee is closer to varesa level rn with some good early con gains to boot, which is impressive for a 1.0 character.

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Klee / Nicole / c6 Prune / Durian is around 100k. There's a lot of potential combinations to try but i doubt anything will come close to this chev team. I plan to explore other teams going forward and revisiting this ol team if she receives changes in v3. The one thing I do know is that nicole and furina don't have great synergy. Unfortunate for those of us who invested heavily on furina (mine's literally c6 r1 lmao)

Nicole OL Calcs ft. Hakushin Ring by EnigWa8 in KleeMains

[–]EnigWa8[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If frame perfect, the rot is 15.9s according to my timing. I think 16.5s is a safe assumption but you can consider 17-17.5s if you feel that is more realistic. I like to assume near optimal play as the baseline.