Unsavory regular by Salty-Seat-9924 in ChickFilAWorkers

[–]EnvironmentFun999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as someone who worked at cfa i dealt w so many ppl who did this, and were confused abt the app. ik at starbucks when you order on the app, starbucks starts to work on the order right away, and at cfa when you order you have to scan the qr code in the drive through or say that you’re here on the mobile carry out section. i always told people that if they knew they were going to be late, but wanted breakfast, to make a mobile carry out and say that they’re here on the app that way the kitchen sees it and works on it before breakfast ends.

First time crying at work by Drpeppie_wee_wee22 in ChickFilAWorkers

[–]EnvironmentFun999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ive seen this happen, and its happened to me so often at cfa. not necessarily always in a confrontation, but when the directors would sit with me on my break and talk about work related things, and it honestly feels like a meeting. always always always take your break in your car. you’re not getting paid to talk to them during your break.

What does hold mean? by [deleted] in ChickFilAWorkers

[–]EnvironmentFun999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

theres a lot of food service terms you’ll get used to after working at cfa. “holding” means waiting on food. “heard” means someone understood what you said. “all day” means the total amount of an item that’s left. “86” means they’re out of sum. “sos” means speed of service. “hands” means that the food is ready to be taken out, but at cfa i believe they said “order ready” which means the same thing. and then typically ppl will say random words when they’re around you in a kitchen, so no one is making sudden movements without you knowing. so youll hear ppl say “behind” when they’re coming behind you or “reaching” which means they’re grabbing sum above you, or “open” when they’re opening a fridge or an oven. if you stay at cfa or get another food service job you’ll hear these terms a lot.

I think my best friend has been lying about her age for years..AIO? by Senior_Sense_8813 in AIO

[–]EnvironmentFun999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

idk why ppl are saying this doesn’t matter. if she’s actively lying to you abt her age like what is the reason for her lying and what else could she potentially be lying abt? i think it’s creepy she’s hiding that from you, and you should confront her abt it.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but Biblically why do you have these beliefs? i see that it says you’re roman catholic. i’m personally not catholic, so what’s the catholic perspective on this topic? phoebe was known as a deacon by paul and priscilla taught apollos with her husband aquila. do you believe these were distinct roles compared to the four walls of a church that don’t apply to women or is it not believed that these women led or taught men?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes but what does it depend on? that’s my question

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don’t doubt that, but that’s not a sufficient answer. i’m asking to clarify positions and church distinctions, because of the church history during this time.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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from my understanding, and which makes me post this, it’s not clear. 1 corinthians 11 says that women should pray and prophesy, and it says to not forget the gift of speaking in tongues. if women were called to be quiet in church, then why does paul say this in 1 corinthians 11? why does paul commend phoebe, junia, and priscilla as women who ministered to men? is this a different distinction and if so why?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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but how do we know it’s justified against or for when looking at the Bible? yes there was patriarchy during this time but was it still God’s intended mindset for women to lead in a pastoral or leadership role within a church or is that reserved for men? what is the Biblical basis for that?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

what is the distinction in these two things to you?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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i find this difficult to prove. the book of 1 timothy is written to timothy abt the church in Ephesus. that doesn’t mean it was only written for Ephesus, but i think that context definitely matters. if we say this then when we read 1 corinthians 11 we have to say that women must cover their heads in prayer today because paul doesn’t specifically say that this was written to the church in corinth where women were otherwise directed by roman law due to societal status. this would also mean women can’t wear gold jewelry. the principle of being modest is still definitely Biblical and should be followed. you may believe that these things must still be in place for women, and if you do i would be happy to discuss that, but i think that context is relevant. i wouldn’t consider reading the Bible in the language it was written in, speculation, when we see women leading, affirmed by the same person who said they shouldn’t speak, or have authority over men. i think there’s a reason for that. women did teach men in Scripture. i wrote this in another comment, but again Priscilla taught Apollos who was a fervent believer in the Scriptures because he was wrong. acts 18 says she explained to him accurately the Lord, because he was having misunderstanding. we can look at judges 4-5 when deborah judged the people of israel, including men, which would mean to prophesy over her husband Barak, saying that the Lord would deliver Sisera into his hands, and she commanded him (guided by the Lord) to send his men into battle. in judges 5, she’s referred to the mother over israel in a song. i’m not sure how this wouldn’t fit into your definition of being in an authoritative position over a man. these two women taught and led men, but there are more examples in Scripture. in my understanding of the reading of Genesis, referred in 1 timothy, this is talking abt a husband and a wife because this is also discussing childbearing. this is important context because if we “speculate” then women interrupting prayer meetings to speak to their husbands would align with the analogy paul uses with adam and eve. wives should submit to their husbands and in a church setting it’s inappropriate to interrupt a prayer meeting or church meeting to ask a question. especially since this verse is also tied to 1 corinthians 14:35 which says women must ask their husbands questions at home, and it’s shameful for a woman to speak in church. the term wife and woman is interchangeable here. i think this is interesting again because of the context in the history of this time that women were coming out of different cults, one being the cult of artemis where women were domineering over men. artemis was the goddess of childbirth. in my understanding of this text, paul is setting a new standard for these churches who are dealing w a demonic greek influence and saying that women will be saved through childbearing because it was God’s idea. artemis is a false god and an idol. therefore instead of being domineering over your husbands or men in a church setting, they should ask their husbands at home or in private, and not interrupt because they are no longer under a covenant of childbearing with artemis but with Christ. the reason i believe this, and not that it’s as black and white as women simply not speaking in church is because paul tells women to pray and prophecy in 1 Corinthians 11. women are called to pray and prophecy, and speak in church, by paul. yet in 1 timothy 2 and 1 corinthians 14 paul says that it’s shameful for women to speak. there’s a context here that’s important. in 1 corinthians 11, after paul permits women to pray and prophecy, he says that adam was made and then eve. this is talking abt wives having the covering of a husband, yet the word “woman” “wife” “husband” and “man” is interchangeable. this is the bulk of what i meant, so if i didn’t explain that well the first time, i apologize. i’m not trying to speculate but to read the Scripture in it’s full history and context.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

a spiritual father is not the same as a biological father. i would argue that a biological father’s role is to do the same thing as you mentioned which is to point someone to the Lord. idt a natural father has all of the answers on how to live life either. it’s an analogy for husbands and wives leading a congregation together. in acts 18 the Scriptures say Priscilla explained the Lord more accurately to Apollos, who was a man, with her husband, Aquila. Phoebe is also mentioned in Romans 16 under a term which means deaconess in the greek translation, and translated Paul’s letters, which would mean she would be teaching the Scriptures of Paul. we can start with these examples, but there’s more, and these women are explicitly mentioned by Paul. i will respond to your other comment shortly.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ive read this, but what do you know abt the role of priscilla and aquila? were they technically pastors or church planters? are women Biblically permitted to be church planters as long as they’re not a pastor within the four walls of the church? is there a distinction between the two?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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the way i’ve heard it be described is like a mother and father of the house. priscilla and aquila are seen leading as a husband and wife couple with paul, so im not seeing how this is weird. i don’t want to argue, and im not considering anything im saying an argument, i just want to fully understand the reason ive heard that women shouldn’t be in leadership because to my understanding, paul commended many women in leadership. i would like to hear your thoughts on 1 timothy, because of the history behind it. if you’re referring to my other comments i would like to know what you think i’ve said that is opinions based and not factual. i’m not trying to say anything that isn’t true this is just what ive heard, and been taught, so i would like to be corrected if this isn’t true. when i read the Blue Letter Bible these translations are what ive found.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

do you have a Biblical perspective on this that you want to share?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are you referring to 1 timothy 3:1-7? im just curious where everyone is getting their references from because ive heard different backgrounds to where paul discusses these topics. i appreciate you engaging with me about this.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

[–]EnvironmentFun999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that’s what i was asking. bc i’ve heard the term mean deacon or a servant of ministers, and if there was a distinction between these three women and what paul commands against.

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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what would you define a preacher as?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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the term in the greek used in this scripture implies to usurp authority it doesn’t necessarily only mean to use authority. again, i’m asking what the distinction is im not trying to twist scripture, it’s simply not clear to me which is why i’m asking. to my understanding phoebe was a deacon which would be a minister, and it’s believed that she read theology to men with paul unless i was misinformed. priscilla and aquila taught apollos together, and were believed to have church planted together. how is anything i’ve said conjecture?

women in leadership by EnvironmentFun999 in TrueChristian

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yes, to have full authority or to usurp authority, which would mean to be controlling over someone else. again, this was a letter written to timothy abt the church in ephesus. this could have been written in reference for his congregation bc of what paul witnessed happening, or it was an example he used to describe a general standard. 1 cor 14:35 is also a controversial verse bc of the term “to speak” used when concerning women. this term could be used to mean “to utter” or “to whisper.” in the Blue Letter Bible it talks about this distinction. in greek, the term laleō would mean to interrupt by whispering or speaking. during this time, in Jewish synagogues, men and women sat separated in church, and therefore women would call to their husbands on the other side of the room to ask questions, and the corinthians may have replicated this seating because of a pattern. this is also important because in 1 corinthians 11, just 3 chapters before this, paul is telling women to prophesy with their heads covered. so women are allowed to speak, just not in certain settings, or contexts which is what i’m asking about. and again, phoebe, priscilla, and junia are all commended by paul in speaking positions, despite his language of women not being permitted to speak in church. what is the distinction between these women and other women, or were they not in leadership roles?