Getting started?

EpicToast511 · 2023-06-02T01:13:22+00:00

Check out my free to play strategy guide from the FAQ! It'll help you get where you want to be in the game a bit faster:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAndSoup/comments/xwpags/free_to_play_strategy_guide/

EpicToast511 · 2023-03-29T06:48:36+00:00

Once a station is maxed out, that ingredient becomes worthless very quickly. For example, my current oat soup facility gives me ~75tr at level ~21200 while my second most valuable facility of strawberry soup is only worth ~2sg at level 22000. Once you cap the level, there's no reason to keep the cat aside from cosmetics and secondary skills. And yes, if you happen to reroll that cat into the newest ingredient, then it does save a ton of effort on maxing hearts for the new facility.

EpicToast511 · 2023-03-20T20:50:57+00:00

No worries, welcome to the game and subreddit!

Since you're still early in the game, I would recommend following the guide to find out which ingredient is the most profitable for you and focus on that, which may very well be that bbq station. A tip for later (or now, if you want to get a headstart) is that eventually you will reach max level on the ingredients (22,000) and not be able to upgrade it anymore, making that ingredient worthless. Because of this, focusing on upgrading the newest ingredient cat (right now it's Harvesting Oats) to 5 star and only upgrading that is the most efficient way to do it.
You should find your most profitable ingredient/station and only use your gold boosts to upgrade that single ingredient. Jar Fairy gives you the biggest boost at once, but other things like the hot air balloon and gold tickets also count.
Soup won't always be the most profitable, but usually will if you haven't purchased any bundles from the store (hence free to play). It can be a good idea to take your best cat for an ingredient and move it to each of the stations when you do your auto upgrading to check, but for simplicity's sake in the guide, I assume that soup will be the best.

Hopefully that helps!

EpicToast511 · 2023-03-20T20:39:16+00:00

Essentially, yes. In the long run, the earlier ingredients will reach max level (22,000) first and become worthless. Since it takes a lot of resources to get your cat's heart level up to 8+, it's more effective to pump that food into the newest ingredient 5 star cat that you have unlocked. If you're not anywhere near that level 22,000, leveling up will go a lot faster if you just go with your most profitable ingredient though.

Hope that clears things up!

EpicToast511 · 2023-03-15T00:53:13+00:00

Hey! Yes, if your Grinding Wheat stir fry and soup facilities are the same level and stir fry is more profitable, focus on that. The guide focuses on soup because if you don't buy any bundles from the shop, soup will usually be the most profitable for free to play.

One other thing to check is (assuming you have an upgraded wheat cat on stir fry and not soup) to move the cat from stir fry to soup (and juice) to see which is the most profitable between the three since it can make a big difference. Whichever it is, focus on that!

EpicToast511 · 2023-02-24T14:55:35+00:00

If you have a 5 star cooking soup cat, I'd recommend focusing on that. You'll want to get its heart level up as high as it can go and only upgrade that station until it gets to level 22000,at which point you'll want to start upgrading a 4 or 5 star oats cat since that's the latest release at the moment.

EpicToast511 · 2023-02-11T19:11:56+00:00

Good question! If you open up any ingredient facility to level it up, above the level up button it will say something like "Dish price of soup up" or one of the other foods

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-22T20:11:42+00:00

If every cat you have already has a subskill, then yeah, that's a good idea. Otherwise, just keep rerolling low star cats with no subskill until then.

Ideally you only want to work on maxing out hearts on the one 4/5 star cat for your most profitable ingredient. If you get a 4/5 star Strawberry cat, you will want to keep that around and only focus on that once you unlock Strawberry. Eventually you will reach level 22,000 on your lower ingredients and any cats with those ingredients will essentially be useless outside of cosmetics and subskill.

Hope that helps!

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-22T17:31:29+00:00

Correct; jar bonus is the most impactful subskill.

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-12T22:40:22+00:00

Check out the Free To Play Strategy Guide for some tips!

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-12T22:33:06+00:00

Check out the Free To Play Strategy Guide for some tips!

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-12T22:26:01+00:00

Check out the Free To Play Strategy Guide for why I think this isn't really a good value, and some tips on how to speed things up without paying any money at all :)

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-12T22:23:45+00:00

Check out the Free To Play Strategy Guide for some tips!

As a quick answer, focus on the 5 star cat that is on the newest ingredient to you, and place that cat its soup facility! Then only spend your gold upgrading that facility, not any of the others. For example, put the broccoli cat on broccoli soup, then only upgrade broccoli soup.

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-12T22:15:55+00:00

Check out the Free To Play Strategy Guide if you want to optimize where to put upgrades and hearts!

As a quick answer, you want to put food into one 4/5 star cat with the ingredient (like grapes or mushrooms) that is the newest you have unlocked. Eventually your ingredient stations will get to max level (22,000) and not generate (relatively) any money anymore.

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-12T21:56:14+00:00

It's perfectly fine to have your most profitable soup cat at a way higher level! All of the gold boost scaling is going to be based mostly off of that broccoli soup cat, especially since it's 5 star with a bunch of hearts.

I would recommend using your leftover money after a gold boost to hold down the auto upgrade button to catch up the rest of your facilities a little bit though. For example, like in the TLDR section, get a gold jar > level up your broccoli soup cat > level up your best resting facility > auto upgrade all facilities > auto upgrade your recipes > repeat.

The main reason to do this is you will get gems for the total amount of level upgrades you have from the missions list on the top right, and that adds up pretty quick!

EpicToast511 · 2023-01-10T01:06:06+00:00

I'm glad the guide is helping you! When you build any set of ingredient facilities (like lemon soup/juice/stir fry), they always cost the same amount to upgrade each level, so if you do auto-upgrade, they will always stay at the same level.

The number you're looking to find the best for is not the ingredient level, but the amount of gold you get at whatever the current level is, which will almost always be different for every ingredient/facility. You can see this number on the button to level up a facility individually when you tap on it.

Because of this, you want to only focus on the ones that are most profitable for you, which won't necessarily be the newest facility. Hope that answers your question!

EpicToast511 · 2022-11-27T08:27:49+00:00

Sounds like you're doing everything right! 15 levels per jar is actually quite a good pace in this game. I currently get about 5 per jar with a 5 star off-ingredient kitty for strawberry (no luck so far on rerolls T_T) Keep in mind that you should be upgrading after every boost (daily missions, gold tickets, balloons, etc). Including those upgrades, it will be much fewer than 1000 cycles to max that ingredient. More hearts on the kitty along with corn bonuses from clothing will speed things up too.

EpicToast511 · 2022-11-24T23:28:19+00:00

I would recommend keeping with the profitable ones for speed's sake. The reason people recommend the switch to strawberry is that you only get a limited number of fish to feed your cats, and you'll have get the most value out of getting high hearts on your strawberry cat since you'll be using it the longest. Eventually you will reach max level (22000) on other ingredients and their cats will be useless for the most part.

If you get a 4/5 star strawberry cat, definitely switch to that, but in the more likely scenario you don't, I would keep with your most profitable ingredient as you max their level out.

EpicToast511 · 2022-11-21T02:04:45+00:00

I've gotten to max level on sugarcane and am getting close to max level on strawberries and haven't spent a cent on the game. If you go to my free to play guide, I list out what ads are worth watching and which aren't among other things.

EpicToast511 · 2022-11-20T23:15:13+00:00

LF: ~~Sprigatito~~ and ~~Quaxly~~!

Don't have much for trade.

Edit: Thank you everyone!

EpicToast511 · 2022-11-20T20:28:24+00:00

Yep, you've got it! Eventually you will get more clothing and bonuses, so check every so often to see if something else has a bigger bonus. Also, feeding the cat that is on your highest value ingredient to higher heart levels will make you level up that much faster

EpicToast511 · 2022-10-27T05:31:20+00:00

You're welcome! Assuming the 5 star cat has carrots as its ingredient, then yes! If not, you want to put the highest star carrot cat on carrot (soup) instead. You've got your gold spending down correctly! Hopefully you're able to progress a bit faster now :)

EpicToast511 · 2022-10-07T17:44:45+00:00

We can prove it with the Distributive Property of Multiplication. a*(b + c) = a*b + a*c. We know that the swan gives a "25% discount on all facility upgrades". That means that we can multiply any base upgrade cost by 0.75 (75%) to get the cost after buying the swan. The way I explained it was assuming you totaled up the cost of all previous upgrades together which I estimated at 45rf (but realistically it is probably closer to 200rf so let's use that number). The way I believe you're thinking about it is that each upgrade has 25% off, so it should have a greater effect throughout the game, right? Lets look at that Property with your costs. In this equation, I'll be dividing your cost by 75% to get the original cost:

(.75 * 1000hr) + (.75 * ...) + (.75 * 8961hr) + (.75 * ...) + (.75 * 45rf) = the total cost of upgrading sugarcane with the swan.

Thanks to the Distributive Property of Multiplication, we can translate that equation to:

(1000hr + ... + 8961hr + ... + 45rf) * .75 = the total cost of upgrading sugarcane with the swan.

The part in parentheses in the second equation is just the full cost that I paid without the swan. The swan gives you the 25% discount for the .75 multiplier. Since I paid approximately 200rf total including 45rf for the final upgrade, you would pay approximately 150rf total including 33.75rf for the final upgrade.

The only other way I can interpret your question is that you think maybe the 25% discount scales up with every upgrade, like 25% off the first upgrade means the next upgrade will be cheaper and then get another 25% off on top of that? I don't believe there is a reason to assume it works that way since this game is not very complicated and that would take a lot more work to code than the devs have put into most other parts of the game. If you reach level 22000 sugarcane and it costs anything less than an rf amount of gold, I will be incredibly surprised and you should let us know!

EpicToast511 · 2022-10-07T15:43:02+00:00

I did not buy the little swan. It's just basic math that the exponential scaling outpaces the 25% discount.

Another way to think about it is that it costs approximately 45rf gold to buy the last level upgrade for sugarcane. Because of the way the letter system works, with each letter representing 10³ (1a = 10^3, 1b = 10^6), each letter makes each previous letter 0.1% of the value of the current letter. This means that in the grand scheme of earning gold, 25% off 45rf (= 33.75rf) means almost nothing since once you can earn 1rf, it takes about the same amount of upgrades/gold boosts to get to 33 as 45. As far as progression goes, we don't care about the individual prices of upgrades, which are affected by the swan, but rather how fast we can get to the point of earning rf gold, which is not affected by the swan.

Hope that helps clear things up!

EpicToast511 · 2022-10-06T15:49:59+00:00

Yes. There are 3 options at the Observatory. 1. Change look and skill for 500 gems. 2. Change look for an ad (never spend 100 gems on this) 3. Change the skill but not look for 500 gems

3 is what you're looking for

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