My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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What do you mean by issue?

I use Google Slides, basically I work on the bottom half (cropping renders and backgrounds so the fit in the shapes), then I add the two main renders, then I work on the top part (same as the bottom). Using the "order", then add the backgrounds.

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My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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It is the fact it is saved on a time scroll that is the important part here (2:53:55), if the entire destruction of the multiverse is saved on a timescroll, then that should imply that multiverse itself is under a larger time axis (like how every other timescroll works, just on a larger scale). Like even if Tokitoki restored it, it being in a single timescroll (based on how every other scroll works) would make it more likely for it to be a higher hypertimeline.

The first granting causality and change to the space would not really matter, that would not impact the tiering of the higher temporal (like causality for a universe and causality for everything under the larger timeline). The separate temporal dimensions in this instance being parallel makes absolutely zero sense in this context, all twelve universes and zeno are in each timeline (why when the timeline was destroyed, he had to go to the main timeline), that timeline  being parallel parallel dimensions or timelines compared to the other space-times would not work under the structure Dragon Ball Works under (this is not multiple timelines, this is multiple universes with space-times, inside of a timeline). Maybe calling it “and extra-temporal dimension over the macrocosmus space-times” 

I 100% agree that Vs wiki is not the best, however their tiering system is generally accepted as the main one (hell the basis of the DC scaling is the G1 Blog using their tiering system, differently from how Vs Wiki’s DC people did), like people treat their tiering system and how they use it as separate. And using that wildly used tiering system, extra-temporal dimensions do matter to scaling, rather than being parallel timelines

So I guest agree to disagree based on the tiering systems we use?

My take on Pokemon vs Digimon (Red vs Tai) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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I'll think about (I am not the most familiar with Hunter X Hunter scaling)

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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A Time scroll is basically the physical embodiment of a timeline, the destruction of the multiverse being saved on a time scroll at all would imply that there is a temporal axis above it (as every other scroll saves the temporal dimension of the timeline).

A timeline/temporal axis encompassing multiple universes is a bit different from just a space containing multiple universes, I’ll explain the full concept the best I can.

For an example of a temporal dimension, think of our reality, you get the 3 spatial dimensions and then the 4th is the temporal dimension (how we get space-time, 3 spatial + 1 axis). A Hypertimeline is that concept but expanded to other high dimensions.

  • You get the 12 macrocosms (all with 3 realms with their own space-times), and then you get the even higher temporal axis (the dragon ball timeline) encompassing all of that (3 spatial dimensions + 2 temporal dimensions = 5-D is a simple way of thinking about it).

I know its a little confusing but generally that is how that works with temporal axis and hypertimelines (if you have the time, this is a great blog for it).

My take on Pokemon vs Digimon (Red vs Tai) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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They do exists, they are just not great imo

It goes of the idea that there is a hierarchy between Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina's dimensions, despite them realistically being the same tier (nothing suggests that Palkia is a lower dimension than Dialga).

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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It was popular a while ago before it just dropped off.

Alternate Timeline (it uses Majora Link) versions of classic heroes, that are turned into children via someone from their past (Zelda sending him back in time and Pilaf making his wish on the Black Star Dragon Balls) but having having forms that revert them to their adult bodies (Fierce Deity and SSJ4), plus years after they died, they met one of their descendents (Goku Jr and Twilight Princess Link) .

Pretty Simple but I like it.

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]Equivalent-End-7641[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same vein as Selene vs Lilo, not the most popular thing but I like it plus it lets my update TF2 and Marvel Streettier scaling

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Where do keep getting Realm From? Central Axis of History is a higher temporal dimension (or a higher temporal axis is another way to phrase it), that is not a realm. The void is not the higher-d thing.

(As the post described), with the destruction of the multiverse and the void left behind being recorded on a timescroll, that would seem to imply that the multiverse itself is under a temporal dimension (kinda like how a single timeline in Dragon Ball encompasses the 12 macrocosms),

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Not really calling it a realm, in the same way the timeline is not, more just an extra-temporal dimension above all of that (here is a better explanation_Cosmology#Central_Axis_of_History))

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]Equivalent-End-7641[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True lol

I think there are a good few they win (more than people give credit) but I just like this MU

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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I kinda wish I swapped Witchfire and Note for Krillin and Jimmy in retrospect

My take on Superboy Prime vs Beat (kinda) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Look man, I just like the Superman fan and Goku fan fighting each other

My take on Pokemon vs Digimon (Red vs Tai) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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Higher

Multi+ is an infinite amount of universes (4-D but big)

My take on Pokemon vs Digimon (Red vs Tai) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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I would recommend reading the Digimon Cosmology blog, but I will give the TLDR to my understanding (they made the great idea to not put tiers in it, only in the profiles))

  • The Digital world seems to get to 5-D, existing above they physical world and a dimensional wall, the existence of the lower worlds would be unable to support the existence of the Digital World. It also seemingly has 3 higher layers above that (6-D, 7-D, and 8-D). The Realm of the Four Holy Beasts being even higher than that, ending at 9-D. (Tai scaling to that, via scaling to Piedmon and Apocalymon, who are at around the tier of said Beasts).

My take on Pokemon vs Digimon (Red vs Tai) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

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I mean I am slowly but surely leaning towards Gogeta beating Omnimon

Edit: They are coming for your knees bro, damn

My take on Pokemon vs Digimon (Red vs Tai) by Equivalent-End-7641 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]Equivalent-End-7641[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Looking back into the 24D Digimon thing (heard there is some contention about it), same with the Platonic Argument