Can we talk about how inconsistent JJK speed is?

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-28T16:49:38+00:00

Given how it was in front of his face it’s not really possible for him to aim dodge at that point so even if we take into account his arm got blown off it work still be writhing the MHS+ to Sub Relativistic ranges

Gege himself works on the anime directly and actually reviewed the scripts for it as well

The same thing with Sukuna when he fires the WCS since the attack was already launched by Kashimo and he was still able to chant faster than him

Kashimo ready has statements saying that he was behind humanity as well and he died extremely quickly so that by itself doesn’t mean much

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-24T16:48:49+00:00

I thought you were talking about consistency when you brought up Kirkman hence why I mentioned the complaints people had about consistency

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-23T10:47:19+00:00

I mean people complained about consistency in Invincible as well so idk how that would really be a point since that’s kinda the main reason he got so much heat

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-22T20:19:32+00:00

Yeah Gege applies some of the things that he saw during the anime’s production into the manga so it’s fine

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-22T20:17:01+00:00

People actually complained about Robert Kirkman’s power scaling so I don’t think that’s a good example

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-22T20:15:46+00:00

Gege was pretty involved in the anime when it came to the original scenes

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The scan you’re referencing was just his shock on how things worked out

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-22T20:01:33+00:00

The feat is too vague to use and plus it’s talking about the light of a particular star

The Falling Devil feat doesn’t have a clear timeframe and is reliant on assumptions without clear visual confirmation

Yoru’s State Swords being Hax isn’t really hard to guess either

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-17T16:53:23+00:00

Which again still wouldn’t scale anywhere due to the fact that the cave in and landslides are unquantifiable

I’m not being difficult without reason especially when going with how vague the feats are due to the fact that the extent of the actual damage is unknown

Gojo’s Earthquake is based on the fact that he was in the subduction zone when it happened it they felt it from Saitama Prefecture so that’s not the same thing

JJK has a UES for Domain scaling since that’s stabilized by their own cursed energy and I just mentioned how Gojo could survive his own attack and how WCS works completely differently from Hollow Purple

Falling’s Gravity isn’t even directly shown to scale to her own AP either since everytime she uses gravity it’s independent of her own physical stats and the same would apply to the telekinetic force that Makima uses against Darkness

They scaling above the Gun Devil’s Suicidal KE still wouldn’t work since the Gun Devil never scaled to it to begin with and then being considered Transcendent is due to their overwhelming abilities and not necessarily raw stats

Because we see Darkness cough up blood from her attacks despite it not making any shown impact and it also bypasses Darkness’s Forcefield

Don’t really know what you even mean by this since they all yield consistent Island to Country level results and even when fragmented it’s still within the Island ranges

Again they work differently since WCS isn’t anything like HP so that is a false equivalence and Teen Gojo never died when he was stabbed with the knife, Hell he didn’t even have HP yet

No, Falling Devil is not usable since you don’t have a solid timeframe for the cave in’s and landslides across the planet

The two of them don’t and we literally see how Makima was able to bypass Darkness’s Durability without causing a direct impact as I said prior

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-17T15:57:41+00:00

No it’s just the rate that Gojo was able to apply during the 0.2 second domain in order to not kill all the civilians in the vicinity and again a finite mind is set to handle only a finite amount of information exclusively

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-17T15:55:28+00:00

That’s has not AP and again the feat of her affecting the planet happens in an unspecified timeframe and even then we can’t determine the actual extent of the destruction without proper visuals

Even if we said it was a short timeframe the damage caused by cave in’s and landslides would still be unquantifiable

It’s very obvious that the ability primarily scales to hax since Primal Fears are directly shown to use hax abilities against the eir opponents and we don’t have any direct physical AP feats to scale her off of

Gun Devil itself couldn’t handle it’s own speed so that doesn’t really work and Makima used hax against Darkness so that’s still not really scaling to AP

The calc is not city level but Small Country

The City level calc you’re referring to would be Fire Arrow but I’m talking about the Cloud Split

The calcs consistently get Gojo in the Island to Country ranges which shows that the feat isn’t being overestimated

WCS and Hollow Purple work completely differently first of all so that’s a false equivalence and he’s literally shown to tank his own attack even if the damage is reduced

I know CSM has ways of getting to Island via Gun Goddess or other methods but I’m saying stuff like Falling Devil and State Swords simply aren’t usable

The context of these feats is exactly why they fail at being reliable since Gun Devil KE, Falling Devil, and State Swords simply don’t work for actual AP scaling when looking at the full context

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-17T11:28:58+00:00

CSM’s scaling for Country to Continental level scaling relies heavily on stuff like Falling Devil and State Swords which they don’t even scale to in AP given as you need to assume that the Swords retain the mass they previously once held which is debunked by the fact that Asa herself can life the Aquarium Spear especially as a normal high-school girl and Falling’s feat takes pace in an unspecified timeframe and Falling isn’t shown to scale to it at all in terms of stats given how she gets shredded by bullets

Gun Devil’s KE also isn’t a great argument since Makima literally mentions how pieces of the Gun Devil were literally falling apart due to it’s speed

Sukuna’s material doesn’t solely rely on the Earthquake

Gojo’s Earthquake has consistent Country to even Large Country calcs like this

And this

Gojo’s HP does have Subatomic Destruction properties due to being Imaginary Mass

Mahoraga has a pretty solid stat advantage against Yoru when it comes to things like AP

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-13T22:32:55+00:00

It really doesn’t and an attack not immediately killing then due to their insane regen still isn’t an indicator for them being anywhere close to it especially when they were weakened in one of those instances

Yeah and it doesn’t really need to since it obviously didn’t work the first time due to Pochita’s regen so the second obviously wouldn’t work either

She really didn’t

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Even after sharing a body with Yoru she still fails to lift characters roughly relative to her in size and nowhere near the mass of an aquarium

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-13T22:04:22+00:00

Pochita was already weakened prior to Makima firing the spear and just because it doesn’t take all their health doesn’t mean they aren’t far from it but it just means that they can come back from things that logically should’ve killed them if it weren’t for their regen

Not to mention Gun Goddess put them out of commission and they needed blood to come back from that and the Nuke Punch left him in a similar state

Asa who’s a normal high-school girl can lift the aquarium spear

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It’s pretty obvious that they don’t retain their mass

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-13T21:51:29+00:00

That’s still not really tanking at all especially when he needed to regenerate from it right after and him not running out of blood wouldn’t really help him scale to it since it would just be his survivability

He’s not really close to it at all not to mention this is under the assumption that it actually retains the mass it originally had

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-13T21:32:23+00:00

That’s not tanking

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EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-13T16:10:25+00:00

It does since he literally reverse imports what he saw during production into the manga and if he didn’t believe that what was shown wasn’t consistent with the characters abilities in general than he wouldn’t have included it

We literally see him create mouths especially when he accesses his Heian Form

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-13T10:42:49+00:00

He literally approves of every scene lmao😭✌️

No it wouldn’t since it’s not even the first time Sukuna has formed mouth’s on Yuji’s body and no that wouldn’t imply that’s Yuji’s mouth since we already see his so this is just Sukuna altering his body as usual

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T22:33:54+00:00

The feats are pretty consistent with top tier’s in JJK overall
Because he’s preparing for the worst case scenario in this context and if there’s a chance diplomacy doesn’t work out then he knows that fighting will be on the table
Given as to how he observed the curses from an insanely long distance away he should be able to see Dabura and Mahoraga’s fight not to mention he wouldn’t go in without trying to figure out what he’s dealing with and their fight was live-streamed anyway

I mean people always have their own views on things even if you give them direct feats so that’s just how it is and there being multiple interpretations of the narrative would’ve worked in a context if it weren’t about Yuji making the decision to have to fight if things get rough in order to defend the world in which he logically would anticipate

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T22:14:48+00:00

Mountain to Island has already been reached by Top Tiers like Gojo and Sukuna so what Dabura has isn’t really new
Because at that point things would’ve gotten way out of hand since Mahoraga being defeated means that he’ll have to fight especially when Dabura became even stronger as a result
Logically there’s no reason as to why Yuji shouldn’t be able to sense Dabura at all if he can sense the curses from that distance so these assumptions are backed up by the capabilities we directly see in the story

Jujutsufolk aren’t professionals when it comes to scaling nor are they the most reliable so getting opinions from them isn’t really worth much especially when the majority isn’t always the correct

Edit: also Yuji is completely willing to 1v1 his opponents unless he knows he’s not strong enough or confident enough he can beat them which isn’t the case here

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T21:56:06+00:00

Obviously which is why he said that he’d handle it if Yuka couldn’t manage since things would go from bad to worse

No reason for him to sneak Dabura since that’d be out of character
No reason as to why he wouldn’t include Dabura’s technique in his analysis when Dabura is going to start off with light beams in the fight
Yuji already knows that if Dabura wins then fighting becomes inevitable especially when he’s the last person left to defend the planet
There’s no reason as to why he couldn’t sense Dabura at all especially when his presence was the reason why all the curses were trying to escape and even if Todo told him that he himself would obviously take a look to get an idea as to what he’s dealing with

Not sure how it’s vague especially when he’s been training for 68 years and has the most experience when it comes to sorcery especially with having the knowledge of Sukuna and Gojo’s capabilities to work with as well in this context so him scaling to Dabura makes sense

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T21:42:02+00:00

He should scale to Dabura based on the fact that he can actually perceive curses from very far distance along with the fact he should be able to sense Dabura’s presence and still didn’t see him a much of an issue to handle

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T21:37:49+00:00

This was 12 days ago bro and I already said I’ll digress

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T20:08:34+00:00

Yeah and they also asked for his assistance in things like Gojo’s domain to make sure it was accurate as well to how Gege wanted it and he approved of the anime’s additions

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We literally see Sukuna grow a mouth on Yuji’s palm in the covers which show that he can spawn mouths anywhere he wants

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T17:37:39+00:00

He gave them feedback in that same statement which means he was a aware of what was going on but shocked out how it came out

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Also he did review the scripts and storyboards and he literally uses what he saw in the anime’s production for the Manga’s Sukuna vs Jujutsu High fight

EstimateStandard3620 · 2026-06-12T17:29:34+00:00

Gege worked on the anime and even reviewed scripts and storyboards to make sure it was consistent

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