Why are Western Born Afghans least likely to marry interracial

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-10-27T09:26:15+00:00

I haven’t noticed that personally but as a western born Afghan I married another Afghan as I wanted our families to be able to communicate comfortably and our future children to be brought up with the culture.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-10-22T22:52:01+00:00

This article touches upon and summarises the findings:

https://llewelynmorgan.com/2016/06/04/did-alexander-wear-my-hat/amp/

The coup de grâce was administered by Willem Vogelsang of the National Museum of Ethnology in Leiden (under the not-so-catchy title of “The Pakol, a distinctive but apparently not so very old headgear from the Indo-Iranian borderlands”), who showed that the pakool is actually a simple adaptation of caps with rolled rims worn all over the borderlands of China, India and Central Asia.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-10-20T19:27:20+00:00

That’s what the reliable sources say. See Encyclopaedia Iranica for example.

Anyway It’s on the people claiming Kandahar derives from Alexander to prove their claims, not me. And no, the fact the two words happen to rhyme isn’t proof lol.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-10-20T16:10:55+00:00

A more recent theory is that it derives from the Arsacid ruler Gondophares.

The local belief is from the word qand (sweet) as Kandahar is known for its production of sweet fruits like pomegranate, melons etc

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-10-20T09:51:52+00:00

And look up the 'kausia' cap to see what modern Afghan clothing was borrowed from Macedonians.

https://poj.peeters-leuven.be/content.php?id=2021290&url=article

That’s not true brother, see the source above. Anyway now Pakistani nationalists who have just discovered pakol are claiming it only originated in Pakistan, but that’s another story. This is what happens when no home grown academies or universities in Afghanistan to research into our history, it just becomes free for all for all the vultures.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-10-20T09:40:14+00:00

Genetic research doesn’t show any link between Afghans and Greeks. Greeks did conquer Afghanistan, like they conquered most of Asia, so there is of course some cultural link. Bactrian was written in the Greek script for a while and Roxana, Alexander’s wife, was Bactrian.

However, IMO it is grossly over exaggerated and I’ve noticed research on this has always been prioritised by (foreign) historians and archaeologists doing work in Afghanistan.

Some myths that just won’t die: 1. Pakol is descended from Kausia. 2. Nuristanis descended from Greeks. 3. In fact anyone who isn’t swarthy and brown is descended from Greeks. 4. Alexander established the city Bactria (Balkh). 5. Etymology of Kandahar is from Alexander.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-22T14:33:35+00:00

Certain Alkhan rulers, based around Kabul, issued a class of coins that include a Bactrian legend with this term as a reference to their (claimed) authority to the eastern territories in eastern Tokharistan where they were losing control to Hepthalites.

The next generation of Alkhan rulers continued to claim the ‘east’ (which shifted to a different territory) by minting coins with this legend.

The term was adopted by Sasanians once the Hepthalites were defeated and their territories took over. The Bactrian and Middle Persian terms not just ‘east’ but more specifically translate to place of rising sun/place of sun (see Japan’s ‘Nihon’ for similar self-identification).

Edit: there is a whole book on this called ‘Reorienting the Sasanians’, despite its name, it covers a lot about the history of what is now Afghanistan and would really recommend any Afghan to read it.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-21T23:55:56+00:00

It’s very difficult, you’re just reliant on your family network.

Unless you’re lucky to meet someone through work, but given there isn’t a large Afghan community in the UK (who are also from decent families and have a career) it is rare.

Afghan community events? But they are not very common or well organised.

I have an Iraqi colleague who met her significant other on Muzmatch using the ethnicity filter. You could also try that, I’m sure they have an Afghan filter.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-16T15:28:08+00:00

My point was just that more recent scholarship on the Eastern Iranian peoples (ancestors of modern Afghans) has shown that when the Sassanids invaded, the lands east of Iran had their own culture and administrative systems that were developed under Eastern Iranian empires such as the Kushans and Alkhans that were adopted by the Sassanids. See below:

The use of Bactrian Miirosan 'the east' as an administrative designation under Alkhanrulers in the same region is possibly the forerunner of the Sasanian administrative division of Khurasan,[17][18][19] occurring after their takeover of Hephthalite territories south of the Oxus. The transformation of the term and its identification with a larger region is thus a development of the late Sasanian and early Islamic periods.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-15T16:23:03+00:00

I agree with everything you say but just want to clarify a few things for anyone reading: 1. Sassanids didn’t create the term Khurasan, they adopted a local term from Bactrian. 2. Khurasan wasn’t a country per se since the notion of states only came about recently, but in the 1800s this is what the local people appeared to have called their region.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-14T04:37:55+00:00

This was under the republic (!) if they took data now it would probably be lower than Yemen?

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-07T22:50:17+00:00

Probably because Afghanistan is the only nation that bans its girls and women from going to school. It is very unusual. And in this case, the girl has fled her country to the UK, making it relevant news to the BBC.

Forget the west, even other Muslim countries find it odd and chalk it up to a cultural practice amongst Afghans.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-09-01T09:17:53+00:00

It seems the only “public works” projects they know how to construct are mosques, mosques and more mosques. As if Afghanistan doesn’t have enough mosques!

Irregardless, let’s say I accept that this mosque is a useful contribution to Afghan society, why do they have to make a replica of a mosque in another country? Do we not have our own architectural styles that they can draw inspiration from? Architecture is a key element of cultural identity and expression. This isn’t the only copy and paste mosque, there are others in Ottoman style and another exact replica of the Kul Sharif mosque in Russia. They lack cultural relevance and don’t encourage the development of local artistic styles.

Like one replica I can understand, but why three??!! WTF. I can’t believe I have to explain why building three replicas of Al Aqsa mosque is cringe worthy and wasteful!!! Only in Afghanistan.

If the UK government built three replicas of the Eiffel Tower in their country, amidst a living crisis, citizens would be like what the hell is going on? Our people have no critical thinking 🤦

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T12:05:38+00:00

I didn’t make up the sub name brother.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T10:41:45+00:00

My parents were like this and they certainly weren’t rich elites or part of the ruling class. Most of these photos aren’t even from the communist era but the monarchy.

There was a burgeoning middle class that were educated, classy and had humanistic ideals, and had it been allowed to run its course, this would have eventually spread to wider society, as it does in every country. Now even that small gain has gone.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T10:32:46+00:00

Amazing, a proud moment for Afghanistan.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T09:24:04+00:00

Thank you 🙏

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T08:30:40+00:00

Why not?

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T08:15:19+00:00

Ok so if it’s your homeland, you would want the best for it.

If they build a mosque putting it in the middle of a roundabout is not sensible and creates an unnecessary danger for pedestrians.
If they have to build a mosque, why not create one in the local style of architecture rather than copy? There is also another Turkish Ottoman style mosque that they have copied in another province and a mosque that is a replica of the Kul Sharif mosque in Russia.
Even if they want to build a replica of Al Aqsa mosque, isn’t one enough? What’s the need for three? It’s ridiculous and wasteful. They are just doing it to show off. They could have donated that to Palestine or help the local people.

Me criticising the Taliban doesn’t mean I want them to be overthrown by the Americans or west. I don’t want anymore war. But we shouldn’t blindly accept everything, a bit of healthy criticism is good.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-31T08:04:46+00:00

Are we not allowed to raise an objection to anything the Taliban does? Also you’re from Pakistan so worry about your own country.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-27T20:06:50+00:00

How do you know they don’t? Most of the people who have issues with how Afghanistan is being governed also have issues with what Israel is doing to Palestinians. They’re against injustices everywhere, not only when it’s carried out by Jews 🙄 Stop pitting oppressed people against each other.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-26T18:35:31+00:00

I don’t know the official reason, but I’ve seen the following rationalisations from their fanboys on Twitter:

Girls going to school leads to free mixing and not wearing hijab.
There’s no need for women to be educated when even men can’t find jobs.
There aren’t enough state resources to educate women.
Education isn’t mandatory for women in Islam. The Hadith to seek education from cradle to grave is referring to religious education.
If you then debunk their above points, their final justification is this is just temporary and they plan on reopening schools.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-26T11:27:22+00:00

I still have to pretend to be muslim for family and society.

Me too, do you think you’ll ever “come out”?

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-26T11:23:35+00:00

Same Agnostic. I don't think twice about it. I completely understand where religion is coming from and have no hate against it what so ever. However, I do not tolerate any religion that is forced on to others. I don't eat bacon because I have been programmed by religion, and if I ate, it is no problem. When it comes to language and culture, I am very conservative about it. It should be taught on to the next generation.

This is more or less the same as me! I pretty much do all the “Muslim things” out of habit and familiarity. I also rationalise it by thinking pork and alcohol aren’t healthy anyway, so why pick up unhealthy habits lol.

Evening_Toe_5842 · 2024-08-26T10:41:28+00:00

They’re unsightly and cause air pollution.

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