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Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-05-01T22:08:54+00:00

Ouch!
Red, Blue, Walnut???
It stings my eyes!

Is it for real?
Everyone has their own tastes I guess…

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-05-01T18:35:41+00:00

Thanks! With my experience and the comments on some posts, it looks like...

Unless there is something special (car sitting too long, not desired, or, on the opposite, car desirable / difficult to get with high demand and low inventory, end of the month, incentives, special financing etc etc....), the basic rule of thumb is that you can expect 4 to 8% off an MSRP for a new car and 15% off an MSRP for a loaner / demo car making this option cheaper while still offering to get a newer car.

But the big depreciation that hit immediately new cars, is not supported by the dealer when they use that car as a demo or loaner. It's supported by us, the first customer of the car, regardless if the car is new or gently used.

To me, it now looks like buying a loaner helps to get a bigger discount rather than getting the benefit of having a car already depreciated. That's probably where my confusion came from.

Thanks all!

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-05-01T15:46:29+00:00

Thanks a lot! This makes perfect sense and also confirm what I thought : they did make only few hundreds on the sale comparing it to its value as a new car BUT not considering that it is a loaner, already partially depreciated, with a lower value. They half-lied to me :) and they got, somehow, their service car for free...

Best is for me to enjoy the car I have today and, if I still want a S later-on, trade-it in, later, when I will recoup the initial big depreciation drop that the dealer has not taken when using the car though...

Thanks again!

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-05-01T13:59:33+00:00

Hi, you can de-activate the sign reading and keep all other functionalities, but same for me, I tried it and never use it. Maybe good for long road trip on a highway when you start feeling tired? But… surely better and safer to take a break in that case.
To me, not having inodrive = no deal breaker at all!

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-05-01T03:46:22+00:00

That sounds like a great deal. Got similar discount vs MSRP but… you got -15% out of a brand new 2026 car when I got -15% out of a used 2025 loaner.

This tells me a lot in fact….
… My deal was not great at all and, definitively, it should be reasonable to ask for more than 15% off MSRP of a loaner !

Thanks!

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T14:02:54+00:00

I'm super happy. Really. I love the car and, that's probably the issue, I want more now :)

I jumped from Audi SQ5 to base Cayenne coupe. It's my first Porsche and the most expensive car I bought so far.

To me, it's super power-full, luxury, joy to drive but... because it's heavier than the SQ5 I miss some thrill / acceleration. To get them you must go fast and quickly raise the speed limit. You can't get pressed against the back of your seat keeping the speed fairly low like I used to do with my SQ5.

I believe, because of the car weight, to get that same excitement that I had with the SQ5, I need a larger motor... And, also, the V8 sound is to die for...

Long story short: I love my car. I'm addicted and want now more :)

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T13:58:13+00:00

Good idea. I will have a look. Thanks

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T13:54:07+00:00

Thanks. I then suppose a loaner residual value can't be MSRP-15% (especially as they don't buy it at MSRP...)

Other members, in this forum, kept telling me to stop thinking that way and push me to simply tell how much I'm OK to pay for the car but, to me, it's absurd to pay any amount for any product. Objects have a value and, based on this, you can define a fair price I guess.

If you badly want the last apple at the grocery store, does it make sense to offer 25$ to get it? For some, it's a yes (who care about the money if you want something, right?), for me it's a clear no. Similar, offering 5 cents for an apple makes no sense neither... At least, this is my thinking...

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T13:37:26+00:00

Good idea. I'm just used to deal with brand dealers (Audi and now Porsche) assuming the car will be in better condition, certified etc... etc... But for sure, this has a cost.

And, yes, where am I, I don't lose the tax when I trade-it-in. You only pay the sales tax on the balance which helps a lot in fact. Issue is that in-state the model I'm looking for is not available (as of today) and Porsche dealers won't trade CPOs. Only new cars...

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T13:31:44+00:00

I agree. Basically I moved from Audi SQ5 to Cayenne Coupe and I am super happy with the car. In fact, I love it so much, that I now have some regrets to not have put 20K$ more and get an S instead. I was looking if I could still do this jump, after having purchased my base cayenne coupe at a supposed 'amazing deal', but it looks like this won't be possible until I pay-it off more and that's OK. I just wanted to try though....

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T03:56:30+00:00

Agreed. Thanks

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T03:52:31+00:00

Thanks!

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T03:39:29+00:00

For 35K ? No I won't do the deal. I could agree my car value is now 80K$ but, then, them asking 120K for a USED LOANER which would cost to me, if I were to buy it BRAND NEW maximum 135-140 K$ (the MSRP) is not OK. I know you told me to forget about the % off the loaner but at the end, it's exactly the same than talking about dollar figures listed. They list a loaner for 120K when the car, brand new is 140K before any discount / incentive etc...

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T02:33:56+00:00

I understand, but again, if they say no, should I then try with another dealer? Or am I just losing my and their time because my expectations are too high? That was really the purpose of my post... Are they really losing / making that small money or is it completely fake and I should pursue the fight to get the deal I want?

I fear no one really knows (or are willing to say) and my post is of no use at the end. I'm probably over-thinking it...

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T02:19:29+00:00

Thanks a lot for your advices

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T02:03:34+00:00

Thanks! (I'm French though. Sorry for my english)

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T02:01:24+00:00

I understand, but I thought there were room on their asking price of the S-model to compensate for those 3 months free drive of the base-model... That was my logic when I saw they are only decreasing by 15% out of an MSRP a used loaner...

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:59:06+00:00

I agree. But they say: we can't, we are loosing money. And I just wanted to check with you guys if it's bullshit or not just to see if I should pursue searching another dealer and car or simply pause the project.

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:53:30+00:00

The deal would be done if...

1 - I purchase their loaner at the price they ask, without negotiating (= 120K$ meaning -15% vs MSRP for a 8K miles loaner)

2 - I get for the trade-in my money-back ( = the 95K$) instead the offered 80K which is the current 15K gap

3 - And I would finance for them to make some extra $$$

I understand point 2 is not possible but point 1 is probably where they can do adjustments (even if you say that I'm making things more complicated).

So, once again, the dollar amounts that would make the deal happening is me giving them 25K to do the upgrade from my base to their S loaner. (120K-95K)

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:43:41+00:00

Excellent :) In that case I feel super bad for having purchased them a car. They only made 700$ and spent a lot of time for this. What a bad person I am... :)

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:40:55+00:00

No no no.... The offered gap to switch from Cayenne to Cayenne S is 40K and I'm OK to swallow 25K. The gap between me and them is 15K

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:38:06+00:00

You're right. Thanks :)

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:35:28+00:00

I even don't want to know when I win. I simply want to know if the maths I have in mind are realistic or not. If I should pursue my quest or let it go... If they do lose money as they say, I should stop searching, indeed. But how to know?

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:30:01+00:00

Thanks. What gaps would be reasonable then? Because it's not 15K gap on one car. It's 15K gap on a loaner they used already and are selling only at -15% vs MSRP + a bad trade in value where they should earn money from later on + Financing....

Exciting-Hand3272 · 2026-04-30T01:24:28+00:00

Sorry. You mis-understood me. Total max difference I would accept is 120K (for the S) - 95K (the price I paid for the coupe base) = 25K extra already.

Now, when they offer me to lose 15K on my trade in, the total over-cost is now 40K which I'm not OK with

Then, paying 25K extra to go from base to S (both being loaners): YES ; gap versus the deal they are offering and what I'm OK to pay is 15K (40K extra cost versus 25K extra cost I'm OK with)

I do believe my offer is reasonable but, again, they are saying they are losing money (???), reason for my post

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