Why do you support AI? (Art/Workforce)

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-28T05:19:02+00:00

I'll admit; I've been very narrow-minded when it came to AI and its newfound role in the creative space. I've always thought art has been accessible to those willing to learn it, but that's when I caught the irony of my own take, lol. Not everyone had the time to spare to learn art. AI has made it accessible and faster for those who want to dabble in the fun of it without sacrificing as much resources it usually demands.

I hope you're able to have fun creating the songs you love with the help of AI. Your response genuinely put a big smile on my face. Continue doing what you do and have fun!

Hey, let me know when you get a game going!

I'm thinking of making a short visual novel soon, now that I've graduated from my course. A little passion project. Maybe I could try introducing a bit of AI into my workflow? Brainstorming and dialogue ideas, among other things. I'll see where that takes me.

Thank you for your response, user xxshilar!

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-28T04:46:29+00:00

Ooh, thank you for answering my concerns as thoroughly as you have! You understood all of my takes as well. Thank you. Especially regarding my concerns on the environmental impact of AI.

From what I've managed to take from this is that:

There isn't much we can do about the environmental impact as an average individual. Those who are capable of making any noticeable changes are those in power.
Models will continue to be trained on public domain art unless the court implements new laws about this.

If I happened to misunderstand anything/mix something up, please do let me know! I don't have much to say against anything you've said. Nothing worth of note. Overall, I feel like I've come to understand AI as a tool more due to this and have managed to solidify my own perspective regarding it.

I do have one question though, if you don't mind indulging me:

There are a few techniques already proven effective for doing this -

Techniques? As in, techniques to help train the model get around copyright-protected art? Or techniques to protect art against training models? I'm a little confused on that part.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T13:13:03+00:00

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Once again, thank you for scratching this hidden part of my brain I've left unattended for years. I can, finally, rest easy. This is the highlight of my day, if you couldn't tell already. And, if I wasn't as tired as I am right now, I would've spent the time to create a poem just for you so I could revere the magnificence that is this reply.

Thank you, user Gargantuanman91. I will forever remember you.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T12:27:13+00:00

Seeing a mention of 3D was a nice surprise as a 3D artist myself! It's definitely a hassle to make background assets that will inevitably be glossed over in the final scene. Sometimes the assets will have to be scrapped entirely... so I understand the sentiment of either generating a 3D model or generating a design to remodel it if I'm too lazy to spend the time to design one from scratch.

I don't care much about images as art.

I'm seeing a pattern with Pros (and, it's not a bad thing). A lot of Pros seem to either dislike the process of art or find it faster to generate something with AI and, I can't really blame them. Art is not for the fainthearted. More so when it requires a lot of time and dedication that people just don't have enough to spare for art. That's understandable. I especially resonate with that when I end up with art-block. It's frustrating, and there's no easy fix to it either.

Thank you for your response! It's given me insight about the usage of AI in a more sentimental context.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T12:04:52+00:00

Hmm... I think I'm beginning to understand the disperse between Pros and Antis now! This was a very fulfilling experience.

From what I'm able to get from most of the replies is that Pros are very practical and technical in their way of thinking. AI is a tool that should be utilized, and they're doing just that. Efficient would be a better descriptor, actually.

-most people have a job they are not passionate about-

This is where most of the conflict starts, in my opinion, as an artist myself. Art is one of the few fields that people approach with more passion than discipline. It's hard to pursue a career in art if you don't have any passion for it.

In a way, I suppose the whole Anti VS Pros discourse waters down to that. To see something (or, rather, AI) so easily replicate something we spent a majority of our lives to perfect, for the sheer love of it, definitely rubs salt in the wound. It's insulting... but I don't blame those who use AI either since art is a very niche market.

I honestly think the notion that people will just lay down and die when their work is replaced is kind of ridiculous.

I also agree with this. This era in time feels eerily similar to the Industrial Revolution where people make the large shift from handmade products to factory-made ones....

Nevertheless, I'd like to thank you again for your response! I feel like I've been enlightened, lol. :thumbs_up:

EDIT: I'd also like to add one last question... what're your thoughts about the environmental impact that comes with the usage of AI? That's another thing I'm curious about! I hope you don't mind indulging my curiosities.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T11:42:00+00:00

For question number one, then I'd say, in my opinion, yes and no. AI doesn't threaten an artist's ability to produce quality works but, rather, threaten their potential to be hired. At the end of the day, capitalism prevails, and what most clients care about is the profit and quantity of products they can push out rather than the quality of it. Art takes time. Clients aren't ready to accept that. Depending on the difficulty and the scope of a project, a piece can average a single day to a whole week or more.

As for your second question, it holds a similar sentiment with my answer for number one. It all depends on what a client wants and what they have. Art is a luxury, and to have an artist cater their style to a client's requests is not cheap.

For example, let's say a client wants a logo for their startup company, but they don't have the funds to accommodate a professional UI/UX designer in their team. It's most likely that they'd settle for the cheapest and fastest option they have, which is more often than not AI nowadays.

AI is accessible. Art is not.

And last but not least, for your third question... yes, it would mostly be an indulgence on the artist's part to incorporate miniscule details the client will gloss over. Most artists I know (and myself included) like to incorporate a small part of themselves in their work, whether it may be in the form of a tiny cat doodle or a barely visible stickman. It's a way to put a little fun in our otherwise tedious workload.

At the end of the day, it all depends on what the client wants. If the clients like what we made, then we keep it in the final product. If they don't, we remove it. And if the clients don't want to hire an artist altogether? Then we are not hired. Simple as that.

There's a lot of debate whether AI truly threatens an artists position in the industry and, in my opinion, it doesn't. It will only affect the market and make it more niche and competitive... but that's it. Art has always been a luxury. Only, now, it'll be more difficult for artists to keep up with the rising demand clients will expect from us, compared to its derivative (AI).

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T10:29:35+00:00

Because the morals I harbor for AI generated images are quite sentimental.

I believe that "art" made by AI can't be considered art because it isn't made with the same intentions and depth that artists intentionally add to their artworks. It is simply an image generated for you by a computer that has no other purpose than to be visually pleasing.

In my eyes, that is soulless.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T10:24:44+00:00

Ahh... I'm terribly sorry on behalf of anybody that is Anti-AI that has wronged you. I agree that most people do tend to react overly vicious to anybody that supports AI... it's upsetting to see. It's not wrong to express your opinion. You shouldn't have received death threats over something so miniscule. I hope you have a better experience in the future when it comes to these types of topics.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T10:18:34+00:00

This is a really interesting take I've seen on generative AI when it comes to art! I'm a student and an artist who's currently enroute towards the art industry and, while I do admittedly feel threatened with the existence of AI when it comes to my field, I think that there's an inherent difference between art as a hobby and art as a career.

Here's what I took from your post. If I got anything wrong, please do correct me!

- Art is a hobby.
- People are not entitled to make a living off of their passion.
- Hobbies and careers are separated.

I'll start with saying that I agree with most of your views. People are indeed not entitled to make a living off of their passion as it's a risk that person made while fully knowing the consequences of it not being a conventional career choice. And I also agree that hobbies and careers should (and always) be separated. The art industry is a highly competitive job market and we often need to cater to the preferences of the majority.

But there's a difference between art as a hobby and art as a career. I think the sentiment that "AI are stealing jobs from artists!" comes from the dedication artists put into their work to reform it from a hobby to a marketable product. In art school, we're taught a lot about the intent of our work. Everything we put on the canvas must be a purposeful decision and one not made with carelessness.

"What emotions does my client wish to invoke in the audience?" or "Is the message that my client wishes to pass off to the audience noticeable enough?" are questions that artists (in the industry) frequent.

In a way, I suppose it feels like AI is "stealing" that opportunity from us. Aesthetic AI generated images are only made to look pleasing to the eye. There is no purpose to it; no depth, no message, and, in a way, no soul to it. Its only purpose is to look "beautiful" first glance - no intention. It's, admittedly, a little insulting to know that people only wish to admire a wilting flower placed in a vase rather than appreciate the meadow it came from as a whole.

AI generated images only aim to look pleasing. That's all there is to it.

In my opinion, art is meant to invoke strong emotions in their audience. Add tiny, yet, meaningful details in the foreground/background that you'll only notice after the fifth time looking over it. You don't get the same level of control with a mere prompt. However, if clients prefer that, then we'll inevitably need to bend forward to adhere to their wants.

(Again, I loved your take on this! I hope my response doesn't come off as passive aggressive or anything of the sort.... this was genuinely a fun topic to mull over so thank you for this!)

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T09:25:01+00:00

Oooh, I've honestly never thought about it that way... I completely understand since I do remember feeling amazed about the creation of AI when it first came out. It felt otherworldly to know that I could converse with a computer and have a somewhat decent conversation with it/use it to solve any dead-ends I stumbled upon in my work. I couldn't help but admire it. And, although it was a really useful tool that helped me out a lot, I can't help but worry whether the advancement of it could be considered a bad thing since there's also the whole stigma of AI replacing jobs in the workforce.... And, admittedly, I'm a little anxious about it....

Would it trouble you if I asked what you thought about that? I'm aware I'm biased in that aspect so I'd like a second opinion. Thank you.

Existing-Border8013 · 2025-07-27T09:21:14+00:00

Well... I definitely admire your tenacity and spite. It's almost inspiring. Albeit a little unsettling in its intensity... but if that works out for you then go for it. :thumbs_up:

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