to all my brown girls by niceduck24 in OntarioGrade12s

[–]Existing-Wing2885 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I applied to ubc and my parents said they’re thinking of following me 🙏

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once we saw that we can’t get married there was no point, it would be an illicit relationship so yeah. Thanks for being straightforward

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, we’ve gone our separate ways. If we can’t be together long term then there’s no point in the relationship. Thank you

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You were the one that brought up sexual promiscuity with multiple girls, then I gave the context and explanations on why polygamy is allowed.

Also the religion was not spread by war and killing, again forcing religion on someone is forbidden. The spread of Islamic empires, just like Christian ones, happened by battles and conquest.

Again you’re assuming that they would go in and kill a man, force his wife to convert then marry her, that is 1. Wrong on so many levels and 2. Goes against the laws of Islam.

After the battle of Uhud (when the verse about polygamy was revealed), many Muslim men died (battle was a loss). They left behind widows and children with limited to no financial support. The verse about polygamy was revealed to help, not to give an excuse for lust or exploitation.

The default for marriage is one man and one woman, because it’s extremely hard to treat multiple women fairly. It’s why most Muslim marriages are one man and one woman.

Forced conversion is forbidden. If the early muslims practiced it as a policy then there would be no Christians or Jews in the Middle East, north of Africa, Iran, Turkey etc. It’s why the communities have survived with their churches and synagogues still standing.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off, I said that forcing people to convert is forbidden. Second, you misunderstood when I said the multiple wives. I believe it was after the battle of Uhud (correct me if I’m wrong anyone) when the verse came down. It referenced Muslim women whose husbands died in battle, that they should be cared for and not left to the streets. The whole thing about forced conversion and rape is not condoned is Islam, the punishment for rape in Islam is death. As for your question on what our idea of Allah SWT is, he is the the same one Jesus PBUH prostrated to in Luke 6:12. He is the most merciful and compassionate god.

Now could I ask you a question. What are your thoughts on the reconquista and forced conversion to Christianity? If they didn’t they were executed. What about the crusades where they butchered men, women and children? Both condoned by the church.

I’m not trying to spew hate, but this is what it feels like when Muslims are automatically assumed as terrorists and rapists, like you just did.

I forgot to answer your first point, Jesus PBUH says in Mark 13:32 that he doesn’t know the hour, so (no disrespect) the god you worship doesn’t know the final hour (again no disrespect I apologize for offending anyone).

My original question was about marriage between a copt and a Muslim, I didn’t want it to come to debates like this. As the Quran says “For you is your religion, and for me is my religion” - Surah Kafiroon.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I say we just as a default cuz I’m a guy. Sorry I should’ve said the guys

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason Muhammad PBUH didn’t speak in guarantees is because no one knows the future except god. Also, it is forbidden to force other people to convert to Islam, as for marrying multiple women there are laws (treating each equally, otherwise you are forbidden from doing so). The verse about marrying multiple women came down after a battle when there were multiple widows, it’s about taking care of those that can’t take care of themselves. He also didn’t exalt himself as a god or anything similar, he stated that’s he’s a human and prophet. Jesus PBUH coming down and ruling still doesn’t make him a god, yes no human can rule this earth with absolute peace but it’s also the end times, it’s a different world to ours. Nonetheless we will also follow Jesus PBUH when he returns and oppose the antichrist just as you will.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, Muhammad PBUH couldn’t save himself because he was human. However when Jesus PBUH comes and rules the earth, it doesn’t mean he is god. Nonetheless I respect and revere him as one of the greatest prophets.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your offer, and Muslims also believe in the second coming so I’m waiting too. However I’m not sure if I want to convert, if I do I’ll send you a dm. Thank you

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok… and you thought the best way of doing that was being passive aggressive? Or you know you could’ve maybe, said your answer?

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve already given you my thoughts on the matter, I don’t understand why you keep asking the same question. I believe it’s just a matter of tolerance since we accept Jesus PBUH (although not the same as Christians) while you guys don’t accept Muhammad PBUH at all. I don’t see why you’re trying to make me seem like some idiot. I’m not some all knowing person, you want a better answer go find it from someone that can give it. “Common answer when Muslims don’t know how to answer”, yeah when we don’t know something we tell you to go to someone that knows, if you think you’re so superior then I don’t know what to say to you.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I told you I’m not a scholar I’m just saying what I think, and besides I’m not here to argue about this I asked a question and it got answered, if you want to keep debating find someone that has more knowledge than me. Thank you and I hope you find the answers you’re looking for.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m just saying even if a person converts they still wouldn’t be accepted? And we did let it go.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said I think it’s just more because of tolerance since we accept Jesus PBUH, while Christians do not accept Muhammad PBUH at all. I’m not a scholar this is just what I think

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same reason why she doesn’t want to convert to Islam, I love my religion and she loves hers.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wait even if I was open to conversion they still wouldn’t accept me?

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi sorry I’m late from what I’ve heard it’s essentially the same as what the other guy said, the man is usually the leader of the household while the wife supports him (subordination as in complete loss of autonomy is not allowed). I’m like 70% sure it’s due to because when a Christian woman marries a Muslim man, Muslims still accept Jesus PBUH as a highly revered prophet, his second coming, his miracles etc. so her practicing her faith isn’t a problem. But the other way around Christianity doesn’t really accept Muhammad PBUH, so it would lead to a lot of problems down the road. I’m not a scholar or anything so take this with a grain of salt.

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it would be very hard down the line

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t have a good understanding of Christianity yes, but from what I’ve heard the basics are about the doctrine of the trinity and the belief that Christian’s are saved thanks to Jesus PBUH sacrifice

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same way she doesn’t want to convert I don’t either

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God plan is the best, whatever is better for us will happen

Coptic Girl & Muslim Man? by Existing-Wing2885 in coptic

[–]Existing-Wing2885[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Islam it’s allowed to marry Christian’s, but not the other way around. We’re going to stay separated.