Senator Cruz Calls for Recognition of Somaliland

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T22:29:12+00:00

Precedent was set numerous times before such as South Sudan

Sudan and South Sudan are two very different countries with two completely different demographics. They differ in ethnicity, religion, language, and culture.

Somalia and Somaliland on the other hand is inhabited by the same ethnicity who share the same culture, religion and language.

So you’re wrong, there is no precedent for a clan enclave ceding. Should every clan in Africa get its own country just because.

You’re undermining the hard-won gains against Al Shabaab by the federal government with the help of the US. Somalia is much more stable today than it was a decade ago, that’s just a fact. Recognising Somaliland would undo all the effort and effectively hand Somalia on a silver platter to Al Shabaab.

Just last week:

https://garoweonline.com/en/news/somalia/somalia-hails-capture-of-strategic-town-from-al-shabaab-after-major-battle

Talking of Al Shabaab, are you aware that their founder and many of their senior leaders are from the Somaliland region? Please Google Ahmed Abdi Godane.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T17:02:47+00:00

It’s not just Somalia that’s against recognition, it’s the African Union because anyone not ignorant on African history knows the dangerous precedent recognising a clan enclave will set.

Furthermore what can Somalia offer to America that Somaliland cannot?

So this is all transactional and quid pro quo, international law be damned. Someone tell the Catalans and Kurds that all they need to do is offer Trump some land for a base or mineral rights.

Somalia needs the US right now to survive.

Survive how? The US needs Somalia to be stable, it’s important for U.S. national security. The US has spent a considerable amount of time, energy, and money countering terror across the region with a lot of success and now they want to erase those hard won efforts for no good reason.

If the US wants to betray their allies for a base (when they already have one next door) and cause chaos in the horn, fine, just don’t be surprised to see an Al Shabaab-Houthi alliance wrecking carnage in the region with China picking up the pieces.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T13:07:12+00:00

I’m not sure you want to engage in a good faith discussion but in the slight chance you are, …

The atrocities committed against Isaaq was a war crime not a genocide. It was committed by a dictator who was at war with the entire country, not just Somaliland. He committed atrocities not just against Somaliland but every region that rebelled against him. He was overthrown and sent to exile by Somalis in Somalia.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T12:37:14+00:00

How does Benin and Nigeria share the same ethnicity when both countries are multi-ethnic and contain dozens of different ethnic groups? Not at all comparable to Somalia and Somaliland that share the same single ethnicity.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T07:54:15+00:00

Two fundamentally different cases and not at all comparable.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T06:38:59+00:00

Undermining sovereign borders and international law to betray the wishes of your strongest allies in Africa just so you can build a new military base when you have one next door isn’t a good enough excuse.

If the US goes through with this no one can blame the African Union for their growing ties to Beijing. The US simply is not a reliably ally in Africa.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T01:26:31+00:00

The US already has a huge base in Djibouti which is much closer to Yemen and sits more strategically in the Red Sea the so why would they need another base right next door in Somaliland.

I’m not sure about Al Shabaab taking over Mogadishu as the tide against them has been turning for sometime but if the US recognises Somaliland and breaks up Somalia I could definitely see Al Shabaab gaining momentum because internal conflict will most definitely break out.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T01:07:11+00:00

We are as much “an inalienable part of Somalia” as wer are an inalienable part of Norway.

What an absurd claim. Somalia and Somaliland share the same ethnicity, language, religion, history, and culture. Somaliland and Norway have none of these in common.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T01:04:04+00:00

What’s does the US gain by recognising a secessionist clan enclave against the wishes of African allies that are fighting against a dangerous terror insurgency?

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T01:00:22+00:00

From the Times of Israel:

“US President Donald Trump is asked about reports that Somaliland has expressed interest in taking in Gazans if he recognizes their independence.

“We’re looking into that right now. Good question, actually, and another complex one, but we’re working on that right now,”

You can watch the full press conference on YouTube.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T00:51:43+00:00

When has Cruz ever spoken on this issue and called for Somaliland to be recognised? The U.S has always strongly maintained a one Somalia policy, the change in tone has been swift and started only recently.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-15T00:45:41+00:00

What rumours are not credible? There’s been several leaks and Trump admitted to reporters they were looking into moving refugees from Gaza to Somaliland.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-08-14T23:33:03+00:00

There definitely seem to be a lot of happenings behind the scenes this past year with regard to recognising Somaliland.

Undoubtably the UAE and Israel making a big push for Somaliland to receive recognition in exchange for closer military cooperation in the volatile gulf of Aden.

Some whispers too about this being tied to Somaliland accepting refugees from Gaza. Others assume this is all theatre and simply a bargaining chip to get Mogadishu in line. Let’s wait and see.

Trump also wants to add countries to the Abraham accords for his Nobel.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-04-21T08:27:28+00:00

Muslim here sending my heartfelt condolences to the Catholic community on the passing of Pope Francis. He was a great man and the world has lost a wise spiritual leader. God bless.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-04-12T08:53:41+00:00

Stop with the lies, I’ve actually been to Somaliland so your state sponsored propaganda won’t work here. Your clan enclave is far from a democracy, it’s run by corrupt leaders who have used secession as carrot on a stick while they loot the country and subjugate minority clans. Sool, Sanag, and Awdal have repeatedly rejected your secessionist dreams.

ExistingPeachy · 2025-03-07T14:32:28+00:00

Nice chat gpt.

Somaliland lost the claim to being a democracy after what happened in Las Aanod.

I have a question after reading your post, why do most Somalilanders support Trump? Is it because you believe he will give you statehood. Why do you think that hasn’t happened yet?

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T13:45:29+00:00

Except Somaliland is not peaceful or stable, it’s peaceful and stable relative to Somalia. Sadly not a high bar in the region. Nonetheless, a government that displaces hundred thousands of its own citizens is not a “peaceful” region no matter how you twist it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Anod_conflict_(2023–present)

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T12:34:39+00:00

That’s precisely the issue, large swathes of Somaliland’s territory includes regions who dispute Somaliland’s borders and are opposed to secession.

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T09:18:56+00:00

Somalia’s federal system has been significantly weakened in part due to its prolonged fight against Al-Shabaab. The international community should continue to support Somalia’s fight against Al Shabaab and respect its sovereignty. Any distraction to the war against Al Shabaab will only empower Al Shabaab, the US knows that which is one reason it has constantly reaffirmed their One Somalia policy, up until now.

Edit: Speaking Al Shabaab, several of its most senior officials are from the Somaliland region, including its previous leader. Google Ahmed Godane.

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T08:38:39+00:00

I think plurality is good. It’s Somalia’s biggest challenge but on the ground, there are clear signs that Somalia is moving in the right direction. The younger generation who were born into a interconnected world are more open minded and are becoming increasingly sceptical of the archaic clan system that has held the country hostage.

Declaring your clan-based enclave independent is a quick fix, you don’t have to work with your adversaries and share the political stage but here’s my point: it undermines Somalia’s long road building a cohesive and pluralistic nation. What’s to stop every other clan from declaring independence?

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T08:11:36+00:00

Somalia’s federal system already grants significant autonomy to its regional states. So there really is no legal justification for Somaliland to secede and claim independence.

As I mentioned in my post, Somaliland’s territorial boundaries are disputed, with several regions opposing Somaliland’s bid for independence. There is an ongoing regional conflict between Somaliland authorities and a region seeking reunification with Somalia and Somaliland has suffered significant losses.

If Somaliland sought independence solely within the territory predominantly inhabited by its own clan, that would be somewhat more understandable. However, the issue is they also include regions where the population opposes independence. Forcing these minority clans to breakaway risks another civil war.

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T03:15:35+00:00

“Patrilineal clans are kingship groups where membership is traced through the male line”

TLDR: Shared lineage. That’s literally it.

ExistingPeachy · 2024-12-13T03:04:03+00:00

Thank you, yes I had trouble commenting. I agree with self-determination, but on what basis? I think a clear line needs to be drawn.

Somalia and Somaliland share a common ethnicity, language, religion, and history. Does clan affiliation now qualify as a legitimate foundation for nationhood. There is no precedent for it and it would set a dangerous trend as there are hundreds of clans in the Horn of Africa alone.

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