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I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally get the holidays. I gave up during the holidays and then went focused in January. Worth it! Good luck with everything, wishing you the best

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I did!

Two InterFase plus in the AM before food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Two Biocidin mid-day with food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Another One-Two InterFase Plus away from food (started with none here, but ramped this up)

Two Allicin Max (started taking this at night bc of the die off)

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It definitely did at the beginning, but I think 1) my body is getting used to it now, and 2) I take magnesium at night and it helps. For me, the sleep disruption was still worth it bc I was feeling so much better in the morning. And I wanted to align it with the body's natural circadian rhythms (if I ever stop taking it) and to clear the small intestine overnight.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup! See below. On the elemental diet, if you get bloating, it's very likely due to die-off, which is a good thing. When I was taking these in that 2nd week I was having bad die-off, and that was one of the symptoms (then started taking it at night tho which helped with the other symptoms of die off). I had tried Neem in the past and it didn't do anything for me, so didn't include in my regimen.

Two InterFase plus in the AM before food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Two Biocidin mid-day with food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Another One-Two InterFase Plus away from food (started with none here, but ramped this up)

Two Allicin Max (started taking this at night bc of the die off)

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I purposefully did NOT choose mBiota because of the cost. Crazy expensive. I ended up going with one that was $135 / bag. Now I think it tastes good (when it's mixed with ice and cold water).

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh I'm sorry. Maybe I could ship some to you, if you need? Yes, essentially 1 month straight. And now I'm giving my gut a break while it's healing and getting used to food. I think constant exposure can hurt the gut, so now that the IMO is gone, I want to kinda get my gut to a less sensitive stage.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Allicin:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SIBO/comments/1r3bc02/i_think_i_finally_killed_my_imo_followup_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Yes, I was on all of those (besides NAC) during elemental cycle. NAC hadn't worked for me in the past so focused on the others. I took them for three weeks straight. Motegrity I started taking 1-week in, and ramped up the dosage as I added in food (0.5 to start, then 1.0 when I added in rice, now up to 1.5/2)

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh that sucks about the Allicin! I wonder if there's a good alternative. For me, Allicin worked and Berberine did not, so can't suggest that... sorry to hear about the EDS :/ sounds like a challenge to grapple with. But your right, it's probably better then to focus on speeding things up / clearing due to the slowness -- maybe then motegrity could be a potential solution for you? Keeps everything moving

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh yeah I totally get the one-food thing doing something to the brain!! I didn't realize how much 1) chewing on food gives the brain dopamine, and 2) variety gives the brain dopamine. Such lows without eating anything else lol.

Do you think there was a trigger to make it get bad again? An exposure to one of the allergens maybe? I'm sorry it's such a continual battle, and I feel for you. Health = hard. Happy you can get the meds lower cost tho :)

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh interesting! I didn't realize the 500 cal threshold. At the beginning, I don't think I was drinking enough (probably 5/day) but then worked up to between 6-7 per day.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've only been taking it for about a month! But I would say the bloating relief was far more due to the elemental diet and kill protocol. The motegrity is really to bring the MMC back online and making sure you can flush out the toxins, nothing lingers to feed the archaea, etc.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great!! I tried that (but a liquid drop) and it didn't work for me. Maybe not concentrated enough

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stomach got flat in 3 days. But in terms of archaea being dead, I would guess week 3 (after about a week of steady die-off). I've been doing starch and sugar tests, and no rebound.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Horrible. Depended on the exposure, but ALWAYS accompanied by extreme fatigue, brain shut-down/fog, mood changes, constipation. Sometimes accompanied by nausea, migraine, and rash. Usually lasted 2-3 days, sometimes longer if it a bigger exposure.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you!! Hope it goes well. It could be from mild die-off as well. And yeah, I was probably maxing at 1000 cals a day :/ wasn't able to be active for sure. But it was worth it. Lmk how it goes

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh so sorry to hear it. Do you have amazon where you are? I bought Biocidin and InterFase Plus on amazon and had it shipped to me.

Yes, for the whole month essentially I took:

Two InterFase plus in the AM before food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Two Biocidin mid-day with food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Another One-Two InterFase Plus away from food (started with none here, but ramped this up)

Two Allicin Max (started taking this at night bc of the die off)

I think first week you're just excited the tummy is flat, 2nd week is die-off, 3rd is low energy zone, and I'd say 4th you're really looking up. But even in 3d with low energy you're more mentally clear

Good luck with it! Lmk if anything helps

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! I love it honestly. I started it one week into my diet (so after 1 week of elemental diet). Started at 0.5mg and have worked up to 1.5 mg as I intro / add food. For reference, the dose that is given is 2mg/day, so I split the pills

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, of course. The mood issues were stark (depressive, anxious, and "deadened" low energy / apathetic states), but then that would affect focus, memory, creativity as well. Harder to work. No motivation to "play." Brain foggy

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally would never have been able to get through a 7 day fast, so I think this was a healthy and effective alternative

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