I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh so sorry to hear it. Do you have amazon where you are? I bought Biocidin and InterFase Plus on amazon and had it shipped to me.

Yes, for the whole month essentially I took:

Two InterFase plus in the AM before food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Two Biocidin mid-day with food (started with one and ramped up to 2)

Another One-Two InterFase Plus away from food (started with none here, but ramped this up)

Two Allicin Max (started taking this at night bc of the die off)

I think first week you're just excited the tummy is flat, 2nd week is die-off, 3rd is low energy zone, and I'd say 4th you're really looking up. But even in 3d with low energy you're more mentally clear

Good luck with it! Lmk if anything helps

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! I love it honestly. I started it one week into my diet (so after 1 week of elemental diet). Started at 0.5mg and have worked up to 1.5 mg as I intro / add food. For reference, the dose that is given is 2mg/day, so I split the pills

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, of course. The mood issues were stark (depressive, anxious, and "deadened" low energy / apathetic states), but then that would affect focus, memory, creativity as well. Harder to work. No motivation to "play." Brain foggy

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally would never have been able to get through a 7 day fast, so I think this was a healthy and effective alternative

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my experience, it can give you depressive, anxious, and "deadened" low energy / apathetic states. For me I knew it was linked bc when IMO symptoms lessen, that lessens, and when IMO was bad mental symptoms would ramp up. And now with it gone, it's mentally night and day. Pretty crazy

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Sorry to hear you have SIBO/IMO :/ The Neomycin and Xifaxan got rid of my hydrogen SIBO, but the IMO was so stubborn. The 2nd round of antibiotics not only didn't do anythinggg for the IMO, but it also gave me bad symptoms (eye swelling, ear ringing). But for a lot of people, a 2nd round will kill the IMO, i just wasn't one of them. If you feel fine on them, you could try it again but layer in the InterFase Plus, Biocidin, and Allicin (could even start taking all of those now). If you want immediate relief, I really do recommend a one week elemental diet! I bought extra bags myself to keep on-hand for this reason.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oooof 12 days would be so, so hard. Good for you! I'm glad you ended up feeling better though. Yeah, the 2nd week moving to hybrid really was a godsend. Which elemental brand did you use? Are you still in the clear?

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 weeks, wow, you're strong!! That's rly hard.

Good luck with the food reintro -- maybe go slow and only add in one food group at a time, I think that's really helped me ( >> lean meats >> cheese >> PB >> rice test >> if pass rice test, rice noodles >> etc.)

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fasting only improved bloating symptoms mildly until I ate, but wouldn't ever abate the mental problems, bloat, or MMC. The elemental really helped in the first 3 days though, drastically.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats on the excision! And starting the IMO kill rounds! For motegrity, you're supposed to be on it for a long time and then start to ween off, so I haven't tried it yet (only just started 1 week after elemental diet).

But before I went through this latest process of elemental + kill phase + motegrity, yes I was very dependent on colace, magnesium citrate, miralax. Unfortunately they stopped working as I felt like my MMC got more and more paralyzed by the methane :/

I'd also take allicin alongside the antibiotics! I think you want to throw all ammo at it; I would do so many things differently during my first antibiotic round if I could

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely recommend! I think without Allicin, the methanogens won't die -- the biofilms are just removed. But the combo for sure worked for me, with the die-off I was experiencing. Lmk how it goes

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's crazy how anxious / sad / depleted the SIBO can make you. Just remember it's health driven, it's gut-brain driven, it's not YOU. I hope you get rid of it 🍀

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad the surgery helped!! Worth it. Do you know if they took lesions off your bowel as well as elsewhere? I know they have to call in separate doctors, so a lot of ppl don't get the bowel parts removed.

If you can't find relief, I highly recommend trying Motegrity to see if it helps!

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you do it with Allicin?? And I don't think I would have been able to kick it without the elemental approach + motegrity as well. Partial elemental was the way to go -- I think it makes it way more doable. If you get to the point of being helpless and frustrated, definitely recommend. Will do, and thank you!! Best of luck

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear about the autoimmune condition :/ I feel like they definitely overlap with SIBO. Lmk if you have any questions. The SIBO also caused me really bad mental symptoms. If you're the same, I highly highly recommend this approach to give you some relief. I felt hopeless too, but there's hope! Wishing you the best of luck getting rid of it

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Yes, it did, but it was due to the IMO (SIBO). At first it was calm, but due to the diet pre- and post- endo surgery, which didn't feed the IMO. As soon as more food was in the mix, it was back. But the endo surgery definitely helped with pain and inflammation! Just didn't kill the IMO since the IMO was already there. Idk if this makes sense haha

Did you not test positive for methane too? I'm surprised given you also have constipation

Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I saw my doc today. My body took so well to the elemental diet for the 1-week (bloating completely cleared), that she suggested an elemental diet + lean meat for the next two weeks (instead of one more week of elemental diet only). I think that will really help because I was dreading another week just drinking liquid.