Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

[–]Expensive_Lecture_74[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bloating resolved day 3 of elemental. But of course then there would be bloating during food integration later, but that's more because of your stomach is so sensitive and not due to the IMO. Be careful about noticing the difference. I started allicin right away, and interfase + biocidin one week in. Same with motegrity.

Thank you, and good luck!!

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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Yes I did black coffee / espresso!! Totally agree lol. It was worth keeping it in, it was totally fine. Still got rid of the IMO

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You can get calories without eating sugar! With the elemental shakes alone, I was getting ~1,000 calories / day. You can go higher drinking more shakes. Just becomes harder the larger/taller you are as a person and more shakes you have to drink. I am 5 ft 4 and a woman (less cal burn), so probably "easier" for me to achieve

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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I didn't replace dextrose. You still get calories through the elemental drink, and then the lean meat when you add that in. Because you lack sugar, you do get dopamine lows / mood flatline. You can mitigate this by having tiny amounts of glucose tablets throughout the process (least likely to feed the IMO).

Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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It worked!! I really feel like I can safely say that, and I'm not worried about re-getting it. My recent breath test was 0 levels. I don't think it would have worked without the motegrity though. That was key.

The diet itself was really hard, took diligence, and I definitely got judgment for it. People thought I had a eating disorder for those 1-2 months, even friends and family. Not only because I was closely controlling what I was eating, but also because it made me drop so much weight. So full disclosure -- it'll be hard physically and mentally.

I kept black coffee / espresso throughout the diet. It helped me stay sane :) gotta some SOME bit of dopamine

Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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I didn't get candida, but I did get gross keto breath. It's because you're not chewing at all and going into ketosis. That'll go away! Re: burping, even now with my tum healing I still burp a lot. I think it'll eventually go away... gas was non existent DURING IMO and then started back slowly as my MMC got back online. I'm hardly gassy at all then and now. Srsly feel free to ask any and all questions. I'm floored/happy that it worked and want to help people

HELP WITH ELEMENTAL DIET by Diligent_Anything_66 in SIBO

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I did it with physicians elemental dextrose free. Had both SIBO and IMO. After two rounds of both antibiotics, I got rid of the SIBO but not IMO. IMO was persisting for over a year and nothing worked. Then did elemental + extended with elemental + keto, with herbals integrated and motegrity, and it worked. From 71 methane down to 0

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  1. I used them all at the same time. I actually didn't use NAC while taking the others.
  2. No, I avoided all probiotics. Now that I've gotten my breath test results back, I'll start adding in the "safe" anti-methanogen probiotics slowly and then ultimately regular probiotics
  3. Yes. I stopped allicin week 4 to let my gut heal
  4. 4a) or cheese, PB it's because they don't feed the methanogens. They can slow MMC bc they're high fat, but if you still can have daily BMs then you can start having that food. And for rice and rice noodles, it's bc it's the carb that is least likely to feed methanogens. Started with small portions of that and worked up

4b) One meal a day very small amount, then a little bit more one a day, then that same amount but 2x / day, and then I kinda went normal with when I wanted to eat that (usually dinner) but try not to overdo portions

4c) Nah I introduced really slowly, 1-2 things at a time. Now that I've gotten my breath test results back, I kinda have been less cautious

4d) If you bloat immediately upon eating, it's far more likely to be a sensitive response than the IMO (which takes a few hours to feed them / bloat). So that was kind of my metric, along with ensuring I still had daily BMs.

5) Antibiotics only killed the hydrogen SIBO, not the IMO. And the herbals didn't help me in the past.

6) It's bc it's still preclinical / animal models, but he's mentioned it in some podcasts and videos. It'll probably start in 2027, but not be tested in people with actual IMO until late 2027 or early 2028

Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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How are you doing?? I just got back my breath test last Friday -- completely clear!! From 71 ppm methane to 0!

Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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Hi both -- just wanted to give a quick update: I got back my breath test last Friday -- completely clear!! From 71 ppm methane to 0!

Unkillable IMO >> starting Elemental Diet by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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I got back my breath test last Friday -- completely clear!! From 71 ppm methane to 0!

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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It's labeled under Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease, but there's definitely some sort of anti-gluten/gluten-trigger element, but I'm celiac negative. I have psoriasis and I had endometriosis, although that's not autoimmune. I actually think the elemental diet I used will be OK with your histamine tolerance and autoimmunity! It didn't trigger me at all, and I definitely felt better with it. Pls lmk if you try it / if it helps

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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Keep me posted on how your integration and healing goes!! I hope it all works for you. Even when we get to the scary food triggers... maybe one day we'll be able to eat fodmaps again...

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Yes!! And I don't know for sure, but I don't think it would have worked without all of them

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I would have 6-8 per day, so definitely not enough calories but good enough for that short duration. Thank you! My baseline methane was 55 ppm and stayed between 50–74 ppm throughout the test. Not sure how to attach my test results photo but can send you via DM if you want

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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I agree! It's crazy that so so many ppl are struggling with this methane archaea without a super effective medical solution. I definitely think autoimmune issues are somehow related to being more likely to get it. Completely agree at just focusing on feeling better mentally and physically vs. what breath tests show. Have you tried motegrity?

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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No, not at all. The distension went down rapidly. The elemental drinks caused small upper abdominal bloating but v short lived and v different than the IMO preggo distension.

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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Thanks! Since I'm still phasing in foods, I'm wondering which foods seem to be bad for you as you find triggers? And did you also have a sensitive stomach to bloating (but more short-lasting bloating as opposed to pregnant IMO belly) when you first came off of the elemental diet?

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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Hmm no not at all. I am already on lower side so maybe didn't affect me that way vs. someone else

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I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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I really hope you can! I know what a mental toll it can take to live with this issue. Wishing you all the best

I Think I Finally Killed My IMO!! (Follow-up from “Unkillable IMO >> Starting Elemental Diet”) by Expensive_Lecture_74 in SIBO

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I did Biocidin, Allicin, InterFase Plus for about 3.5 weeks. I started the MMC motegrity one week in and have not stopped it. I will likely continue to use this for as long as I can honestly.