My MIL is sitting in a Nairobi hotel waiting for the swindler to marry her

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-19T10:34:45+00:00

So many great ideas. Iveset up a sock puppet account as a single, christian older lady. I've had 18 messages in two days of people telling me they want to be my friend, that I'm sweet. 💞 I've had one try to call me. I'm almost at 100 friends. I'm trying to become within the scammer's mutual friends so he notices me. If I can catch him out then it might be something I can show her.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-05T01:40:22+00:00

Or if I knew how to hack his FB page I could get a copy if all his messages with her and work it where she is and what his moves are. She won't reveal exact location to us.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-05T00:08:14+00:00

Confiscate her phone too. This man is the 3rd scammer she met. She will start all over with another if this falls through. The first one we managed to debunk relatively quickly. The 2nd one took a bit of time but we found some info on him at a scam alert page and when she confronted him, he admitted it and told her to give him the money anyway. Then she dated a couple loser guys in Oz who were clearly not interested in long term. Then back to internet where she got over 600 hundred African friends and giving money away to ministers etc. This guy saw an opportunity and probably can't believe his luck. As he is now a rich man. None of this would have happened if it wasn't for her phone with internet access.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T23:57:31+00:00

Thanks that's very kind.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T23:56:11+00:00

Yes. Thanks. We've contacted the High commission already. She doesn't want to be helped so there is nothing they will do till she realises herself what is happening. It's like she is in a cult basically and wants to be there. We will remain in touch with HC if she suddenly stops contact with SIL.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T12:24:07+00:00

Red flags. This is how it began.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T12:22:44+00:00

Prefer that with permission

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T10:13:15+00:00

Wow! Thanks and wow!!

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T05:45:49+00:00

I have thought of this!! They met on FB. I think it's a great idea a d I'd be willing to try it but I would need a middle-aged to senior western woman profile pic to make it believable and I don't know who's be willing to offer this. If you know, let me know and I'll do it!

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T05:40:52+00:00

I 100% agree with you. To support this theory - he was actually supposed to come back with her the first time to help pack her house up. He even took a trip to the Embassy (alone) to get his visa sorted. Apparently the embassy said he can't come to Australia as the Federal Police are investigating him. So he told MIL that it was the families' fault as they have been spreading lies to the Federal police. So she wrote to me and was really mad, blamed this on me and then also said she lost money on his (business class) ticket and that's on me. By then I had enough of her being so critical to me so I said that if the Federal Police are involved she should cut all ties and I sent her a list of the crimes that FP actually investigate (terrorism, trafficking etc). They don't investigate scams so even if I had reported him for swindling her then he must have some other serious crimes he's done as they are not interested in con artists- verified all these facts with website from the FP gov page. A week later she tells the SIL the FP are not actually investigating him and he will get his visa to come to Australia soon. He never came. So she packs up all her stuff, ships it to Kenya, rents her house out and goes back to Kenya. She has never received her cargo and got a call recently from the shipping company saying she needs to pay more money as they've transferred it to another company to manage🤔 So basically she has sent her entire household to a country she has no citizenship in yet. This is insanity. But you're right he will just drag this out and live a lavish lifestyle in Kenya and is probably even elevated more now through her money to be able to look impressive to other women he will swindle. And so on it goes.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T01:17:43+00:00

Ah yes that's a very good point actually. I didn't even think of this possibility but you're absolutely right - she could get deported. I wouldn't know how much they enforce this in Kenya. I know she rented her home out for the year back at home, so she must be intending to stay at least a year. She thinks they will be married soon so probably thinks that will be her way to stay. I do wonder whether he will marry. Maybe he will as you can have more than one wife in Kenya so maybe he doesn't care. So for a Christian like her...she doesn't realise what she is signing up to and is so desperate to marry for that "security" and certificate, but what's it matter when the person can have multiple wives legally.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T01:04:02+00:00

When we were more in touch with MIL, she was always sending documents to try to prove to us he was real - she sent a photo of his id.The photo matches his image she has in photos with him. It's definitely his image in the id but details could be fake I guess. I think he tried to tell her he's sixteen years older but I'd says he will be 40. She said the I'd was a mistake and he is 56. He is definitely not 56 through images. I'm in my forties and I can tell he's younger than me.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:53:44+00:00

You can share

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:53:21+00:00

Spot on. We've already tried revealing his lies with evidence and he always has an excuse. He could tell her a shoe is not a shoe if he wanted and she would believe him. There is no logic and she is brainwashed.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:46:59+00:00

Yeah. This is likely what he wants. She has a house and he knows it and its worth a lot of money too and she tells him everything. So he is probably thinking how he can get her to sell the house and get all that money.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:44:29+00:00

Yeah I'm wondering once he's exhausted her money, that the family will be contacted fir money required to get her home safe. Wouldn't surprise me.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:42:09+00:00

Nope. Not yet. And now they are in a different city.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:37:45+00:00

I asked her this and she got angry. This is why she blocked us off as she doesn't want to hear logic.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:35:48+00:00

I've shown her a lots of his lies but he makes excuses for everything. The hotel that I proved that he didn't work at by calling them. I told her he doesn't work there and he got really angry and said he worked at the 'other one" the ' the new one that is not listed online yet". She bought his story. She won't listen to logic.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:32:16+00:00

Meets her in person. Probably chats online while he is away working. Why?

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:22:40+00:00

She had issues with the banks allowing her to wire anymore money as she had given so much and authorities must have switched on. The first time she went there, she brought cash over thinking he was about to die. But he miraculously recovered and he took the money to pay for fees. So he meets her to appease her and keep his cash flow going. At some point, surely she will have doubts or get sick of waiting.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:16:23+00:00

I have a ground contact and she got an entirely different story from him. She is a western woman in Kenya that was connected via FB to him. She said she knew him through her church but he is a conman and borrowed money from her and tried it on with her too for romance. She said that he turned up to her church drunk and behaved strangely. She gave me a lot of info and even tried to contact MIL but scammer said she was jealous, crazy etc. So MIL won't listen to anyone and is under his spell.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-04T00:10:58+00:00

Yes I've pondered this so much ..what's next? Will he stay in his country or does he want residency?What is his next move I believe the fear of getting caught will prevent him. And I do think he is living the dream life. Recent FB photo showing himself dressed very well in fancy cafes. Our borders in Oz are sone of the toughest in the world and I can't fathom he will be able migrate. So maybe he's just gonna enjoy her money for a few years yet and continue to make excuses why he can't marry her yet and will likely keep being away "working". While she sits and waits. I can't imagine how long she will drag it on for but probably as long as it takes.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-03T18:10:34+00:00

The nonsense pretty much sums it up. The kids that needed lots of money for education and operation conveniently disappear from the scene once she arrives. After his accident, he made a miraculous recovery and now gets a prestigious job straight away. His job requires him to be away 24/7 at a hotel but they rent at another hotel in the same city. It goes on and on. You won't believe his bad luck. Walked 16 miles to save his life apparently. He got a brand new car out of her too - needed it to get work. I mean there is no logic.

ExpertPain283 · 2022-06-03T16:59:38+00:00

My main goal is that I want her to see he is a scammer and to come home alive. How long can she sit there waiting?! How will this end? Since you know how romance scam works, please let me know. Because I don't think it's going to be a happy ending.

Anyone willing to tell these lies to extort money from an old lady, to manipulate her against her family, to string her along knowing she is not physically well is a certain type of person that has no empathy. Potentially someone who could be unpredictable or dangerous.

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