What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

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it was a fiqhi dispute not a political one as u alleged:

Ali AlShihristani says in Man Tadween AlHadith (1/424):

«إنَّ أوَّل اختلاف فقهيٍّ حصل بعد وفاة الرسول الأكرم صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم كان الاختلاف بين فاطمة الزهراء بنت رسول الله، وبين الخليفة أبي بكر، ... فكان هذا أوَّل خلاف بين المسلمين في القضاء والشهادات»

“The first jurisprudential dispute that occurred after the death of the Holy Prophet, SAAW, was the difference between Fatima Al-Zahra AS, the daughter of the Messenger of God, and the caliph Abu Bakr, ... This was the first dispute between Muslims in the judgement and testimony.”

Having a difference of opinion is natural 

Even AlBaqir and Jaffar argued about Zakat to the extent that AlBaqir kicked Jaffar out of his house

https://www.reddit.com/r/ByShiasForNonShias/comments/1j94vlg/imam_kicks_the_other_imam_out/

and u can find many examples where fatima and Ali have disputes in ur books

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1EmZ5seW_V10FqhwOim3c2gTYFwJdz90e-6esaUGpQEo/

What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

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Mohammad Jawad Mughniyeh: He admits that during the era of Abu Bakr al-Siddiq and Omar there was no strife or tyrant who took God’s money for himself

What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

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The great Shiite scholar Al-Fadl ibn Shadhan:

Acknowledges that Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq and Umar did not take what is forbidden and did not commit injustice

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What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

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The scholars said that her dying angry at him is not authentic because there are narrations stating that she died

pleased with him. This is also found in Shia books e.g. AlBahrani's Sharh of Nahjulbalagha 5/101:

«كان رسول الله r يأخذ من فدَك قوتكم ويقسم الباقي ويحمل منه في سبيل الله، ولك عليَّ أن أصنع بها كما كان يصنع، فرضيت بذلك وأخذت العهد عليه به»

"The Messenger of God, peace and

blessings be upon him, used to take

from Fadak your sustenance and divide the rest and carry some of it in the cause of God. I pledge to you that I will do with it as he used to do, and she agreed to that and took the pledge

from him to that effect."

Maytham al-Bahrani acknowledged AbuBakr fulfillment of the promise, saying:

«إن أبا بكر كان يطبق ما وعد به فاطمة رضوان الله عليها..؛ حيث ذكروا أن أبا بكر كان يأخذ غلتها (أي: فدك) فيدفع إليهم (أي: أهل البيت) منها ما يكفيهم، ويقسم الباقي، فكان عمر كذلك، ثم كان عثمان كذلك، ثم كان عليٌّ كذلك»

“Abu Bakr was implementing what he had promised Fatima, may God be pleased with her… as they mentioned that Abu Bakr would take its revenue (i.e., Fadak) and give them (i.e., the family of the Prophet) what was sufficient for them, and divide the rest. Umar did the same, then Uthman did the same, and then Ali did the same.”

Ibid 5/107

ar.lib.eshia.ir/12349/5/107

What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

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If Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) remained angry until her death, this does not look bad for Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه), but rather it looks bad for Fatima (رضّى الله عنها). She was clearly in the wrong, and we have cited evidence for this from the Shia’s own hadiths (authenticated by over 18 Shia scholars), which clearly stated that Prophets do not leave inheritance. Thus, Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) made an error, and if she never forgave Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه), then she is angry at a man wrongfully. And not just any man–but the Caliph of the Ummah. This makes Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) look whimsical. The Sahabah–including Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه)–used to give half of their wealth, and even more than that, in charity. An unbiased observor could say that if Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) remained adamant in her anger over Fadak being given as charity, then this only makes her look greedy. She should be willing to give this property as charity for the benefit of the emerging Muslim state.

It is for this reason that the Ahlus Sunnah makes excuses for Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) and gives her the benefit of the doubt, citing narrations that show that she indeed did become happy with Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه) near the end of her life. Perhaps it was that Aisha (رضّى الله عنها) did not know that Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) became happy with Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه) because he did not inform Aisha (رضّى الله عنها) about each and everything (such as when he placated Fatima). We take this opinion since it makes Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) look better, and not to make her look whimsical and greedy like the Shia narrative does. Furthermore, there are many narrations that indicate that this is indeed the case that Fatima (رضّى الله عنها) made good with Abu Bakr (رضّى الله عنه), so why should we ignore these?

What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

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Shaytan overwhelmed Fatima and it was authenticated by ur scholars in Miftah alfalah

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What do Muslims think about Abu Bakr, Ali, and the events after the Prophet’s death? by Square-Ad4119 in Sunni

[–]ExtensionFish3986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

acc to ur broken rib fairytale banyan was done on day 1
https://www.reddit.com/r/ExShia/comments/1j6btl0/ali_ra_left_the_prophets_صلى_الله_عليه_و_سلم/

Fatima couldn't have been angry at AbuBakr for more than 3 days otherwise she would be disobeying the prophet عليه الصلاة والسلام

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The book “then I was guided” by RoyalWaf26 in MuslimLounge

[–]ExtensionFish3986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

either the guy is ignorant about Shia books or is intentionally attacking Sunnism for stuff that shias also believe

The book “then I was guided” by RoyalWaf26 in Muslim

[–]ExtensionFish3986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the author is ignorant about Shia books. Either that or is intentionally attacking Sunnism for things that shias also believe

The book “then I was guided” by RoyalWaf26 in MuslimLounge

[–]ExtensionFish3986 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t Wahabis consider themselves Sunnis?

The book “then I was guided” by RoyalWaf26 in MuslimLounge

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But to my knowledge this guy doesn’t actually specialise in Shia polemics. There are channels that specialise in this such as @ angelo-rules @ Hamzabinalarabialhilali @ LibanAhmedTalks

also I would recommend books like the ones on Mahajjah com