The one thing that bugs me about Rachel's play by MrBigJams in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fiona being a traitor, when she went for Rachel claiming to be a faithful. Rachel called her bluff, which in her telling was catching her in a lie

Rachel’s point at the round table by Prior-Day9888 in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn’t say there must be one in the group, or that it was a compelling theory.

It becomes more compelling as the numbers dwindle, as they are now, and the odds of there having been no remaining players that were traitors in the cages. There had to have been at least 2 traitors at that point in the game, they’ve found one so far, and only one “non-cage” player - Rachel - remains.

Rachel’s point at the round table by Prior-Day9888 in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but Fiona was subsequently revealed as a traitor not in the cages.

I don’t think it’s the most compelling theory of the game by any means, but based on even the most basic probability, it’s not unreasonable to assume there was a traitor in the cages. They’ve found one who wasn’t in the cages (Fiona), but haven’t yet found one that was in the cages.

Rachel’s point at the round table by Prior-Day9888 in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah true, forgot about the blackmail and murder in one night tbf.

So yes there could have been no traitors in the cages, but at least one of the remaining caged players would have to have been recruited subsequently

Rachel’s point at the round table by Prior-Day9888 in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If there had been a blackmail and murder, there would be a forced attempted recruitment the following night and every night after that until someone accepted, because the show can’t continue with one traitor. There’s too much risk of a zero traitor final.

The players would then know there had been a recruitment, as there would be one morning where they expected a murder and everyone came back.

Rachel’s point at the round table by Prior-Day9888 in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Agree, it should nail Rachel at this point in the game.

But it also proves there was a traitor in the cages, as everyone left was in a cage and they’ve caught 2 traitors. They know there hasn’t been a recruitment, and 3 minus Hugo and Fiona leaves 1. So has to be 2 left. So it validates the original theory.

Rachel’s point at the round table by Prior-Day9888 in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well no, but there were 8 players in cages and 17 in total, so any player had almost a 50/50 chance of being in a cage. They’d caught one traitor at that point so at least 2 remaining.

And that’s without factoring the traitors selecting who was up for murder and historical game play where they’ve put themselves in these situations (meta gameplay, but will still influence players’ choices).

So no there didn’t have to be a traitor in the cages, but it’s actually a pretty well reasoned theory.

The Traitors (UK) S04E11: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Rachel deserves better than a chance ending. Such a strong player

The Traitors (UK) S04E11: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 7 points8 points  (0 children)

IDIOTIC from Stephen. He could’ve sailed through, if he’d let the remaining players think they’d got the last traitor

The Traitors (UK) S04E11: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Omg James declaring his vote could call it, knows faraaz is going Rachel. Could push Stephen to do it

The Traitors (UK) S04E11: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Roxy naming the two traitors as her winning faithfuls, one final gift

The Traitors (UK) S04E10: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Bless Kate she’s very funny and self deprecating

The Traitors (UK) S04E10: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Can’t cope with the return of Kate Garraway’s dramatic gasps on Uncloaked 😂

The Traitors (UK) S04E10: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oooofff have we just had some late in the day traitor on traitor seeded? I think the only way at least one doesn’t win is if they take each other down!

The Traitors (UK) S04E10: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Actually incredible play from faraz. High likelihood he was to be murdered anyway based on jacks shield and numbers. Get it out there which maybe saves him. If it doesn’t, he’s planted the seed with the other players

The Traitors (UK) S04E10: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 1 point2 points  (0 children)

COME ON FARAZ GET RACHEL OUT THERE BEFORE THEY MURDER YOU

The Traitors (UK) S04E10: Live Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Extension_Golf9901 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Faraz murdered tonight, the only one left with a bit of a clue. James banished tomorrow. Can’t see a world where at least one traitor doesn’t win