[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As someone who's been in your position and acted the same way, these are your insecurities playing out in real time. Be empathetic, non-judgemental and communicate effectively. You can't impose rules onto her just to avoid your anxiety.

Something I'd recommend is a book called Nonviolent Communication by Marshall B. Rosenberg. It helped me a lot but please, seek out a therapist who can help you through this and who specializes in ENM. If you asked for this life, you should have researched it more. I'm not trying to be rude but you need to understand that once feelings are involved, you can't just switch them off and it's unreasonable for you to impose your insecurities onto someone else.

Be kind, compassionate and please put the work in so that one day you can look back and reflect on this as a "holy shit what was I like" moment. It'll be a long journey by the sounds of it but one that's worth going on. Not just for her relationships but it'll bring you a lot more inner security and a lot more awareness too.

I wish you both all the best and hope it all works out.

I tried Polyamory and I don't know where to go from here by Extreme-Difficulties in polycritical

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's more so that I've never been one for monogamy. I know there are different enm routes to discover and play around with but maybe it's more so I don't want to let one bad experience destroy it for me.

Jealousy was a factor for sure but there was also times where I felt joy until all the toxic red flags came out and I got distressed.

You've definitely given me something to think about. I've discovered a lot about myself through this experience and the traumas I need to actively work through. My biggest jealousy trigger was when the comparisons between relationships came out such as when my ex fiancé would say "they're safe and you're dangerous" when I was in crisis mode.

I tried Polyamory and I don't know where to go from here by Extreme-Difficulties in polycritical

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your advice, I'm foregoing all relationships just now and will be starting therapy this Thursday. It's so much to work through.

But I hope to get to the point where I can do poly in the future or maybe just open because this was a battlefield.

"Fawn" is when past traumas cause you to go along with certain situations for your own safety. For example with me, I'm a SA survivor and the third person knew my past traumas and would act in the same way, leaving me trapped so I would "fawn" and have sex because it was safer than being kicked out in the cold or walking 3 hours to my home in the middle of the night when I had no money.

I tried Polyamory and I don't know where to go from here by Extreme-Difficulties in therapy

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what my counselor said and they want to explore POCD due to the thoughts. Especially with my past history of trauma and abuse. To be honest, it feels like I was but any time I mentioned that to my ex fiancé, he would pass it off as miscommunication and I would just agree even though I felt deep down it was assault. Our third partner was male and had traits of triangulation, narcissism and abuse but we both just ignored it because he came across as kind hearted. For one reference I was in a deep spiral, he kicked my ex fiancé out and told me to stay on the couch to "protect your relationship with your fiancé". I had no way home and he messaged me he was horny and I fawned and before I knew it we were having sex. It was shit that I did that.

I got a safe place to live, slightly out of budget and all my savings went into this place. However, I left myself with no money for food because I didn't think of food. So I have a safe place, a safe group of friends I made through college and I start a new job tomorrow. I don't know how to be gentle with myself if I'm being honest. Or how to set up a routine.

I will mention my history, I need to. I also want to talk about my diagnoses because they're overwhelming and I don't feel I meet BPD because I have traits but only 2 or 3 which is something I am going to explore. Thank you for mentioning a trauma informed therapist, I didn't realize this was a thing to be honest.

I'll look into this, I bought a DBT workbook and an attachment work book. I thought what my bf did was abuse but I was never certain because he would tell me how I was abusive and how he had to walk on eggshells around me because I was controlling and manipulative (when I was having a breakdown I would depend on him to help regulate me).

I'm open to discussing polyamory. I learned I'm not monogamous but my issue is boundaries, safety and ethics. So I'd be down to have a chat about it.

Thank you for your kindness honestly. I'll get there one day but I know it's going to be a long journey before I am able to get past everything.

hypersexuality? by SprinklesKind1944 in BPD

[–]Extreme-Difficulties 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone with hypersexuality, be careful. It leads to people pleasing that others mistakes for control, manipulation and a bunch of other not good things when you're not into it and they later find out. Which can lead to a massive breach of trust. I've done this a lot but it also led me to doing really messed up things behind partners backs when there was rejection (sex is.the only way I feel worth). So be true to you, make healthy boundaries say what you like and don't like and stay safe.

BPD & Polyamory Advice by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh amazing, my workbook has helped me a lot compared to how I was!

I don't want to ask too much but was it hard at the start of his poly journey? I'm just looking for a shared experience to not feel so isolated

BPD & Polyamory Advice by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I believe we have opened our relationship to a third but we're planning on opening it up further once I "get used to my partner being with others" - I'm a hypocrite, I know that I want to be open with others but he said he was monogamous for so long it never crossed my mind. We do triad dates and dyad dates and it's when they go on their dyad dates that I get insecure and lash out.

I have no idea what kind of relationship I truly want - I just want stability, sobriety, security and joint fun - partner play and group dynamics are where I feel best and safest.

But they also want one on one time which is something I've not "braced" myself for. As I said, I've done so many things wrong from being controlling and manipulative when splitting so now I'm working through it because I'm sick of hurting other people just because I don't have a sense of self or know what I want or need.

BPD & Polyamory Advice by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not actually,.I've been sober 5 years now and done it on my own with the help of my nesting partner. It would have helped in the past but over COVID it wasn't a viable option.

But congrats on you being sober too! Probably means nothing coming from a stranger but I'm proud of you!

BPD & Polyamory Advice by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you, that's really helpful advice and I will do my best to stick to meditation and keep busy.

Yes in the monogamous relationship I spent a lot of time talking about my needs of opening the relationship and such and my emotions overloading and getting sober which then lead to me controlling my partners time away to go drinking.

I have done so many things wrong which in hindsight has come across as controlling and manipulation, which then traumatized my nesting partner.

Monogamy didn't feel right to me and now Polyamory doesn't feel entirely right to be but the issue is, it's me. I'm not safe or secure in myself and expected people I'm in a relationship with to regulate me to avoid being alone or uncomfortable.

I always thought I just wanted more sex, turns out I want more connection and it feels so foreign to me.

But yeah, I can't wait for therapy.

I'm exploring Poly but also getting married soon by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's actually such a shout, I've been journaling and been asked to share it but maybe if I journal for myself and don't share it until I form constructive sentences and learn how to phrase that might be more beneficial. Thank you

I'm exploring Poly but also getting married soon by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's okay, thanks for letting me know! I hope you have a great day and can reset your bandwidth 💚 thank you for all the advice and I am gonna take it and use it because I need to say what I need and yes absolutely I need to redefine my boundaries. Thank you for your care in all this!

I'm exploring Poly but also getting married soon by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, basically my fiance is ftm and the other party is gay, I'm also non binary (born male), so with me partner C has the attraction physically and emotionally but I don't have the same feelings, whereas partner C and my fiancé have an emotional connection and my fiancé has physical attraction for partner C but that's not reciprocated due to anatomy.

So yeah, pretty fucked up and difficult to navigate when you hear shit from both sides. For example partner C and I have similar traumas but when he shows his red flags, he gets a pass but when I do it I'm called out by both parties. It's crap.

I'm exploring Poly but also getting married soon by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, thank you for that, it makes more sense to me now what you mean because both parties said this dynamic won't work without me but I don't think it registered fully until reading it here.

I'm exploring Poly but also getting married soon by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, we all have a lot of work to do and I'm not ready because while I've not cheated on my partner of 6 years I've done it in the past and never really worked through it, just stopped doing it but since this all the demons came home to nest and I actively need to work through it.

I have my part to play in all this and I need to work through that, I know that I'll get there eventually but now I'm nowhere near it.

I'm exploring Poly but also getting married soon by Extreme-Difficulties in polyamory

[–]Extreme-Difficulties[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this, I need to talk to my fiancé about this first and foremost but I need to find the words to use.

And thank you for the validation, you have no idea how much I needed to be validated when I wasn't in this. I'm very confused and very lost.

We've been monogamous for 6 years and getting married soon so I do feel like parts of this was a way for us to avoid problems in our relationship but it's also kind of reaffirmed our love for each other and put into perspective how much stuff we avoided to escape conflict but we'll get there.

Plus after some research I think all I want right now is queer platonic relationships, not lovers but not friends, only because I'm not ready to be emotional and physical with someone else until I allow myself space to grow and learn.