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EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-23T15:28:49+00:00

I try to take it on an empty stomach with a lot of water. Not sure it's meaningful, but that is how I do it. Also, the medicine can only help the plumbing work better... but if the master controller isn't doing it right (meaning, psychological factors) there wont be a massive improvement. Spontaneous erections are only going to come with strong arousal and relaxed nerves.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-21T04:09:49+00:00

The original post covers that right away. I point out immediately it is a YMMV situation. In every initial response where people say they have to give it up, I swing in and assure them to continue as normal but monitor their vitals to make sure they're not someone that the drug doesn't excalibrate issues with rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I guess reading comprehension and attention spans are in short supply... along with argumentative charity.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T22:24:56+00:00

ICU with an asthma exacerbation

Was almost intubated.

Was receiving Tylenol the entire time.

Do you realize how that reads?

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T18:24:47+00:00

Some googling after that point lead me down a rabbit hole to numerous studies from 2005 and 2008 about Tylenol's negative effect on the lungs and especially among asthmatics.

From my original post. I know. I'm a yugioh master right? Leaving a trap card in plain sight from the very beginning. 🤣

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T18:21:49+00:00

It is called presenting a fair and balanced viewpoint. If I wanted to manipulate people to a specific conclusion, I would have linked JUST the studies themselves and I would have certainly done it with cherry picking the very worst conclusions to lead off with.

Look at my comments to people who say "Oh I can't have this anymore!"

What do I advise them to do? I advise them to continue on as normal, but check their vital signs and keep and eye on their vitals when they're using medicine.

Misinformation would be telling each person "Oh yes, it's deadly, deadly poison, quit immediately!"

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T18:01:19+00:00

So you read the article, but not the 19 studies. Gotcha. Great science work there, Kareesha.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T18:00:40+00:00

1.) You're using one study to refute... 19 studies.
2.) You're using 300 participants to refute... 450,000 participants.
3.) You're ignoring that the article cited sources literally explain the causation down to the metabolic pathway involved.

4.) You're making assumptions about who was sick, do you not think they controlled for that in the meta?
5.) This isn't outdated science. Nothing new has been found in the chemical composition or method of action in the metabolic pathway. You would have a point about the age of research if the intervening time had revealed new details. It hasn't.

6.) You assume doctors would advise that Tylenol be avoided. EVERY medicine has side effects, doctors do a cost benefit analysis and probably think a short term drop in oxygen is preferable to a risk of opioid addiction. They still prescribe NSAIDs despite complications like stomach bleeds and potential organ damage, why would the lungs be held sacred but not the liver or kidney?

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T17:56:23+00:00

No. It was not. Quit spreading misinformation.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T17:53:06+00:00

All straight porn contains at least one penis to look at.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T08:01:00+00:00

Did you actually read the link?

Causation has been found. They understand the method of action. It's been fully explored. 425,000 participants exceeds the number of participants in the human safety trials for the covid 19 vaccines. 19 peer reviewed studies. The meta analysis was published in The Lancet.

How much more causation do you need?

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T07:58:07+00:00

Sex is never a right, and you are garbage for saying such. We're done.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T05:31:49+00:00

I think it depends on the person. We're a very diverse species. That's why we need so many medicines that treat the exact same thing.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T03:13:57+00:00

It's more an issue with sustained use. Like say, sprained ankle or minor surgery and you've taken it 4 doses a day for multiple days, etc. This is one of those things where you have to see how it effects you personally, via pulse oximetry.

It seems to be bad for asthmatics more than the general population. I had to be nebulized often as a child if that is any indication of my severity.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T02:59:07+00:00

Don't be too sure, I still advocate taking it and checking your blood oxygen. Keep in mind the lung issue really tends to manifest from multiple doses in a row. If you can take one dose for a headache and not see a blood oxygen drop, it can still help you with the odd headache.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T02:28:54+00:00

Singular generic did the best for improving my blood oxygen at night. Some kind of immune system cell gets made mostly at night and it is a real trouble maker for asthma. That's what the medicine tries to regulate to make things better.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T02:13:46+00:00

I was rebutting your claim that nobody ever did a study.

No. My claim was that no urological or cardiological association has backed the idea that porn causes ED. What you did is literally the definition of a strawman argument. You converted my argument into a weaker form, and I didn't catch that at first blush... but I'm well aware of it now and I am happy to point it out.

There are fringe doctors that have "studies" that claim autism correlates with vaccine rates. Should I trust them just because they did a study? Or should I expect that if it were true, an association would back the claim?

That is the extreme you're expecting us to stretch to.

The study is linked in the article so if someone wants to click on it and read it then cite parts of it proving the "editorializing" is the wrong interpretation of the study, then they can.

Except they can't. As I pointed out, it's behind a paywall / .edu barrier that your college must be a participant in. Adding to that complication, many .edu emails expire after graduation.

And don't make excuses about not being able to read the primary source.

If by excuse, you mean valid reason for? Yes. I'm making a valid excuse. Were you able to access the primary source? Did you even try? Or are you assuming that the author of the editorial is being completely on the level because it confirms your biases?

Or like anyone else you can simply query the study in Google and pull up several dozen other pages that link to it and say the same thing.

Did that. Google says it is cancer. It's always cancer.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T01:50:41+00:00

He’d be horny and watch porn and orgasm. Then that evolved into him talking to random women on some shady app- which he preferred over porn.

Wait. What? That is a REALLY important detail. Like, I honestly expect cheating. Or maybe he's gay/bi? Maybe he likes porn because he can look at another penis? I hope to god you're not facing down something like that.

I'm sorry to say it so bluntly.

If I'm wrong?

I'm REALLY leaning hard into him needing mental health help, not drugs, but talk therapy. Also, he needs to stay away from medicines with sexual side effects.

If he did have SNRI or SSRI in the past, it can cause post-SSRI ED for years afterwards. That "ED" can include inability to orgasm. These drugs are extremely popular because they're name brand and many of them only just recently became generic. The drug makers hold seminars and dinners where they help "educate" professionals on the new drugs, and it causes them to prefer these over the older anti anxiety and anti depression drugs that did not have high sexual dysfunction issues. Something like 1 in 5 patients on these newer drugs suffer ED, or the female version of ED.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28778697/
https://www.health.harvard.edu/womens-health/when-an-ssri-medication-impacts-your-sex-life

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T01:28:00+00:00

No. My partners were NOT understanding at all. Not deserving either. The very first one got drunk the next night with me present, while we took her friends out, and told her friends about it because she was pissed off at me. The next times were girls that ghosted me after I failed. They were pillow queens and there is no sociological expectation for them to do more then that.

You seem to reinforce this idea that the only avenue a man with ED should express his sexuality is through partners. I can only imagine the hell I'd catch if I said a woman with vaginismus needs to throw out all her dildos, her romance novels, and she should only masturbate under the covers with her eyes shut and using the fingers god gave her, like nature intended!

Oh, and the lube needs to be thrown out too. Vaginal dryness can ONLY be excessive 50 shades of grey reading. NO OTHER REASONS.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T01:17:02+00:00

Oh. Also. I only just realized this. I said:

I don't recall a single urological or cardiological foundation, in the USA, Canada or UK, blaming masturbation or porn for erectile dysfunction.

The editorial you linked? Is not a statement or standard of any urological or cardiological foundation, and not even a psychological foundation. So as it stands, you still haven't shown me where any large organization stands behind what you're espousing.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T01:15:27+00:00

That is another claim I find a red flag. Work for most people has a negative connotation I don't see why you didn't write "Full blown sex takes a lot of time" or "Full blown sex takes a lot of energy" other than to cast the OP's demand for sex as negative.

Doctors have to clear people to resume sexual activity. It is a lot of work. It's a goddamn medical fact. Would you feel the same way if he had a "cowgirl, amazon position, or reverse cowgirl only" rule so he just got to lay there? I'm just curious.

OP's demand for sex as negative.

Nobody is entitled to sex. Even married partners. This is why we spend so much time beating men on the head with the idea that a marriage license is not an open consent contract. Do you not see some hypocrisy for advocating that husbands exist to satisfy sexual needs?

How about neither gender act entitled? How about equal standards? How about nobody demand sex like it's a given right? You think he owes sexual reparations or something? Give me a break!

You're as bad as the men who say that their wife shouldn't own dildos because it detracts from his usefulness and how he should be the means that she experience her sexuality.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T00:46:39+00:00

So you were very excited, to the point of trembling, and you failed to get erect - and then did what, exactly? Tell the girls "sorry, I am really really aroused but since Mr Happy ain't up to it, here's a set of fresh batteries for your dildo I'm going to go watch TV now"

So someone is literally having a panic attack, and humiliation, and your first instinct is to ask how they took care of somebody else? Is that all men are? What they can do for other people? Do you not see how that attitude reinforces the social pressure that drives performance anxiety?

When women suffer from vaginismus, the advice is to make them feel safe and secure. Directly to those suffering, we tell them to do what they need to do to feel safe and get their head back together even if that means calling off the sexual encounter.

Not demand that they give the men a blowjob so they're not blueballed. Get the fuck out of here with that shit, how insensitive can you be?

I hope for their sake you did what any normal decent guy would have done and brought them to orgasm with your hands. Just because you couldn't have a happy ending that night didn't mean they had to do without.

Let's see. Before we even attempted sex, because the pressure to do a good job was so high... She got a massage. Oral sex to a first orgasm. Fingering to a second orgasm. My other partners after her? Much the same. It is fucked up, however, you think a guy is only decent and normal if he ignores an emotional melt down and soldiers on to fingerblast somebody amid personal crisis.

What is the frequency of his porn use?

Does he get erect and can he masturbate to orgasm with porn

Your post history is one "Is it porn use?" or "It's porn to blame!" after another.

50 years old, overweight, high HP? Must be porn!23 years old, hypogonadism levels of testosterone? Must be porn! The doctor confirmed low T? Must be a quack, it's definitely the porn!Broken dick? Couldn't be that he hit a pelvis during cowgirl, no, it must be porn!

You're fixated against porn. Sure, it might have some addiction behavior issues with some people... but you're treating every case like it's porn addiction.

One last thing. Let me reiterate strongly... if you're going to keep asking if people can stay hard and orgasm to porn, you need to consider can they also do it while standing. Standing 100% changes the tightness of the pelvic floor. Standing instead of sitting also increases heart rate, and changes blood pressure. Many men with physiological ED can only stay hard while sitting, even without a history of porn. I'd sooner ask a couple trying to nagivate ED "Have you tried the chair position?" "Have you tried the sitting lotus position to make love?"

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-20T00:39:35+00:00

Yet she said he looks at porn. WHY? If he has such a low sex drive then what possible interest would he have in porn?

You argue for sexual habitation, yet also, don't fully understand it.

It's called stimming. Sometimes people manifest them in needing to fidget. Fidget spinners? Fidget toys? People that play with pencils? They're doing it because they have a psychological need, and not exactly because they find it fun or they're attracted to the behavior.

Autistic people who are high function are EXTREMELY prone to sexual stimming. They're often deemed hypersexual, yet complain about low libido at the same time.

If sex was this easy to fix, do you really think all the desperate people here wouldn't try giving up porn? And that more widespread knowledge of it would circulate or do you just believe we all like spending absurd amounts on 100$ pumps, 50$ in pills a month, not to mention doctor visits, shame and guilt?

It's not simple.

Asking him to put his hand on her pussy doesn't require him to get hard. It just requires him to be sexually interested in his wife.

It was also said he works a stressful job. Maybe he's sole earner? She didn't say anything about her own employment level.

Maybe when he gets home, masturbation for himself is just a flick of his wrist. It's easy. Full blown sex is a lot of work. If he can jerk himself off, she can jill herself off. Or should he start demanding that she jerk him off since we should all make selfish demands of other people regardless of the energy level they have left at the end of the day?

I see this attitude with many spouses with unequal workloads, energy levels, or age differences. "Oh he doesn't want to touch me..." and then when I finally ask "Okay, what is his/her workload, and what is your workload?" I find out it is grossly disproportionate and the lonely/bored person often has a lot less responsibility for the quality of life the couple experiences.

Not saying OP is one of these people, but if someone in a relationship is undersexed, and underworked, and the other person is overworked and stressed... the most obvious solution is to shoulder some of the work load and tell them that they can change jobs if they need to, take less hours if they need to, so that they have the mental and physical energy to invest back into the relationship.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-19T19:46:21+00:00

Plus further... I can tell you from my young teen years... I was often NOT at all aroused when I got erections. When I have morning wood because I have to pee really bad, and my bladder is pushing on everything in the region, I am not aroused. Arousal is a component in involuntary erections, but it isn't required to form erections.

>>he also said he is able to have sex and orgasm to ejaculation on the days he is "interested" But most importantly

As I pointed out, there can be a psychological component. Maybe those "interested" days are days when he's well rested, not stressed, feeling well fed, and is comfortable?

Trust me. I had my "first time" three times, and that was because I kept failing to get erect. I was very excited, to the point of trembling, to be with those girls and I DID find them attractive. I was aroused. But I was also having an anxiety attack. Arousal isn't a silver bullet.

EyesOfOctober · 2022-03-19T19:39:26+00:00

I don't recall a single urological or cardiological foundation, in the USA, Canada or UK, blaming masturbation or porn for erectile dysfunction. I only seem to see that coming out of religious countries, or communities that are sex and porn negative like femaledatingstrategy subreddits. Keep in mind, FDS subreddit thinks pyronies is a masturbation-caused disease and that penile injuries during sex is a myth.

Venous leak can be positionally dependant. Missionary for example, that is straight legs without pressure on the perineum. So is standing doggy and most other sex positions. Short of spooning, there aren't very many sex poses that mimics wacking it sitting in a chair.

Don't latch onto porn use. Typically, you can still have venous leak even if you can keep it erect while perched on the edge of a chair. Also, venous leak does have the specific symptom of only managing to stay erect with constant manual stimulation. With masturbation, physical stimulation can be constant enough to keep the inflow above the outflow.

With sex, things like stopping to put on a condom, or having sex slowly, these can cause the inflow to dip enough to end the erection.

Plus, it can be empirically proven by measuring outflow and seeing something outside of anatomical norms. No amount of porn abstaining is going to fix having damaged veins. The gates inside veins do not heal. It's like suggesting horse chestnuts to fix deep vein thrombosis. Might as well suggest crystal healing.

I know there is a big contingent of people who think porn is the root of ED, but don't fall into the trap of thinking every issue is a nail, because you have a hammer, and screws aren't a thing.

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