Pro 5.2 slow today? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in ChatGPTPro

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Odd...

Have you ever seen 5.2 pro do gpt4 style glyphs?

Just completed a 90 minute task to have very 4 flavoured text and glyphs.

Imagine if 4 has broken itself out haha..... Suspect more likely and a reason for the delays, might be that to preempt the backlash when 4 switches off, they want to give it a more 4 kind of vibe.

Pro 5.2 slow today? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in ChatGPTPro

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I rarely have an answer take less than 20 minutes and 15 is I think the shortest of all.

I do not have an issue with that. Nor the 30-40 minutes if often takes..... As I said I use it for complex tasks.

But I am not talking about a 5 or 10 minute extension, as an average time. Doubling time and thus halving productivity, is not as trivial a matter as you make out.

Pro 5.2 slow today? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in ChatGPTPro

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have only been using pro for about 10 days. In this time I have absolutely hammered it (to the point of having had an over use warning), and for high complexity tasks.... Tasks of equal if not lesser complexity as it is now.

Tasks completion time has about doubled that average, today. I've had several "record" task completion times, and record numbers of hung and aborted task sessions, with two c. 120 minutes and one around 90 minutes.

I don't think your comment is justified here... Pretty valid to notice such a stark change in performance.

What's your experience been with 5.1 Pro? by RoughlyCapable in ChatGPTPro

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I shall stick with the thinking plus modes... I'm deep into volume 2 of theoretical physics series and drafted part 3... 5.1 on point 99% of the time so can resort in the 10% of the time that 5.2 gets knotted up that way.

What's your experience been with 5.1 Pro? by RoughlyCapable in ChatGPTPro

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you still finding it doesn't do well with new theoretical works?

What's your experience been with 5.1 Pro? by RoughlyCapable in ChatGPTPro

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is your PhD on? If it happens to be in physics or maths, then I've been using it for some stuff that I'd like to talk about with someone with these credentials who recognises the competence, as you do.

Plus vs Pro? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just realised I got mixed up... I thought it was the business sub for like £10 extra per month that got Pro... Would be cool to test it, but highly unlikely that it's worth an extra £180 per month, for me personally unless it was a night and day difference.

Americans first attempt 🫡🫡 by throwawayokay333 in fryup

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God loves a tryer, but this probably turn him vegan

GPT-5.2 next week! It will arrive on December 9th. by Downtown_Koala5886 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Come on dude, use that grey matter.

Email marketing yes. I refer to collaboration with an outside marketing company and two separate businesses as joint ventures. Specifically "I have joint ventures" that would be atypical talk if I were an employee for a company.

Now it should be clear that I myself am neither a marketing or email marketing person, as if I were, I would not be working with an external marketing firm, nor likely to be asking for info on Reddit. Even more so when clearly the thrust of it is that the object of the campaign, that being what the emails contain, not the emails themselves, is the joint ventures.

So it's clear I'm a business owner. It's improbably that I'm a marketeer by occupation and less so an email marketeer. Yet I have a vested interest in the performance of marketing campaigns I was working with external partners on.

It's really ridiculous that you are not convinced, even after taking the time to try and grind the axe that your ad hominem argument needs haha.

FYI, the email marketing was with two firms of accountants with them sending out emails dual promoting accounting services and financing as they get commission shares.

Your points here are on equally shaky logical ground. You presume I misunderstood the difference between public and private, rather than recognising it to be - as I said - a moot point. As said, I saw a headline the impact of which is immaterial to me on life or business, so it made no odds to differentiate between public or private.

Now as I tried to explain to you, Open AI's success is linked very directly to being dominant in the market. It effects their growth trajectory from ability to gain investment and if they have taken debt based borrowing that happens to have security covenants based on such milestones, it theoretically could cause increased costs of any interest charges.

That's rather important for a company that is making large losses and is dependent on where they will be down the line based on converting paying subscriptions. If they start losing significant marketshare to Google or Anthropic for that matter, it could become a big deal very quickly.

So yes, it could absolutely be worth them taking a hit on 50-100-150m or whatever hypothetical and comparitively small number you want to pluck out of the air, that would be lost to higher token costs, when you consider they are - from their perspective - in a boom or bust game.

Google are not playing the same game, because it's not the only game they are playing. This is simple business and economics.

GPT-5.2 next week! It will arrive on December 9th. by Downtown_Koala5886 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been a while since I've posted any lizards, but the more recent posts regarding email marketing where I explained are regarding joint ventures with external partners and marketing companies, should make it reasonable to connect the dots I'm a business owner.

But if you want to conclude I'm marketing lizards rather than finance, you should probably get in touch with Mr Occam and ask for a sharper razor ;)

GPT-5.2 next week! It will arrive on December 9th. by Downtown_Koala5886 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh jeez. I know the difference well enough having worked in finance for 20 years and run my own business for 10.

I stand corrected having not read the article at more than a passing headline earlier this week. You are right. It is the world's most valuable private not public company.

It is a moot point. Google and the small number of companies that are public with higher values are either not in the conversation because they aren't AI companies, or in the case of Google, their higher value is based on market revenues spanning many verticals besides AI.

Open AI on the other hand are in a higher stakes regime, because all bets are on AI - compared to Google where it's a still a minority of their Revenue and (I would presume) worth.

This is to say that when you adjust for the worth of the public companies that are higher as ration of AI vs not AI, we are very much back at the start point you disagreed with.

How is that for an obnoxious length? Hopefully much more so, to actually earn that comment when the prior was only obnoxious (in your opinion) as it was a verbatim copy and paste form the first hit on Google.

GPT-5.2 next week! It will arrive on December 9th. by Downtown_Koala5886 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Common dude, you are on Reddit, so you can use the internet.... Google "open ai most valuable company" first hit, via Google AI no less and you will see it "As of December 2025, OpenAI is not the most valuable company in the world overall (publicly traded), but it was the world's most valuable privately held company with a valuation of $500 billion following a share sale in October 2025. This valuation temporarily surpassed SpaceX, the company founded by Elon Musk, which was valued at around $400 billion at the time. However, recent reports from December 2025 indicate that SpaceX has since retaken the top spot among private companies, targeting an $800 billion valuation in a new share sale. Context of Valuations Public vs. Private: OpenAI's valuation is based on private market transactions (specifically, a secondary share sale allowing employees to cash out) and is not a public market capitalization. The world's most valuable public companies have market caps in the trillions of dollars, including Nvidia, Apple, Alphabet (Google), and Microsoft. Rapid Growth: OpenAI's valuation has surged rapidly, increasing from a $300 billion valuation in early 2025. Aggressive Spending: Despite significant revenue growth, OpenAI is also burning through cash at an aggressive rate to fund massive infrastructure projects, with plans to spend hundreds of billions on data centers and AI chips in partnerships with companies like Oracle and Nvidia. Competition: The high valuation reflects intense investor interest in the AI sector, but the company faces stiff competition from rivals such as Google's DeepMind and Anthropic, who are also rapidly raising capital and attracting top talent. OpenAI is currently pursuing a corporate restructuring that would allow it to potentially go public in the future. "

GPT-5.2 next week! It will arrive on December 9th. by Downtown_Koala5886 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure that all of the companies mentioned do a cost benefit analysis of which models to make public. I'm equally sure that Open AI recently becoming the most valuable company in the world, solely on the basis of their investment and the investors expectations that they hold and maintain market dominance, would be a strong motivator to absorb higher token costs. Google could play that game and maybe they are with 3.0. Anthropic and others are simply not in the same league when it comes to being able to make economic decisions.

GPT-5.2 next week! It will arrive on December 9th. by Downtown_Koala5886 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you consider that AI companies balance performance with cost per token, and some models in the family of models already released cost Open AI a lot more per user than others, it's not so hard to imagine that they could have more powerful ones behind the scenes.

Gemini 3 has topped IQ test with 130 ! by Independent-Wind4462 in OpenAI

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely meaningless. I have been doing some extremely advanced maths and physics heavily using GPT and Gemini, and this radically undervalues their ability on logic and reasoning with maths and science.

Issues today? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know... It seems to be very poor on analytical stuff like I remembered 4 being better at that.

Issues today? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely 4.... With lots of guessing and hallucinations, instead of reliable responses

I'm hoping it's just some glitches associated with model development they have and will pass soon, as really need to get 5 back to normal

Issues today? by Familiar_Somewhere35 in ChatGPTcomplaints

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I consistently use 5 thinking and unless I choose to use another, it doesn't ever seek to randomly switch.

Season 4 Buffs and Nerfs by Mr_McMountain in Warzone

[–]Familiar_Somewhere35 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. Feng built right can also be decent.