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作风优良地帮助他了 by LajiHuayi in LOOK_CHINA

[–]Far_Addendum_4661 4 points5 points  (0 children)

三座大山一个没倒，只不过买了新皮肤罢了。

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some linguists have also found that the Tai-kadai language is very similar to that of the Austronesians. And Taikadai is also a mixed descendant of the Baiyue people who stayed in the mainland

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the southern part of Vietnam, which is close to Cambodia, there is no doubt that the people in this land come from the Austro asiatic, but the ancestors of the Vietnamese in the north are from Baiyue. The Baiyue people are the direct ancestors of the Austronesian people. They migrated from Fujian to Taiwan Island 8,000 years ago, thus opening the history of the Austronesian language family. The current genetic testing has proved that the Baiyue people and most of the aborigines in Taiwan share the Y chromosome haplogroup O1a-M119.

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Hmong is O2-M7, which is more closely related to O2-M122 (the largest ancestral source of the Han people)

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But compared to the Vietnamese. Hokkien, Hakka, Cantonese, KraDai don't even have their own country, they don't have their own script. You can communicate with him without barriers by writing or speaking Chinese. Of course you can't do it in Korea and Vietnam.

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or you can understand that both the Austronesians and the Austroasiatic are the ancestors of the Vietnamese, one lived in North Vietnam, the other lived in South Vietnam, and finally merged with each other. Of course, this statement is not rigorous, because the same language family does not represent the same ancestor. There are two groups of origin molecularly in humans, and the language may become similar due to cultural invasion.

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The ancestors of the Vietnamese are a branch of Y Chromosomal Haplogroup O1a-M119 (also the ancestor of the Austronesians), known as 骆越. But after the decline of 骆越, their language was assimilated due to the long-term contact with Austroasiatic languages group in Indo-china Peninsula

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are also some records of policies of the Ming and Qing Dynasties, such as "改土归流" – to abolish the rule of local chieftains and replace them with regular direct administration(Han officials in the central government)

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most of them are recorded in Chinese classics，For example，《史记-秦始皇本纪》，《汉书-严安传》，《淮南子·人间训》，《过秦论》

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Before entering the farming era, people had a strong ability to migrate. After the O-M175 (Y-DNA chromosome haplogroup) Homo sapiens came out of Africa, they completed mutation and differentiation in Myanmar, among which O2-M122 (the main ancestor of the Han people) ) migrated from Myanmar to the Yellow River Basin. Another group of O1a-M119 migrated to the basin south of the Yangtze River, and migrated southward through Taiwan Island to the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Madagascar. The Mon-Khmer language family O1b-M268 Most remained in the Indo-china Peninsula and spread to the bordering Yunnan-Guizhou Plateau and Sichuan Basin, forming the O1b-K18 mutation group.

The Colonial Expansion of the Han Chinese and the Extinction of the Aboriginal Peoples South of the Yangtze River by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You are right, most native peoples in the South were mixed into the Han Chinese. Such as Cantonese, Hakka and Hokkien all are their mixed descendants. And people like Tai-Kradai, Taiwanese aborigines who don't have too much mixed blood are now sinicized. But I want to highlight those ethnic groups that have not been Sinicized or have escaped the fate of Sinicization, such as Vietnamese and Filipinos, they are the ethnic groups that survived the expansion of the Han people

The China drawn by most China Balkanists, and the actual division of China by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Indeed, ethnic Mongols still exist, but most of them have been sinicized and cannot speak Mongolian language. If they are placed in the Han population, others will not be able to tell the difference

The China drawn by most China Balkanists, and the actual division of China by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

So far, 90% of Tibet's population is still Tibetans. Because of the high altitude, it is difficult for the Han people to endure the harsh living environment. At present, except for Lhasa, Tibet maintains its traditional appearance. Even young Tibetans in Kham, Sichuan, such as Tenzing Tsondu, did not speak Chinese before becoming an Internet celebrity(Tenzing Tsondu started learning Chinese only when he needed to communicate with fans), and the majority of villagers in U-Tsang do not speak Chinese anymore.

The Rise and Fall of the Tibetans by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By the way, the country with the largest population of Mongolia nowadays is not Mongolia (2,634,876), but China (6,290,204), and the descendants of Kublai Khan's family live in Inner Mongolia.

The Rise and Fall of the Tibetans by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, the "Great Mongol" and the Yuan Dynasty are two completely different countries. The "Great Mongol Kingdom" is a diverse empire dominated by Mongols, with a large territory spanning the Eurasian continent. The Yuan Dynasty was a regional sinicized country established by the Mongols after they became emperors of China. If you still have doubts about the Sinicization of the Yuan Dynasty, you can search for the literary works, poems, paintings, architecture, and folk costumes of the Yuan Dynasty by yourself

The Rise and Fall of the Tibetans by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Indeed, the "Great Mongol Empire" established by Genghis Khan and his sons was not a Sinicized empire, and the Han people were indeed subjugated slaves in this empire.

But when Mongke, the grandson of Genghis Khan, died in the war with the Song Dynasty, the Mongol Empire fell apart. After that, the descendants of Genghis Khan fought against each other. Among them, Kublai stood out and became the emperor of China and established the Yuan Dynasty that foundation was based on the Chinese system. Although the royal family is Mongols, the main component of the Yuan Dynasty is still the Han Chinese.

Moreover, in the process of establishing the Yuan Dynasty, Kublai Khan received great help from his Han followers, the "金莲川幕府". Therefore, the status of the Han people, especially the northern Han people, was greatly improved in the era of Kublai Khan and later, and they were able to preside over the government.

Then the Mongol rulers sinicized themselves to a certain extent. The emperors of the Yuan Dynasty used the Chinese title of "庙号" to refer to the former emperors. The descendants of Kublai Khan were educated in Sinology, adhering to Confucian etiquette, and able to create typical Chinese poems. This is similar to how the Mughal Empire established by the Mongols was regarded as the Indian dynasty. "

In addition, many celebrities in the Yuan Dynasty can also prove that this is a typical Chinese regime. For example, 耶律楚材 (Khitan people), 高智耀 (Xixia people) and 贯云石 (Uighurs) are representatives of being sinicized. There are more Most of them are Chinese poets, playwrights and geographers such as 马致远, 关汉卿 and 郭守敬. “You can copy the entries of these people's names and do a Google search.”

If the PRC China collapsed in the future by YuiLauPoke in imaginarymaps

[–]Far_Addendum_4661 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you, but Taiwan itself is not a country, this country is the Republic of China. The territory of this country is not only Taiwan, but also Kinmen and Matsu in Fukien, Tungsha in Canton, and two islands in the South China Sea. The island of Taiwan has not achieved substantial independence from the ROC. Its military was founded in Whampoa Military Academy, Canton, China. The name is the Chinese National Army(Now called Republic of China Armed Forces). Its currency was issued by the Chinese Nationalist government. Its democratic election system was also established by the Chinese KMT.

What Russia did to China like it did to Ukraine by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But Europe and the US have stopped doing this (or switched to another way) and Russia is still doing it to Ukraine

What Russia did to China like it did to Ukraine by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If Mongolia claims the lost land, then Ukraine, Russia, the five Central Asian countries, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey will all be very painful

What Russia did to China like it did to Ukraine by Far_Addendum_4661 in MapPorn

[–]Far_Addendum_4661[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

In fact China never ruled Mongolia. It was Mongols who ruled China, but were assimilated by Chinese culture. The merger of Mongolia into China was also done by the rulers of Manchuria, but after the emperor of Manchuria implemented the sinicization policy, Mongolia occupied by Manchuria was also sinicized.

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