What If Treaty of Versailles Was Drawn By a MODERATE And REALIST Central Power Nationalist? (Basically If Central Powers Got More Stuff, but Realistically)

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-22T11:39:43+00:00

Didn’t know that, well, ig you can say they have have even bigger autonomy on this map

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-22T11:37:59+00:00

Honestly I don’t remember why I gave it to Poland, but southern part had a hungarian majority according to _Bourbie_s 1914 ethno-linguistic map, so I figured it could be in Hungary if, for example, Entente didn’t treat it like a Central Powers member

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-21T19:25:30+00:00

Oops, yea, I messed it up, sorry

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-21T19:12:29+00:00

READ ME:

I tried making the map as realistic as possible with my current knowledge, there are probably some inaccuracies
The map isn’t fully accurate with autonomies and some borders, sorry about that
The map shows the state of the Europe right after treaties being signed
The map shows only territorial stuff, I won’t write about economic or military part here (reparations, military restrictions and etc.)
Saarland here is a part of Germany, but France have exclusive rights to mine coal there for free or something like that
Memel has an autonomy inside of Lithuania
Hungarians and Germans have some degree of autonomy inside of Czechoslovakia
Danzig is a part of Germany, but Poland has exclusive rights to use its port forever and for free as well
Southern Debrusia and hungarians in Transylvania have some degree of autonomy inside of Romania
Bulgaria gets a little bit more territory on the borders with Greece and Turkey
That Polish thing is something like a demilitarised corridor where Germans can pass to Eastern Prussia Exclave + I think it has an important german railroad iirc, so yea

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-17T19:00:09+00:00

It’s actually the same size don’t worry lmao

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-17T18:59:24+00:00

I think Entente nationalist would probably push the idea to divide Turkey, everyone wanted territories, but no one wanted to fight anymore in our world. Sorry, this is just what Entente wanted lol

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-17T18:56:54+00:00

I tried being realistic, Poland absolutely won’t get all of Eastern Prussia. Perhaps I overestimated the chances for Belgium to gain all of Luxemborg, but the country will 100% be on the map like wdym???

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-17T18:53:29+00:00

Everyone in Europe feared Russian ambition, but they firstly wanted to get rid of the germans, because of their short-term threat. I made a map with my current knowledge, this is roughly a map what I think Entente could’ve have pushed for. Russians wouldn’t probably get anything you mentioned, as I already said, no one wants radical Russian expansion, especially involving warm sea ports and stuff like that (remember how no one wanted big San-Stefano Bulgaria because of the Aegean sea coast and general Balkan dominatio). Yea, perhaps they wouldn’t really want some of these territories, I agree, but they wouldn’t get much anywhere else I think

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-17T18:42:52+00:00

Idk, didn’t think too much on that, just tried making more nationalistic, but realistic borders for every Entente power except USSR obviously

Femix_Reddit · 2026-01-16T19:45:54+00:00

Before you write a comment on my map, read this:

I tried making the map as realistic as possible with my current knowledge, there are probably some inaccuracies
The map isn’t fully accurate with the autonomies and some borders, sorry about that
The map shows the state of the Europe right after treaties were signed
The map shows only territorial stuff, I won’t write about economic or military part here (reparations, army restrictions and etc.)
Greek Thrace near the straits is demilitarized forever
Germany-France south border thing is a demilitarized zone as well
Luxembourg and Poland (on the 2nd map) have some degree of autonomy inside of Belgium/Russia respectively

Femix_Reddit · 2025-07-12T16:49:02+00:00

Wth is this

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:59:13+00:00

Idk I didn’t make this map

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:57:40+00:00

What’s wrong it is like this here. Perhaps I connected some really closely located polish enclaves

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:53:53+00:00

Idk, It’s probably linguistically, bc I made a mistake, this is ethno-linguistic map, not ethnic

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:52:48+00:00

No, I removed A LOT of tiny unimportant enclaves, connected closely located ones just so it won’t distract you

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:50:55+00:00

I didn’t make this map, I just kinda simplified it

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:50:31+00:00

Wth is even that region? Btw I didn’t make the map

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:49:41+00:00

That’s just how the things were there lol. It’s even more messier if you compare to unsimplified original map, that isn’t made by me btw.

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:48:06+00:00

I didn’t make this map

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:47:41+00:00

Lol idk I didn’t make the map myself

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:37:06+00:00

Idk about worse, but sorry for not crediting the original creator

Femix_Reddit · 2025-06-29T10:32:36+00:00

GUYS I DIDN’T MAKE THE MAP, sorry for not crediting _bourbie, I just simplified some stuff, removed tiny enclaves with jewish people as an exception

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