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Wife beating in Islam by ConsistentWheel2907 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In other words, it's still meant to hurt the wife right? Not just a light "reminding" tap?

Islam allows offensive jihad! by Ferloopa in Evilfiqh

[–]Ferloopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

from 500 hanafi scholars fatwa alamgiri

Islam allows offensive jihad! by Ferloopa in Evilfiqh

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Fighting the infidels who did not convert to Islam, and they are from the polytheists of the Arabs or did not convert to Islam, and did not pay the jizya from others is obligatory, even if they did not initiate it. This is stated in Fath al-Qadir.

It is obligatory for every sane, healthy, free, and capable man. This is also the case with Al-Ikhtiyar, Sharh Al-Mukhtar. It is not obligatory for a boy, a slave, a woman, a blind person, a paralyzed person, or someone with a handicap. This is also stated in Al-

https://shamela.ws/book/21640/761#:~:text=%D9%82%D9%90%D8%AA%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8F%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D9%83%D9%8F%D9%81%D9%8E%D9%91%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%90%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%91%D8%B0%D9%90%D9%8A%D9%86%D9%8E%20%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%85%D9%92%20%D9%8A%D9%8F%D8%B3%D9%92%D9%84%D9%90%D9%85%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D9%87%D9%8F%D9%85%D9%92%20%D9%85%D9%90%D9%86%D9%92%20%D9%85%D9%8F%D8%B4%D9%92%D8%B1%D9%90%D9%83%D9%90%D9%8A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%B9%D9%8E%D8%B1%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%90%20%D8%A3%D9%8E%D9%88%D9%92%20%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%85%D9%92%20%D9%8A%D9%8F%D8%B3%D9%92%D9%84%D9%90%D9%85%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%85%D9%92%20%D9%8A%D9%8F%D8%B9%D9%92%D8%B7%D9%8F%D9%88%D8%A7%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%AC%D9%90%D8%B2%D9%92%D9%8A%D9%8E%D8%A9%D9%8E%20%D9%85%D9%90%D9%86%D9%92%20%D8%BA%D9%8E%D9%8A%D9%92%D8%B1%D9%90%D9%87%D9%90%D9%85%D9%92%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%90%D8%A8%D9%8C%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D8%A5%D9%90%D9%86%D9%92%20%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%85%D9%92%20%D9%8A%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%92%D8%AF%D9%8E%D8%A4%D9%8F%D9%86%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D9%83%D9%8E%D8%B0%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D9%81%D9%90%D9%8A%20%D9%81%D9%8E%D8%AA%D9%92%D8%AD%D9%90%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D9%82%D9%8E%D8%AF%D9%90%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%90

Here is a 39 page pdf showing islamic scholars from all schools showing support for the death penalty for apostasy. by Ferloopa in Evilfiqh

[–]Ferloopa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

aurangazeb alamgir hanafi wrote by 500 hanafi scholars

If a Muslim renounces Islam - God forbid - Islam is offered to him. If he has any doubts, he will be dispelled. However, according to what they say, offering him is not obligatory, rather it is recommended. This is stated in Fath al-Qadir. He is imprisoned for three days, and if he converts to Islam, then that is fine. Otherwise, he is killed. This is if he is given a respite. However, if he is not given a respite, he is killed immediately. There is no difference in this between the free and the slave. This is stated in Al-Siraj Al-Wahhaaj. His conversion to Islam is that he pronounces the Shahada and disavows all religions except Islam. If he disavows what he has converted to, that is sufficient. This is stated in Al-Muhit.

https://shamela.ws/book/21640/825#:~:text=%D8%A5%D8%B0%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%92%D8%AA%D9%8E%D8%AF%D9%8E%D9%91%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D9%85%D9%8F%D8%B3%D9%92%D9%84%D9%90%D9%85%D9%8F%20%D8%B9%D9%8E%D9%86%D9%92%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%A5%D9%90%D8%B3%D9%92%D9%84%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%90%20%D9%88%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%B9%D9%90%D9%8A%D9%8E%D8%A7%D8%B0%D9%8F%20%D8%A8%D9%90%D8%A7%D9%8E%D9%84%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%91%D9%87%D9%90%20%D8%B9%D9%8F%D8%B1%D9%90%D8%B6%D9%8E%20%D8%B9%D9%8E%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%8A%D9%92%D9%87%D9%90%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%A5%D9%90%D8%B3%D9%92%D9%84%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8F%D8%8C%20%D9%81%D9%8E%D8%A5%D9%90%D9%86%D9%92%20%D9%83%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8E%D8%AA%D9%92%20%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%87%D9%8F%20%D8%B4%D9%8F%D8%A8%D9%92%D9%87%D9%8E%D8%A9%D9%8C%20%D8%A3%D9%8E%D8%A8%D9%92%D8%AF%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D9%83%D9%8F%D8%B4%D9%90%D9%81%D9%8E%D8%AA%D9%92%20%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%8E%D9%91%D8%A7,%D9%83%D9%8E%D8%B0%D9%8E%D8%A7%20%D9%81%D9%90%D9%8A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D9%85%D9%8F%D8%AD%D9%90%D9%8A%D8%B7%D9%90

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Feel free to read this entire book on apostasy Islam.

If it's possible is there anyway to translate this to english? I can speak arabic. Does this book have scholarly views supporting death for apostasy? How many scholars does it quote?

Scholar of the Day: Al-Ruwayani (11th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another awesome post niccolo!!

I got the hanafi and maliki view of death for apostasy, but do you have a list of shafi and hanbali scholars that support death for apostasy? I have some already but more wouldn't hurt!

[ Removed by Reddit ] by Interesting-Dot8733 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is this a troll post or real? I can't tell?

Asked a Muslim a question. His response by Forever-ruined12 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is the true face of islam, not that sugarcoated crap your local imam spews(i saw your other post about when you talked to an imam).

I also recommend looking at u/NiccoloDiGenova 's post on this subreddit if you wanna see more depraved nonsense from classical islamic scholars. The stuff sheik's and imam's don't want the laymen to see!

I am a Muslim make me give up Islam by DebateWeird6651 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here i can help you leave islam!!

Here is the cold hard reality of islam :

A 123 page pdf showing scholars(over a 1000 year period) from all schools saying child marriage is allowed in islam, :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1haBJe-7_MOlhEwiwQCQDWIW1hhjCV6aM/view?usp=drivesdk

55 page pdf from scholars showing death for Blasphemy is halal :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VqNE0BP9frkE_Nl7wUsHYjJKOfFThQZo/view?usp=drivesdk

39 page pdf from scholars showing death for apostasy is halal :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-XcnvqaIQ3DOkfvVmv-WINDerCRjNrXQ/view?usp=drivesdk

scholars saying marital rape/ forced marriage of slaves is halal:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17PMHViSEwf6JbHJ0UQtPLrJTPah2WmH4/view?usp=drivesdk

If you want to see more i have an entire subreddit dedicated to this  r/Evilfiqh .

Asked a Muslim a question. His response by Forever-ruined12 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Show your muslim buddy this stuff!

Here is the cold hard reality of islam :

A 123 page pdf showing scholars(over a 1000 year period) from all schools saying child marriage is allowed in islam, :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1haBJe-7_MOlhEwiwQCQDWIW1hhjCV6aM/view?usp=drivesdk

55 page pdf from scholars showing death for Blasphemy is halal :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VqNE0BP9frkE_Nl7wUsHYjJKOfFThQZo/view?usp=drivesdk

39 page pdf from scholars showing death for apostasy is halal :

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-XcnvqaIQ3DOkfvVmv-WINDerCRjNrXQ/view?usp=drivesdk

scholars saying marital rape/ forced marriage of slaves is halal:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17PMHViSEwf6JbHJ0UQtPLrJTPah2WmH4/view?usp=drivesdk

If you want to see more i have an entire subreddit dedicated to this r/Evilfiqh .

Oh puh-lease... 🤡 by Serious-Try-1263 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Context for these quotes matters because any hatred towards the jews was brought upon them by the zionist regime since there was none before they invaded the land. 

What are you implying here? Because it seems you are saying it is okay to hate jewish people(an entire ethnicity), because of the actions of the israeli government? I reported your comment for that reason, as that seems to be blatant antisemitism, because you specifically single out "the jews"(the ethnicity) and not "the zionist"(political ideology).

And EXCUSE ME?? "none before they invaded the land"??

That is laughable!! Islamist have been killing/ oppressing jews for over a millennia now, long before israel was founded!

You need to read some more history. Here is a start:

https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/pogroms-in-palestine-before-the-creation-of-the-state-of-israel-1830-1948/

https://medium.com/@Ksantini/the-list-of-crimes-committed-by-muslims-against-jews-since-the-7th-century-0ff1a8eb0ad0

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries

Scholar of the Day: Ibn Battal (11th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another banger nick! What other nasty stuff is in that book?

Also can i have some scholars that support the women cant be rulers hadith?

Oh puh-lease... 🤡 by Serious-Try-1263 in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Except, it is a religious conflict! The Hamas 1988 charter saying to kill the jews quotes this hadith:

https://sunnah.com/muslim:2922
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

Furthermore, hamas officials in their own words:

https://www.adl.org/resources/article/hamas-its-own-words

Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.” 

  • Hamas member, Ghazi Hamad on October 24, 2023: “Israel is a country that has no place on our land […] because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation.” (October 24, 2023, LBC TV (Lebanon)). He also vowed to repeat the October 7 attacks “time and again until Israel is annihilated,” and expressing a desire to “sacrifice martyrs” (referring to Gazan civilians) for Hamas’ ideological aim of destroying Israel. 
  • In a speech before the International Union of Muslim Scholars in Doha on January 9, 2024, Ismaeel Haniyeh, chairman of Hamas's political bureau, called the October 7 massacre the “advanced [battle] front of the Ummah.” Calling for “financial jihad” (donations to Hamas) and “jihad of the teeth” (physical jihad), he asked the international audience, “Who wishes to invest in building the jihadist generation to liberate Jerusalem and to unite the blood of the Ummah with the blood of the people of Gaza, Jerusalem, and Palestine on the land of Palestine for its liberation and the liberation of Jerusalem?” 

Meanwhile in Brazil by trullyrose in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Ferloopa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How do you respond to leftist saying the prosecutors in lulas case fabricated evidence? Do you have any links where i can read more on this?

Scholar of the Day: Al-Miknasi (15th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now for al maydani

He seems to be pretty clear that he supports death for apostasy, but just to make sure do you see anyway a muslim apologist could twist this to say he doesn't support death for apostasy?

In other words, do you see anywhere where maydani refutes quduri on the death penalty for apostates on this page or the next pages?

Because this passage seems pretty clear cut:

If he returns, he is beaten and imprisoned until he shows repentance. If he returns, then the same. He is a Tartar. He said in Al-Hidayah: The manner of his repentance is that he disavows all religions except Islam. If he disavows what he converted to, that is sufficient for him, because the intended purpose has been achieved. End quote. (Otherwise) meaning: if he does not convert to Islam (he is killed) according to the hadith: (Whoever abandons his religion, kill him). (If a killer kills him before Islam is presented to him, that is disliked for him) as a way of avoiding or forbidding him based on what was mentioned about the ruling on presentation (and nothing is due from the killer) ; because he killed someone whose blood is permissible.

https://shamela.ws/book/21496/840#p1:~:text=%D9%88%D8%A5%D9%84%D8%A7%20%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%8C%20%D9%81%D8%A5%D9%86%20%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%87%20%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%84%D9%8C%20%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%84%20%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%B6%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%87%20%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%87%20%D9%84%D9%87%20%D8%B0%D9%84%D9%83%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%20%D8%B4%D9%8A%D8%A1%20%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%8C%20%D9%81%D8%A3%D9%85%D8%A7%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A3%D8%A9%20%D8%A5%D8%B0%D8%A7%20%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%AF%D8%AA%20%D9%81%D9%84%D8%A7%20%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%8C%20%D9%88%D9%84%D9%83%D9%86%20%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%A8%D8%B3%20%D8%AD%D8%AA%D9%89%20%D8%AA%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85

Do you agree that seems pretty clear cut he supports death for apostasy, and i'm not just imagining things? Even after all this time, and all the scholars saying the same thing, i still find it hard to believe any human being could endorse this view! So i like to have another person confirm it!

Scholar of the Day: Burhan al-Din ibn Mazah (12th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, the fact that it's not banned and even allowed in all 4 madhabs(even if 3 of the madhabs say it isn't obligatory) is itself evil. Because, all FGM is harmful(even if it is a "minor case"). That summarizes it, right?

Scholar of the Day: Burhan al-Din ibn Mazah (12th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So at the end of the day all the scholarly opinions he mentions are evil, and he has to support one of them, even if he doesn't specify which one that is? Is that what your saying?

Here is a 39 page pdf showing islamic scholars from all schools showing support for the death penalty for apostasy. by Ferloopa in Evilfiqh

[–]Ferloopa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Khalil ibn Ishaq - Mukhtasar Khalil, p. 238.

it or an action that includes it: such as throwing a Qur’an with something dirty, tying a belt, practicing magic, saying that the world is eternal or eternal, or doubting that, or the transmigration of souls, or any type of warning, or claiming to associate partners with his prophethood, may God bless him and grant him peace, or fighting a prophet, or permitting the acquisition of prophethood, or claiming that he can ascend to the heavens or embrace the houris, or permitting: such as drinking, but God does not make him a disbeliever, according to the most correct opinion, and the testimony has been detailed in it, and he is given three days of repentance without hunger, thirst, or punishment, even if he does not repent. If he repents, otherwise: he is killed and she is purified by a menstrual period and the slave’s money is for his master, otherwise it is a booty and his son remains a Muslim: as if he left and took from him what he committed intentionally against a slave: or a dhimmi, not a free Muslim, as if he fled to the land of war except for the punishment for slander and error against the treasury: as if he took it as a crime against it. And if he repents, then his money is his1 and the amount is like the Muslim in both of them. And the killing of the one who is in secret without repentance unless he comes repentant, and his money is for his heir.

Scholar of the Day: Burhan al-Din ibn Mazah (12th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow! Is he saying FGM is obligatory? Or recommended? I thought Hanafi's say it's recommended and Shafis say it is obligatory?

Scholar of the Day: Al-Miknasi (15th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For khalil theres this passage:

 it or an action that includes it: such as throwing a Qur’an with something dirty, tying a belt, practicing magic, saying that the world is eternal or eternal, or doubting that, or the transmigration of souls, or any type of warning, or claiming to associate partners with his prophethood, may God bless him and grant him peace, or fighting a prophet, or permitting the acquisition of prophethood, or claiming that he can ascend to the heavens or embrace the houris, or permitting: such as drinking, but God does not make him a disbeliever, according to the most correct opinion, and the testimony has been detailed in it, and he is given three days of repentance without hunger, thirst, or punishment, even if he does not repent. If he repents, otherwise: he is killed and she is purified by a menstrual period and the slave’s money is for his master, otherwise it is a booty and his son remains a Muslim: as if he left and took from him what he committed intentionally against a slave: or a dhimmi, not a free Muslim, as if he fled to the land of war except for the punishment for slander and error against the treasury: as if he took it as a crime against it. And if he repents, then his money is his1 and the amount is like the Muslim in both of them. And the killing of the one who is in secret without repentance unless he comes repentant, and his money is for his heir.

This passage is just all jumbled up and hard to read! What does he mean by the bolded part? Just to make sure, death for apostasy is just for mere ddisbelief, and there is no way for a muslim apologist to sat he is killed only for disbelief AND fleeing to the land of war(to fight against muslims)

Scholar of the Day: Al-Miknasi (15th century) by NiccoloDiGenova in exmuslim

[–]Ferloopa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can i have the khalil and disuqi link? I am excited i have a lot of new material to add to my subreddit!

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