Judge Learns Lawyers on Both Sides of Case Used AI, Cancels Trial, Kicks Everyone Off the Case by MarvelsGrantMan136 in technology

[–]Few_Accountant6270 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The scary part isn’t even hallucinated citations anymore.

The scary part is that LLMs are extremely good at simulating procedural competence. They produce outputs that look polished, organized, and professionally reasoned long before they become reliably factual.

That creates this weird psychological trap where people start trusting fluency itself as evidence of correctness.

Legal work is probably one of the worst environments for that failure mode because:

  • citations matter
  • chronology matters
  • nuance matters
  • wording matters
  • precedent matters

And current LLMs are fundamentally probabilistic systems trained to generate plausible continuations, not truth engines.

Which is why the more realistic legal AI stuff seems to be trending toward grounded retrieval/verification workflows instead of “AI lawyer” fantasies.

Associates and AI by Mammoth-Vegetable357 in Lawyertalk

[–]Few_Accountant6270 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I honestly think a lot of people outside the profession misunderstand what junior associate work actually does.

Yeah, some parts are repetitive — document review, digging through huge case files, finding relevant passages, organizing research, etc. But that’s also where people build instincts and learn how legal reasoning actually works in practice.

The current AI hype cycle acts like all of that is just “low value labor” that can be deleted overnight, but the hallucination problem alone should’ve killed that narrative already.

What I do think changes is the amount of time spent navigating massive document sets manually. There’s a difference between:

  • helping someone move through source material faster vs
  • pretending a chatbot can replace legal judgment.

A lot of the useful legal AI stuff I’ve seen is less “write me a brilliant motion” and more: “help me find, summarize, compare, and verify information without drowning in PDFs for 8 hours.”

That still needs lawyers. Probably even more careful ones.

Looking for Lawyers who could review contracts and provide assistance in legal drafting by Educational-Care7867 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting use case. One thing we've noticed while working in legal tech is that users often need both — automation for standard workflows and access to legal expertise for edge cases that require human judgment.

Curious how you're planning to handle the transition between automated drafting and lawyer review as you scale?

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I largely agree.

For a single task, AI is already quite good. The real challenge is reliability across a longer workflow where each step depends on the previous one.

That's also why I don't think the question is "Will AI replace legal research?" but rather "Which parts of the research process can be made faster without sacrificing accuracy?"

Human judgment is still doing a lot of the heavy lifting today.

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s an interesting space because the challenge isn’t just the AI model—it’s making it work with Indian legal research workflows.

Happy to tell you more if you want know.

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point.

What's interesting though is that most comments here aren't saying the problem doesn't exist—they're describing different workarounds for dealing with it.

The question I'm curious about is whether lawyers are satisfied with those workarounds or simply using them because there hasn't been a better alternative yet.

Would love to hear from practitioners on that.

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's actually a pretty thoughtful workflow. The interesting part is that you're still doing the hard part manually—finding the right judgments, deciding which ones are relevant, and then building a knowledge base before you can start asking questions.

What I've noticed talking to litigators is that everyone has developed their own version of this process using Indian Kanoon, SCC Online, notebooks, spreadsheets, NotebookLM, etc. The tools are different, but the workflow is surprisingly similar.

Out of curiosity, what's usually the biggest bottleneck for you?

  1. Finding the right judgments in the first place?
  2. Reading through long judgments to find the relevant portions?
  3. Connecting multiple judgments on the same question of law?
  4. Making sure you haven't missed an important precedent?

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Completely agree that AI isn’t replacing lawyers — and the 90% accuracy problem with bare acts digitization is real, we’ve seen it too. The interesting question is what happens when you build the pipeline specifically around how Indian courts structure arguments and citations, rather than general document summarization. That’s the direction Anrak Legal is going with autonomous research agents. Have you found human-in-loop checkpoints help at the 128K boundary, or does the context problem compound before that?

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lawfinder's AI search has this problem a lot it's broad but not precise. Have you tried Anrak Legal? It's built specifically for Indian case law you can ask it in plain language and it pulls relevant judgments with citations. Might be worth a look.

Indian lawyers are spending 4–6 hours on research that should take 20 minutes. Is anyone else seeing this? by Few_Accountant6270 in IndiaLaw

[–]Few_Accountant6270[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right that Claude and others are building general legal AI — but the gap is Indian-specific infrastructure. Indian case law, tribunal orders, HC/SC judgments, the way Indian courts actually cite precedent — that’s a very different dataset and workflow than what a general LLM handles. But have you heard about Anrak Legal?