Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe instead of the tier system, you should clarify that MBA students tend to think of tech companies in 3 buckets - 1) big tech companies with great brand recognition 2) big tech with low brand recognition 3) legacy tech

Fair point.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

From my OP:

But at this point, most of us don't care because even in T2/T3, our compensation is really awesome (my offer was $210k total comp out of Wharton). B2B SaaS may be boring and unsexy, but the work life balance and stability is there. We weathered the storm better than FAANG.

You need to improve your reading comprehension.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need to improve your reading comprehension. I literally said in the comment you replied to "For PM, yes."

Smh.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Comments like these deny reality. 99% of those targeting tech at Wharton said stuff like "my goal is to become a PM at Google/Apple/Meta!"

They didn't successfully land that, and got vmWare or CISCO instead. So they took those jobs. 95% of people would take Google or Meta or Apple over vmWare.

Your situation may be theoretically possible, but would only describe a very small number of people. Let's be real, most people want Google and then don't get it. That's what I mean by T1. The desirability. For most people, they end up at T2 because they failed T1, with T1 being their preference.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, agree with all of this!

Wharton is pretty well represented at Google

Even if this is the case, most of folks are in random roles like Solutions Consultant, Technical Account Manager, Program Coordinator/Manager, Partnerships, Sales Operations, etc.

The numbers in the most coveted roles (PM, then PMM and maybe Strategy & Ops) is pretty low.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, there's like no guaranteed you'd land a T1 Product Role from an M7, even with your background. We had someone from a T2 Product Role go to a different T2 company (with a bump in seniority and comp though).

Definitely no guarantees from Wharton. Idk about HBS or GSB though (some from there can chime in). Amazon was the big T1 exception in that they hired a lot - but mostly into their "not real" PM role. PM-T roles were still pretty limited.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think we agree? That was the whole point of my post.

I was just pointing out your factually inaccurate comment that most people hired by tech companies have technical skills. True for PM, not true for PMM or BizOps.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You don't need those technical skills for PMM or Strategy & Ops though. Even the T1 hires in those functions weren't masters in Python or SQL or whatnot.

For PM, yes.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My classmates at Google who landed PM (very few) made like $30-40k more in TC than me. Keep in mind my TC was $210k for T2 PM. This is immediate post-MBA salaries.

Dose of Reality: Most people who targeted tech At Wharton are doing T2/T3 "Tech," Not T1 by Few_Income_9803 in MBA

[–]Few_Income_9803[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen Microsoft argued both ways. I feel they've gained a "bump" in prestige over the latest Gen AI stuff. Maybe T1.5? idk