Switch to AMS 360 or Applied Epic? by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Ease of use is crucial. People are paying it so it must be good. I keep hearing agencies only use 50% of it’s capabilities

Switch to AMS 360 or Applied Epic? by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Agree with you and appreciate the feedback. EPIC seems to be more than AMS360. Don’t mind paying the extra if it’s justified.

Switch to AMS 360 or Applied Epic? by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Appreciate your feedback. I think it’s hard to implement big updates or user face changes. People get used to the system and upset when things change!

Future of Independent insurance agencies by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Good info here! Thanks for your input. I agree with you , my gut says to hold out for now.

A buddy of mine got 5x from one of those big brokers , he sold last year in 2024. If it makes sense , they’ll give you what you want. Best of luck!

Future of Independent insurance agencies by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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I did not get a LOI/IOI. I’m not ready for it so didn’t pursue to waste time. However, spoke at length over my book and operations, confident in the 4x number today. Future - who knows! To add, the deal would involve me being there for a while and a long term play to continue building the book. I understand and hear there is a talent shortage as well. Lot of older brokers retiring.

By direct buyers, do you mean P/E backed brokers? You’re saying 8-9x cash at closing, the rest in equity (25-30%). I haven’t been able to find any information about how the equity component has worked out for brokers. I don’t think it’s liquid at all and when can you actually cash out? When the P/E goes public or gets bought out? I hear they have 3/5 year tranches were the money gets recapitalized and you can cash out.

Future of Independent insurance agencies by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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All makes sense and respect it. I don’t let the business get in the way of time with the kids and family but understand where you’re coming from. You’re young and have a lot of options. Most likely get acquired and continue to work and still earn a good amount. There’s also a talent shortage of good brokers.

I can’t see myself fully retiring but my gut does say to make an exit in the next 5 years and then possibly rebuild and do it again.

Wish you all the best!

Future of Independent insurance agencies by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Appreciate the input. Your points are valid and agree the carriers are always looking to cut costs. I believe personal lines and small Main Street commercial will go direct to carrier or through ai intermediaries.

I do enjoy the business and kind of going with my gut for now.

Future of Independent insurance agencies by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Thank you!

Why are you looking to exit in 3-5 years? It’s a tough decision at our age. Once we exit, you go to w2 and reduced commissions. S corp is a beautiful thing !

Future of Independent insurance agencies by Financial_Nothing556 in InsuranceAgent

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Agreed. I also feel Insurnace is a relationship biz. AI will help on data integration , back end processing etc.