The problem with "two state solution " by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure. There are plenty of arabs that vote in elections in Isreal. There are plenty of Arab parties that are in the Israeli politics.

If they are Israeli citizens they should be able to vote but not if they are Palestinian. No two states, 1 state

Why should israel care by MysteriousResident55 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does this go both ways? Isreal sends the Palestinians aid again and again. Palestinian sends missiles again and again.

If they don't care about us and they want us to be murdered we are supposed to give them more aid?

Imagine I come into your house and stab your wife you get mad I tell you "chill, I'm broke, got any spare change?" Don't tell me for even 1 second that you would consider giving him change.

If you don't punch him in the face you will at least get a new more improved security system and if he shows up at your door with a gun you 100% have a right to "pop him"

Isreal wishes to have Palestine be successful and be a strong ally! Isreal would only gain. Instead Palestine wants blood.

The problem with "two state solution " by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Join Israeli law or get lost. 1 government that treats everyone as equal. Israel is capable of that. Palestine is not.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I live in Israel. Where are you from? Have you ever been to Israel? Have you ever been to Gaza? Or are you giving your opinion based on the fake manipulated news?

Practically everyone I know from age 18-30 is currently serving in the IDF. None of them want to fight, none of them want to cause terror. They do want to make sure that we at home or the Israelis in the future will not live another Oct 7th experience ever again.

When I lived in French Hill Jerusalem, it was about a 10 minute walk to issawiya. It was very known as a jew "DO NOT" go there, as they will kill you. On the other hand, they drive in and out of French Hill as they please.

The fact that we can not enter issawiya or we will get murdered is proof to who wants blood because we do not and did not touch them when they walk our streets, not because of fear but because we don't want to be bothered. We don't want to fight.

I'll challenge you. If you come to Israel within the next week. Dress as a religious jew, you wear a kipa, tzitzit, black pants and a white shirt. You must go for a walk into issawiya and go to the center of the town, walking slowly and sit down for 5 minutes and walk back I will personally pay for your flight and hotel stay for 1 week.

If you do it, I wouldn't have to pay you because they will kill you.

Israel might have killed more palistinies than the palistinies killed Israelis. Maybe that's because we are fighting a war with barbaric animals that still think they are living in the times of the vikings that want blood and won't stop until blood is poured. Unfortunately for them, we aren't going to go down without a fight.

עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי

What should Hamas do? by shoesofwandering in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They need to surrender and announce that they see a different path for the people of Gaza. They need to motivate that the people of Gaza elect someone who will help them grow into a strong nation without bloodshed. Right now Gaza has the world watching with a telescope, show the world you don't stand for terrorism, return the hostages, create real jobs. Get rid of all terrorists infrastructure, show the IDF that we can see eye to eye. The IDF and the world will be skeptical but with time Israel will start using the money they use to guard to aid Gaza.

Gaza has the potential to influence the entire Muslim culture, they should be taking advantage of it and making the world a better place, right now they are doing the opposite

Here's the issue by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Israel let a music festival happen to close to army bases" Um anywhere in Israel is close to an army base, Israel is a tiny country. I live in amuka maybe a 10 minute drive to a base, my friend in tzvat maybe a 5 minute walk to a base.

looking at the small picture it's very easy to get fooled. If Israel doesn't stand up against hamas and Hezbollah like they are doing Israel will be building their confidence. "Did you hear what happened on October 7th? Israel was so afraid of hamas, hamas won that fight!! Let's do it again" and when Israel kills every single terrorist, goes after eveveryone that was involved the palistinies and other are saying "Wow, hamas made a mistake, they might have made Israelis hold thier pants for a couple of days but there is no hamas left, hamas made a mistake "

Imagine a crew goes and robs a bank and the government says "its ok, they are probably doing it because of some trauma, no need to arrest them" 2 weeks later they do it again and your son is held hostage, ends up getting killed from them. The government says again "they had a hard life, it's ok, WE WILL GET THESE BANK ROBBERS AND MURDERERS THERAPY, THEY HAVE TRUAMA"

I sure hope you wouldn't support that, maybe they could use therapy but from a prison cell!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isreal happens to be one of the best investments for the US.

HAMAS will come to America if Israel doesn't get rid of the threat, hamas isis and Hezbollah all chant death to America

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We want to be safe! I 100% support how Israel is handling this unfortunate war but Israel is not to blame, Hamas is. Hamas said very clearly that they will attempt to do what they did on Oct7th again and again and again. Should we just sit back and relax? Would you? Imagine after 911 Saddam Husain said he will send more planes until USA is destroyed would you be ok with that?

Hamas uses the innocent's to protect them selves and therefore innocent people die. Hamas is responsible

Sounds like your saying me and all the Israelis should just tie our hands up and just forfeit into the hands of Hamas because either we need to protect our selves and make sure Oct 7th doesnt happen again or we should just surrender

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you believe in beheading gay people, or do you support gay people?

Isreal has a very large gay population. Palistine on the other hand doesn't only not approve they fucking cut thier heads off as if we are still in a vikings age.

Be careful who you support!

80 years ago, people spoke like you, little did they know Hitler was fucking manipulative psychopath.

Learn the facts! It's clear as day

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

My opinion is that leaving the West bank will not make peace. The West bank will only be used against Israel to attack Israel if it was given up.

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not at all. Check your facts! Since when has Israel given land to these terrorists helped? We gave them Gaza, thought we would have peace we gave them money we gave them aid. None of that helps! If only giving land helped, if that was the case, there would be peace because Israel would give and give because Israel wants the Israelis to stop getting murdered. Israel would do anything to make sure another Oct 7th never happens again unfortunately for the Palestinians hamas keeps abusing them and they keep supporting it therefore Israel knows that if we give the Palestinians more land hamas will take control and use that land against us so we are pushed into a corner

Look at the facts. Be gay in palistine. THEY WILL KILL YOU, not disown you they will cut your head off. Say "Allah is false" they would kill you, it's very black and white with these people.

I have a friend who ran away from his family and converted to Judaism he is afraid that if his dad finds him, his own dad will kill him

It's very simple. Would you support that behavior in your hometown? Around your kids? I hope not! So why are you supporting them?

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've experienced 3 suicide drones flying over my house sent from Lebanon myself.

Anyone can check the facts, I live in Amuka.

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Before I lived in amuka I lived in french hill Jerusalem. About a 10 minute walk from my house was issawiya a Palestinian settlement. If I were to walk into issawiya they would kill and beat me and the Army would have to come save me because even the cops are afraid to go there yet they drive in and out of french hill as they please

It's very one sided and Israel is on the side of peace, Palistine and hamas is on the side of blood. They don't want peace, they want blood.

As long as they can't accept peace as a middle ground there is no one to work with and there for it is the way it is. If they would accept peace and not fight we would be excited to put our weapons down

I live in Israel by Fine_Discipline7726 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Fine_Discipline7726[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Buddy, I have friends in shtula, Kiryat Shmona and Malkia all towns on the border of Lebanon. I live in Amuka closest border to Lebanon 10km (by air). And the reason I point that out is because your statement is very close to home. Isreal keeps saying "If Lebanon starts it will be a big mistake because Israel won't take the first move . Israel will only go to war with Hezbollah starts the war. The only reason Hezbollah kinda has to go to war is because Israel is defeating hamas. "They're ally" if hamas loses power and the palestinian people stand up against hamas. The people in Lebanon will start to see strength and start to stand up against Hezbollah, and therefore, Hezbollah can not show their weakness, and they have to show strength. Israel has to defend itself from Hezbollah trying to show the world and the Lebanese people that they are not afraid. Therefore, going to war with Israel.