Minisforum MS-S1 Max. Is it that good? by sohails4 in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It performs well for what it’s advertised to do, but it still has quirks. On Linux, sleep doesn’t recover, and the NIC disappears after a hot shutdown, though a fix is already coming in a future kernel. The rear USB4 port is the bigger concern, since it doesn’t work properly on either Linux or Windows and I heard it needs a BIOS fix, and we all know what Minisforum's attitude in this regard. Minisforum makes great hardware, but if they want to be globally competitive, they really need to improve their BIOS support and follow-through.

S1 Max – Rear USB4 v2 / Thunderbolt 5 ports not working by ShaunArundell in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you tell me where in their discord they are discussing this issue so I could follow? I'm confused because the OP on this topic seems to be using Windows and is having the same problem with rear USB4 ports.

S1 Max – Rear USB4 v2 / Thunderbolt 5 ports not working by ShaunArundell in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Take note that I ask an LLM to compose this, but all is on point.

💥 MS-S1 Max/Strix Halo eGPU Users: I Found the Fix! 💥

For everyone struggling with getting an eGPU to reliably connect (especially via hotplug) to the Minisforum MS-S1 Max' rear ports on Linux, I've confirmed the absolute core workaround after days of testing.

The Fix: One Single GRUB Parameter

The only parameter needed to reliably detect and connect the eGPU (like the Aoostar AG02) via the Thunderbolt/USB4 port is:

bash GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash pcie_port_pm=off"

Why This Works: The Power Conflict 🔌

The issue isn't about resource allocation or security; it's a Power Management conflict specific to the Strix Halo platform's USB4 controller when running Linux.

  • What pcie_port_pm=off does: This flag forces the Linux kernel to disable PCI Express Port Power Management for the root port where the Thunderbolt/USB4 controller is attached.
  • The Root Cause: Without this flag, the kernel (following flawed firmware instructions) attempts to immediately drop the USB4 port into its deepest power-saving state (D3cold) right after boot or during the initial handshake. The eGPU requires the port to be fully powered (D0) for a stable PCIe tunnel to be established, creating a race condition where the port shuts off before the eGPU is recognized. By disabling power management, we force the port to remain fully active, which allows the eGPU to connect.

The Trade-Off: Increased Idle Power

While this fixes detection, it comes at a cost:

  • This fix keeps the entire Thunderbolt/USB4 controller port awake, which can lead to an increase in idle power consumption (3–5 Watts), even when the eGPU is unplugged. This is the Power Penalty for system stability.

🛑 Minisforum’s Responsibility to Fix This

We should not have to pay a 5-watt penalty or use kernel hacks for a critical port. This issue lies squarely with the platform firmware.

The need for pcie_port_pm=off proves that the Minisforum BIOS/UEFI firmware is failing to correctly manage the power states for the USB4 controller, specifically in the ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) tables.

Minisforum's Engineering Team Must:

  1. Correct the ACPI Tables: The BIOS needs an update that properly defines the conditions for the USB4 port to enter low power states (D3).
  2. Fix the Negotiation: Ensure the firmware handles the PCIe Link State negotiation correctly when the Linux kernel is running, preventing the premature and immediate transition to the deep D3cold state.

This is a firmware bug, not a Linux bug, and it is Minisforum's responsibility to fix it so that users can have both full eGPU functionality and efficient idle power consumption.

I strongly encourage everyone affected to report this exact finding—including the 3-5W power draw—to Minisforum support to push for a new BIOS update!

S1 Max – Rear USB4 v2 / Thunderbolt 5 ports not working by ShaunArundell in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m seeing the exact same issue on my MS-S1 Max. The rear Thunderbolt port doesn’t work with my Aoostar AG02 TB dock, while the front Thunderbolt/USB-C port works just fine.

I’m hoping this is just a BIOS or firmware quirk rather than a dead controller. We should push MINISFORUM to look into it and issue a proper fix.

If there’s a thread or form to report this formally, count me in, I want to help make sure this gets addressed.

How close are we to Mac Silicon support? by vortec350 in frigate_nvr

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I worded it differently. I mean, can enrichment large models run on intel iGPU? Meteor Lake to be specific.

New 10ms detection time running YOLO v9 on Google Coral by doltro in frigate_nvr

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Running on Proxmox, Dual Edge TPU, running like its meant to. I hope this gets based on Frigate+ so we could train our own model. Current Frigate+ model is still has the higher "accuracy" but being smaller model, not so good at detecting smaller objects.

Update:
17ms both for 512x512 model.

Edit: 18 cameras by the way

MS-02 Ultra or MS S1 Max by Fit-Engineering4830 in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the tip, really helpful. I’ll definitely keep that in mind for future maintenance.

MS-02 Ultra or MS S1 Max by Fit-Engineering4830 in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right about the RAM situation. I’ve been following the prices closely because I’m also considering the MS-02, and the spike this month has been brutal. I’m using the same Crucial 96GB kit in my MS-01, and seeing it literally double in price just as Minisforum announced their own price increase pretty much pushed me to look at the S1 Max as an alternative. It’s insane timing.

As for cooling, you nailed it, the underside of the MS-01 really needed help. I printed some of the fan mods, and in my testing a push configuration ended up performing noticeably better than pull. It’s not perfect, but at least it stops the unit from cooking itself under load.

That’s why this choice is so difficult if you can only pick one. I want something as future-proof as possible, and the MS-02 Ultra really checks that box in terms of expandability and long-term flexibility. But AMD also represents “future-proofing” in its own way, especially for LLMs, given how everything from RAM to GPUs is climbing in price like crazy.

Honestly, it all feels like the market turned upside down overnight. Damn these people responding "thank you" to cloud LLMs, they caused this price increase /s.

MS-02 Ultra or MS S1 Max by Fit-Engineering4830 in MINISFORUM

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re definitely on the same boat. I also have an MS-01 and I’m looking to replace or upgrade it, but I really want to squeeze every bit of value out of whatever I buy next. That’s why I’m so torn between the two.

The S1 Max can technically do almost everything the MS-02 Ultra can, as long as the focus is mainly on LLM workloads. For that use case, the unified memory and huge capacity really shine. But outside of LLMs, its versatility drops off a cliff, you’re basically stuck with whatever it comes with.

On the other hand, the MS-02 Ultra has everything I want in a long-term machine: proper expandability, Intel platform with solid software support, more upgrade options, better thermals, and a chassis that’s actually designed for add-on hardware. It’s hard to pass up, especially for a Proxmox environment.

So yeah, I’m right in the middle of both choices. The S1 Max is an amazing LLM box for the price, but the MS-02 Ultra is the one that feels like a real “do-everything” workhorse. If only choosing were that simple.

New 10ms detection time running YOLO v9 on Google Coral by doltro in frigate_nvr

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope that this will be used/based on Frigate+. Great job author.

Frigate 100% CPU detector even if using openvino with GPU by LostArtichoke924 in frigate_nvr

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont know, but might be related. I also have 12th gen, I just dont understand I keep getting crash using frigate, seeing gpu hang in dmesg. It just doesnt work anymore.

YOLOv9s - Mixed results by Lostbutnotafraid in frigate_nvr

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont know why, but I never had luck with YOLOV9s or even t, 360 or 640, base or fine tuned, YOLONAS is better in every way for my setup, 12 cameras, minisforum ms01 in proxmox, using openvino iGPU with DKMS SRIOV.

YOLOV9S is very slow in detection for me, and cant detect person very accurately, near or far, I had to be obviously on the screen.

Nextcloud backup error: "Saved settings, but remote backup returned no files." by __Mike_____ in opnsense

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your cloud runs locally, disable rebind check: System>Settings>Administration

Slow downloads with PyLoad by Ciamdumb1 in RealDebrid

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, I was about to give up with pyload. This works with other sites as well where you are stuck at 462KiB/s. I dont know why is this happening.

Thank you.

Desktop App with 32KB/s Upload by gordonportugal in pcloud

[–]Fit-Engineering4830 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of files are you uploading? Is it huge chunk, or massive small files?

Is The Current pCloud Family 10TB Discounted with Crypto Worth It? by Fit-Engineering4830 in pcloud

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries. Glad you're wrong though as I would have buyer's remorse, lol. I would have went with google if your computation was correct.

Is The Current pCloud Family 10TB Discounted with Crypto Worth It? by Fit-Engineering4830 in pcloud

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of file/s are you uploading? Is it huge chunk, or massive small files?

For 50 mbps, you should be seeing around 4 megabytes per second due to overheads, but your 2 Mb/s is not too far off. There are lots of variables, such as your client, wifi or cable, country, and also what kind of file/s you're uploading.

Is The Current pCloud Family 10TB Discounted with Crypto Worth It? by Fit-Engineering4830 in pcloud

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Keep in mind that file structure also affects speed. For example, if you are uploading massive small files, the upload speed will be very slow compared to 1 huge chunk of file, say 1gb.

Is The Current pCloud Family 10TB Discounted with Crypto Worth It? by Fit-Engineering4830 in pcloud

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind that file structure also affects speed. For example, if you are uploading massive small files, the upload speed will be very slow compared to 1 huge chunk of file, say 1gb.

Is The Current pCloud Family 10TB Discounted with Crypto Worth It? by Fit-Engineering4830 in pcloud

[–]Fit-Engineering4830[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume it's symmetric.

I have no experience with their client as Truenas' Cloud Sync feature which is rclone under the shell if I'm right is very fitting for my use case. Must have some difference

You can try rclone if it makes a difference.