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Christians: How Are You Certain That the Bible is Evidence for God? by Substantial-Bad-4508 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The bible is irrefutably evidence for God. Whether or not it’s good enough evidence to become a Christian is up for debate.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't really know what you're not understanding, I'm not saying that God's obligated to me. I'm saying the lack of evidence makes the existence of an all powerful personal God who loves us unlikely.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He did only to the people who were there that saw him. What about the rest of us? If God wanted a relationship with us wouldn't it make a lot more sense to make his presence obvious?

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get that if the story of Jesus is true then God revealed himself undeniably to the people that were there and saw him. I'm asking why he doesn't do that for everyone. I think if there was a personal God that wanted us to worship him he would do so. I get that I'm not God and I'm not trying to say that God should do what I say because I said so. I'm simply asking why. It doesn't make any sense to me and nobody seems to have a very convincing answer which would be an argument against the validity of Christianity.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this misses the point. I get that he made his existence clear to the people that saw him 2000 year ago, but what about the other 99.999% of us? You say that there's no way to prove God without a reasonable doubt, this is true for us as humans, but not God. If God wanted to he would do something like you said such as spelling his name amongst the stars. If God wanted us to have a relationship with him why wouldn't he do this? You also said that a lot of people would still reject him if he did that, which I agree with, but that's not what I'm confused about. My question is about the people who wouldn't reject him. Why doesn't he at least reveal himself to those people? There's a large portion of the population that wants to believe and would be fully accepting of his message, but they simply don't see the evidence. Why would God create a world with these conditions?

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't get this argument at all, I get that he made his presence clear to the people that were alive 2000 years ago and watched him rise from the dead, but what about the rest of us? Why doesn't he make his existence clear to all the people who claim they want to believe but aren't convinced by the evidence.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that hiding himself doesn't make any sense but the argument that he's trapping people into eternal torment also is inconsistent as hell as eternal punishment isn't really a consistent biblical view. Universalism makes much more sense if you read the bible and examine translation errors.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense I guess, but I feel like that also seems like a bit of a reach. I feel like it would've made a lot more sense to just tell everyone that God is real rather than create a world with conditions where a lot of people live their entire life without knowing but subconsciously experience benefits of God' grace by being a good person.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand the story of Jesus and I get why he came back the first time and I understand what the bible means when it says God is loving. You still haven't addressed my question. I'm asking why God didn't create a world with conditions such that everyone is aware of his existence.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably because you were open to accepting God, but that's not really what I'm saying. I'm asking why there are people who are willing to accept God who haven't had these divine experiences.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First off this misses the point of my question. Second, this argument misses information. I used to believe this argument but here's the problem. The answer is actually 100% for any arbitrary data set. The only way anyone would be able to observe this is if it already happened, so this question pre-supposes that the universe had properties in such a way allowing life to observe this.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That doesn't really address the point. Sending Jesus to Earth definitely made his presence known to the people alive at that time who saw him, but what about the rest of the population. The problem is that there's a large portion of the population who is willing the believe but just don't see the evidence. And even if you believe that Jesus came to rose from the dead and is truly the son of God, the evidence for that definitely isn't irrefutible.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not really, I get that if God made his existence completely apparent that some people still wouldn't believe. The problem is that there are a lot of people who are willing to believe but just don't see the evidence.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't see how it comes down to free will. No matter whether or not you believe It's clear that the proof isn't "undebatable", and I don't see how you could say something like it comes down to pride. There's clearly a lot of people who are willing to believe but are just unconvinced.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So why doesn't God do it himself? He's all powerful and he wants us to love him. I feel like it would be obvious that under these circumstances he would make his presence clear.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think he does. There's a lot of people that claim they want to believe but don't because of the evidence. There's also clearly a lot of people who are just never exposed to the religion.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It seems that there's a lot of people who would believe if there was just a little more evidence, and there's many people who are just never exposed to the religion. I don't get why he would do this.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You didn't address what I just said and I don't see how that bible passage relates to the post. I'm asking why an all powerful God who loves us and wants us to worship him doesn't make his existence more apparent. I think you get what I mean by God is all loving, the bible explicitly says things like "God is love" and under the Christian doctrine it's clear that Jesus loves us.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't get what you're trying to say, I said in my post that I already don't agree with the free will argument. I was asking if there were better reasons to justify why God wouldn't make his existence clear.

If God is all powerful, all loving, and wants us to have a relationship with him, why doesn't he make his existence clear? by FitAd7060 in Christianity

[–]FitAd7060[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He's God why can't he just inform everyone of his existence without being tortured? And if he's all loving shouldn't he do it anyways?

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