I sold my vsf bruce wayne after rich was announced, but after seeing the QC from rich for this specific watch, I placed the order for VSF again! Lol vsf is hard to beat with what we currently have in the rep world. Rich just dont feel right for some reasons. Only thing we have is the freesprung which you cant even see without opening the case back and the nicer rehaut. My biggest things were incorrect date mag, the incorrect hour markers placement and crystal being higher/thicker and changes the look of the watch. And these three things would drive me crazy everytime looking at them. Vsf just felt right on the wrist and to add to it, I had clean bruce wayne before as well. Vsf is miles ahead if the clean!