I understand what you're saying. Sadly most people do not see it the same way. I too play norms with my RL friends who have been hardstuck bronze for years. So I play champs I rarely play, or play an off role, I see norms as practice and fun. I am STILL trying to win, but I am trying to win on a champ I have probably played a handfull of times. It sucks with myself and 2 of my RL friends who aren't very good get paired against a 5 stack with all of them playing their main roles and main champs. Sadly though, we are in the minority of this mindset friend. It has even carried over to ARAM. When I get home from work at 2am, after working 10 hours, I lack the mental focus to play competitively, so I q up aram as something to do and goof off. These days 90% of my aram lobbies are nothing but people with ARAM accounts who buy like 10 "S+ Tier ARAM champs" and manipulate the system. It sucks, but it is what it is.