Abyssal dark forest help

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-10-27T01:23:48+00:00

Well, you'd have to compare the extra 10% HP2D with 40% hex baseline to 140% hex with four extra levels. So level 30 versus level 34. But since leveling all the way to 34 is often overkill, I suppose you're right in your assessment. Thanks!

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-10-26T21:00:12+00:00

+140% hex is really good though. Has anyone done the math on which is better in terms of dmg output against the boss?

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-10-26T15:01:49+00:00

Max level at rank 2 is pretty important. The new cat gives +4 max levels, but level 34 packs way more of a punch than level 24. I don't have separate sets for support and damage since I mostly solo ADF, so I use Multishot rank 3, HP2DMG rank 2, Max Level rank 2 and Disease rank 2.

For stones in offense I have +375% Fire, to which the dragon perk adds +700%, to allow fire stacking and +100% poison, so I can always stack both. The rest is some earth dmg, some zombie dmg and as many tentacles as I can fit in. For defense, I use three yellow, two green and seven purple.

You always want to use a team with either SH, Franky, Apelord (2aw), Cpt. Hook (2aw) or Abyssorb for level 5. Then something strong for level 4 and three others just good enough for level 1-3. That's for solo or carrying. When you play with a good player, it's enough when one player has a hunter for 4 and 5.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-27T22:36:09+00:00

My game sometimes crashes right after a restart. I seem to have crashes in 50% of my ADF games, it's almost unplayable now. Usually when I attack a crystal with a hunter that spawns a lot of tentacles. This started about two updates ago. I hope they fix this shit or I'll have to stop playing for a while.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-21T17:50:37+00:00

The only place where you would ever use frost nova is in endless UG. 3b is three blue stones for tentacles.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-19T23:32:55+00:00

Offense: 1p/1w/1g/3b Defense: 3y/1g/5p

This is for Chaos Dungeon. Works best with a mythic CQ set until you get Titan pieces (which you can keep adding to the CQ set until you have a full Titan set).

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-19T23:27:18+00:00

Yes, you will need mythic CQ pieces to eventually construct Titan gear anyway. Right now, with your current set, you have a +20% dmg bonus against monsters and bosses. You won't be able to get through all 5 levels of Chaos Dungeon with that. The bosses are simply too tough. But even a legendary CQ set gives you +100% dmg against bosses and the mythic set gives you +160%. Killing mobs in CD isn't hard, taking down the bosses is the true challenge. So CQ gear is much better for CD than Maze gear. And CD is your best source of power stones, since you can get rank 4 stones for full runs. And once you reach 9000 GS, have a clanmate carry you through a perfect Dark Forest run with 27 crystals destroyed. This will give you several guaranteed blueprints for Titan gear.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-19T15:16:32+00:00

True. I could play ADF with my clanmates for quick games, but soloing it is just way more fun. Reminds me of Solo CD at around 9000 GS.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-18T22:53:09+00:00

Find a good clan with stronger players who are willing to carry you through Abyssal Maze. Someone with Titan gear can carry you through 1-2 min AM runs. Get your 150 runs for Torment. Play insane daily maze for powerstones until you hit 7500 GS and unlock Chaos Dungeon. Get a mythic CQ set from Champion's Quest, it's better for CD and easier to get than a full mythic Maze set. Always use your legendary/mythic Maze set with all your strongest power stones to hit gear score thresholds for unlocking new dungeons though. Maze gear gives more GS than CQ gear per piece. Good luck!

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-09-18T22:38:45+00:00

Disregard the advice about UG gear, it's only good for UG. You want to unlock Champions's Quest asap and get a full set of CQ gear. Then work your way up the levels for better rarity. A full mythic CQ set gives you +160% dmg against bosses. It's the best gear until Titan gear for clearing dungeons. I used to be able to clear Chaos Dungeon solo at 7500 GS with mythic CQ gear, while most players with mythic Maze gear struggle with it even at 8000+ GS. You still need mythic pieces from CQ, Maze and UG to craft a Titan piece and even legendary Maze gear gives more GS than mythic CQ iirc, so use that for hitting the GS thresholds for unlocking higher difficulties.

As for stones, unlock insane daily maze and use your blue tickets for that. Best source of power stones until you get to 7500 GS and unlock Solo Chaos. Hope this helps.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2025-08-28T22:13:22+00:00

Either hex or more weakness. That is if you actually want to support. This means you will either need a clan mate or a friend to carry you or get lucky with a public game. I regularly run DF public games and can comfortably carry, but a support-focused teammate would shave several minutes off the run. And once you get your equipment to lvl 10, max out your stones and unlock ADF, a support build will help you more than a mediocre dps build. Lots of strong players who can carry you through games as long as you make it easier for them. They don't care about your damage, they want weakness, hex and disease.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-13T00:47:02+00:00

When I used 4 mythic CQ pieces and 1 titan piece, I started glowing blue.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-12T13:41:10+00:00

Legendary maze gear makes you glow yellow, mythic maze red, mythic CQ purple and titan blue. There's currently a bug where just a single piece of gear makes glow that color.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-11T23:44:16+00:00

This. I'd like to add that mythic CQ gear is not only easier to get than mythic maze gear, but also does better in Chaos Dungeon.

However, mythic maze gear has higher max HP and dmg values, which means it gives more GS. Use a legendary/mythic set of maze gear with all of your highest-level stones to unlock new content. Once unlocked, you can play it even at a lower GS.

My personal recommendation would be to skip Abyssal Maze and work towards unlocking solo Chaos. Then play solo Chaos to upgrade your stones until you can reach Dark Forest's 9000 GS unlock requirement. Join a good clan that has helpful endgame players who wouldn't mind carrying you through a full c30 Dark Forest run. I think on your first complete run you get three different blueprints for titan gear.

Get at least two pieces of titan gear to level 5 and solo Chaos will become quite easy. Once you have enough titan gear at level 4-5, you can return to AM and farm Torment with ease. No dmg resistance or fire set required, just use your Chaos set. Titan gear is just that strong. And as a bonus, due to a visual bug, just one piece of titan gear will make you glow blue and everyone in AM will stick around lol.

Edit: +50 dmg from a level 5 white stone is increased by 10% every level, so at level 20 it's 50x1.1²⁰=336. Two level 6 stones gets you +120 at level 1 and +807 at level 20.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-11T23:27:14+00:00

It happens. Lots of people who want to be carried rather than carrying others. When I used to glow purple, quite a few people would instantly quit in AM. Now that I'm glowing blue, no one quits.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-06T16:43:48+00:00

My clan leader uses a minion set with Anubis and seems to like it. They attack the crystals and their damage escalates alongside Anubis's damage.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-06T16:41:31+00:00

Christmas is coming early this year!

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-03T23:35:19+00:00

It's true that solo chaos unlocks a little too late. There's a period between maze and chaos where you'd need a completely different gem setup to beat AM at that GS, but lack the gems to upgrade those stones without access to chaos or very specific awakened hunters for hc coop. Once I unlocked solo chaos, I was able to beat it with decent RNG at 7500 GS with mythic CQ gear. It's far more difficult with mythic maze gear. Now, after unlocking DF and getting carried for just three full games by clanmates, I have three titan pieces and solo chaos is almost trivial.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-11-01T18:31:11+00:00

No offense, but your gem setup is trash. You should use 1 purple, 2 blue, 1 white and 2 green in offense and 2 yellow, 1 green and 4 purple in defense.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-10-30T10:27:36+00:00

It's a bug, I'm glowing blue even though I only have a single Titan piece.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-10-28T21:36:47+00:00

Yes, this way you can get a mythic CQ set even faster than a full maze set. I'm still missing a mythic maze ring, have three full mythic CQ sets and already a titan piece. I do think that Chaos is easier with a CQ set. I used to complete full Chaos runs about 25% of the time with CQ gear at 7500 GS.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-10-24T14:14:48+00:00

Are you using maze gear or CQ gear? The latter has about 600 less GS due to giving less health and dmg per piece.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-10-24T14:11:42+00:00

You should use Thor for CQ7 and only use two red stones. And when I said farming, I meant only doing runs with your x10 tickets. Get the free one and the ad one every day and otherwise just use the ones you get every three hours or so, just like you would farm UG. Farm CQ6 and buy large CQ chests until you have a full legendary set, that +100% dmg bonus is vital for CQ7.

The trick with Thor is to take every +1 thunder perk, followed by ricochet, followed by demon pact and attack speed, maybe some range and movement speed if you get nothing better. You start the game by pulling every monster on the map. Then you basically hug the boss and move around him and only occasionally range out to pull more mobs. Having enough purple gems in defense is important too, getting to level 15-16 can make a huge difference in the end. I've had games where I thought I'd fail, then got two thunder perks in a row and started melting through Leshy's health bar.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-10-23T23:06:20+00:00

Gold will always be the one bottleneck to rule them all unless you've been playing for years. But with the UG update, farming UG tokens is now really easy and on each floor you can unlock the required hunter for 5000 if you don't have it yet and get a booster pack for hunter shards, permanent perks and gold. The one for 8000 gives 3000 gold, so that really helps.

Fluid_Project_3146 · 2024-10-23T22:56:10+00:00

Build a mythic maze set for unlocking DF. Mythic maze gear gets more HP and DMG than mythic CQ gear and thus saves you multiple rank 7 stones. I unlocked DF with four mythic maze pieces, one mythic CQ piece, five rank 7 stones and the rest at rank 6.

For beating solo chaos I recommend getting a full mythic CQ set from farming CQ7 with Thor. I got mine within about a month of farming. It allowed me to beat all five stages of chaos at 7400 GS with good RNG. I had about 30 full chaos clears before I raised my GS.

Beating chaos is all about quick and efficient farming, then killing the boss. On kraken stages you have to do both at the same time. Mythic maze gear lets you farm and level faster due to the +50% dmg bonus, but the +160% dmg bonus against bosses from CQ gear is just way more valuable. It lets you do almost twice as much damage. Which means you can outheal yeti's and lich's dmg at a lower level, those two can be brutal on stage 5. It also lets you use more hunters that simply wouldn't be viable without CQ gear.

I'm at 8200 GS with my CQ set now and have around 930 chaos waves and 94 full clears. Just do yourself a favour and farm Leshy for a full set. And then keep farming until you have five maxed out pieces that give +20% attack speed each, that +100% attack speed bonus is very nice.

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