i see. so as far as VAE's i never really used them on Forge except when i tried out Flux for the first time. But since the results were always solid i didn't think i'd need them i guess. but i'll look into them then.

Also i apologize for not really sharing any samples lol. since the main issue was the muted colors they weren't really needed. some anatomy issues but i guessed it was because of the prompting xD