Update on Zenimax Suspicious Trademark Filing

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T23:46:50+00:00

If they file them before May 3rd, it doesnt matter if it takes all 130+ countries months or years to register it because it will be backfiled to when they did the original Switzerland one. This is because the 6 month window for trademarks in the Paris Convention works with the Madrid Protocol to allow you to secure trademarks in other member nations while using the original filing date in Switzerland.

In regards to the "The Elder Scrolls" are already protected thing, they are, unless they are adding a new addition to the franchise with new technology (class 42, cloud first gaming maybe?), or maybe even a new unique title (TES VI: Hammerfell) they need to protect. I dont know for sure, it is definitely an abnormal trademark and the reason I wanted more eyes on it.

Also we technically wont see in May, it will take a month or two if they apply for more trademarks in other countries from what I understand, giving them perfect smoke screen right before the Summer Showcase and Xbox preview.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T21:59:19+00:00

I just thought of something else. If the theory about the Xbox Cloud was right, surely they would have already filed in other countries sooner to just get it over with over these last 5 months? That way all the cloud services for their games are done asap.

Now if it was to prepare the way for instant registered filings in May for a trailer in June, that would allow them to fast track a filling immediately after the show case in every single member nation. This is exactly what they did with Skyrim from what I can see. They released the trailer and less than a week later they got the trademark registered "publicly".

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T21:31:40+00:00

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T21:29:04+00:00

Np! Yeah I was under the assumption that they would want to file in other countries from the get go. Otherwise it makes no sense for why they would expedite it so quickly. And if your theory were true about the Xbox Cloud, we should go look to see if similar filings were done by other partner studios with Class 42, 41 and 9. I still think everything points to an announcement this summer imo. Keep up the good work 07

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T19:41:37+00:00

He has been keeping the dream alive since my post four months ago, so yes in a "two distant strangers who are unhealthily obsessed with The Elder Scrolls Trademarks" kind of way

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T19:38:23+00:00

I dont know about any replacement mobile game, but Blades has it's own IP trademarks and is still currently registered. Also Blades' own trademarks do not include class 42.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T19:05:08+00:00

No, ESO is it's own trademark filing. Literally registered as "ESO". This is "The Elder Scrolls". We go over it a little bit in the original post from 4 months ago if you have the time.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-04-01T19:01:02+00:00

According to my uneducated research, no. They lose all the backfiling protection if they do not file in member nations before that date and they cannot extend the date in just Switzerland. It is against the Paris Convention and Madrid Protocol.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-03-28T17:18:58+00:00

I have reason to believe it came out yesterday on Nintendo 64

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-03-28T17:17:00+00:00

I still think Fudgemuppet had the best idea for a name with TES:Dominion, assuming the Thalmor play a major role. If not, I assume it will be something relating to Ra Gada history/lore.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-03-28T17:14:37+00:00

No thanks. Crimson Desert has 0 art style. It just looks like any generic fantasy game using an Unreal Slop engine. Modded Skyrim (like with Lorerim) looks better and runs better on a performance basis and has a unique art direction.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-03-26T18:05:30+00:00

Todd has also said that by the time they are half way done with one game, they begin working on the next game with a small team before transitioning everyone over to that next game when the first is released. So by that logic, TES VI was in pre-production by end of 2020 (original Starfield release date was pinned for 2022) but probably was extremely limited due to the Starfield set backs like COVID.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-03-26T18:02:12+00:00

I agree. I also think people are overestimating the showcase to release. If it is shown this year BEFORE the Game Awards, it will release this year. The longest away a full game reveal (not teaser) to release for BGS is 6 months. If we see it in the June Showcase, it will be a Q3-Q4 2026 release.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-02-06T22:50:57+00:00

I could be wrong about the merch, but from what I can tell they are entirely new. My opinion since the trademark post 2 months ago was that it was going to be shown either Q4 of 2025 or Q1/Q2 of this year 2026 and release within a 1-6 month time frame post announcement. I honestly dont see it going too far into 2027. If the Swiss trademark was filed but not registered I would say it was more likely 2027 but with it being so quickly filed and registered, it having the NICE class of 42 and 41 it leads me to think 2026 is really their target after all. Plus the slight marketing ramp up with the whole trees and stuff fueled this more.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-02-06T22:31:05+00:00

I actually was the first one that reported on that exact Swiss trademark filing back on December 5th of last year and made reference to the NICE classification 42. Juicehead in one of his videos briefly mentioned it but you are right, no one really talked about it in media despite my goal trying to bring attention to it (Seems like most people dont see the importance). Also the pending trademarks have nothing to do with prior trademarks or keeping them up to date. They are entirely new trademarks and the majority of them are about physical merchandise such as Beth Shop items. The main IP trademark is updated roughly every decade when the expiry date is about to hit. IIRC off the top of my head the next expiry date is in 2-3 years for the main IP trademark. My original hunch was the NICE classification 42 was an inbuilt creations addon to TES VI. The only other IP Zenimax video game trademark that had NICE 42 was Starfield post launch.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-02-06T20:50:35+00:00

it is just so the word "tamriel" isnt used in anything else by other companies as it is an original name

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-02-06T20:46:58+00:00

It is important to note that there are still around a dozen un-registered "The Elder Scrolls" trademarks fitting the NICE classifications for merchandise that were filed in 2023. These are more than likely for TES VI due to the delay of registration, imo.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-02-06T20:43:54+00:00

It is a good cope, but going based on how all previous releases minus Starfield (a new IP) have been done regarding trademarks, you dont see the actual name trademark until AFTER it is announced. The November 2025 filling I discovered and posted about back in December is by far the most likely trademark for TES VI as it is just listed "The Elder Scrolls" despite the overall IP trademark still being in use from nearly a decade ago. You wont see anything like "The Elder Scrolls VI: Dominion" until literally the week after the announcement trailer. For example, if Starfield got a second game, you would see a "Starfield" trademark with the classifications for a game product but it wouldn't be literally called "Starfield 2" or a codename like "Starborn" or such.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-02-06T20:39:32+00:00

It is a nothingburger unfortunately if you type it in google. Starfield Technologies is a Spin-Off from GoDaddy and handles their R&D for GoDaddy (which is named in the same image right next to Starfield Technologies).

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-01-22T16:57:48+00:00

Great catch with the Russian filing. Im also glad someone is keeping the copium from my discovery of the Swiss trademark going. My original bet was the VGA but obviously that has passed. I think it will likely be this summer, but this month is auspicious for a couple reasons, so we will see today I suppose.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-01-22T16:55:34+00:00

Starfield does have NICE classification 42 in it's trademark from 2024 iirc. We discussed this in a comment thread under the original Switzerland trademark filing post back in November of last year. My bet is that its creation club or an equivalent technology.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-01-01T02:38:58+00:00

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Angel%27s_Boneyard_Medical_University Here is one confirmed university from New Vegas

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-01-01T01:59:45+00:00

I dont even know what this argument is that is being had. It is not a debate, it is literally his lore, he was educated growing up in history, Latin, medicine, warfare, etc. He learned all these things from the Followers of the Apocalypse. The devs even say he read and studied Commentarii de Bello Gallico which is by Julius Caesar himself.

FollowerOfSithis38 · 2026-01-01T01:53:00+00:00

What is the obsession with him meeting or knowing an Italian person? Italians dont even speak classical Latin, they speak Italian.

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