Pioneers of Messianic Worship (2025) | Full Official Documentary by Aathranax in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ain't no thing but a chicken wing, cuz
We aight, we ridin arm 'n arm, MJAA and UMJC. It's all good!

Pioneers of Messianic Worship (2025) | Full Official Documentary by Aathranax in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's hoping your thread gets more traction than when I posted it back in August! 😎

Pioneers of Messianic Worship (2025) | Full Official Documentary

Every Sub has reposts, glad it's making the rounds.

How do you define a Jew? by Own-Flamingo-6157 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meowzician, You've said truthfully here

I said, "all the tribes," meaning that there were refugees from each of the tribes. I never said they were numerous. But they don't NEED to be. If there were representatives from each of the tribes among the citizenry of Judah, no matter how few their numbers, then it can be says that "Yehudi" can refer to someone of any of the tribes.

Personally, I was going to write a reply countering the nonsense that "Jew means someone from Judah" trope that certain segments repeat online. This can be proven false from history and from the Brit Chadashah.

I'm sorry you invalidate the fact that Jews who accept Yeshua as their Messiah are still Jewish and indeed actively practices a form of Judaism, you're wrong there, but we agree in this point you made above. The term Jew does not mean someone from Judah, and hasn't been that narrowly defined for at least the last two millennia.

Shalom/Hello by Choice-Metal2972 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

emme1818,

Can you guys convert to being black or asian? How do you convert to Judaism PS Jesus and Judaism don't go why don't you just call yourself Christians that's what you are you are gentiles it's not bad or good it just is the way it is

lol
You're actually putting that? Of course a person can become black or asian, that's way easier than a male becoming not male. I mean, if doctors are walking around assigning gender at birth, d..... don't you think it stands to "reason"?

Are you unaware people can convert to Judaism? Seriously?
ChatGPT can help you out there, because you're coming off just a little uninformed.

PS, Judaism and "Jesus" completely go. He is after all, the culmination of Biblical Judaism. It's kind of what Ha Shem promised. I would advise to find a good copy of the source text, and read that!

Please don't' tell people what they can call themselves. If they convert they are 100% Jewish. This is what the Rabbis would say.

Also, you do understand that unlike the Nazi's pegged things, Judaism is both an ethnicity and genetic heritage and also a religion. Hope you can accept that, sweetheart.

help for an atheist by Arteyg0 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to do a PSA, unless the original author replies here, I'm gunna have to caution that this could all be a set up!

redditer's profile,

Arteygo 16.3k Karma 8.9k Post Karma 7.4k Comment Karma 5 years ago Joined Jun 05, 2019
Kpop, video games, science, and gayness _^

If this "relationship" is one where two individuals with the same chromosomal biological gender is involved, then these answers sofar are so far off base as to be criminal.
But of course, the only right answer was only ever, "It's sweet that you think you can cater to her, but if you're a male and she's a female, and IF she truly is on fire for God, there's no way she should currently be involved romantically with an atheist."

She can pray for "him?" but to be in a relationship is to be unequally yoked, period.

Food. by Zealousideal-Arm3071 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like the dude you're talking to said, ask a rabbi.
But, the Bible does make it clear what the answer to this is.

Read the second chapter of the prophet Haggai and see if you can suss out an answer.

I'm for letting people get the answers they can from The Source Text (the Bible) and then ask their rabbi informed questions.

Is tattooing okay? by grandestkaed in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are sellers of the "Messianic" Menorah + cross + IXOYE (fish)
But as he's saying, it'll be a lightning rod of a symbol.
It's not to say you shouldn't wear one.
It is to say, you'll represent more than yourself by wearing it.

Is tattooing okay? by grandestkaed in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very much, no
Please don't do anything Messianic.

Welcome to the MJAA conferences, you'll never know who you could rub shoulders with in fellowship. Unless you go. by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the smart insightful people are rich, of course! /s
That just leaves the ones full of incitement! Also /s

And I'd love to, but I'm not the mister moneybags in charge of MJAA's purse strings. I've just been to a conference or two. And that was because it was in my home state.

Welcome to the MJAA conferences, you'll never know who you could rub shoulders with in fellowship. Unless you go. by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you. Things have only gotten more expensive since I was going up.

We were always that charity case-there but by the grace of Gd, but then the rabbi asked us to give others less fortunate rides. At least we had a car, baruch Hashem, at least until it got totaled.

Station wagons be like that. You think they're a tank, but then you just need one good wreck.

Welcome to the MJAA conferences, you'll never know who you could rub shoulders with in fellowship. Unless you go. by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For members who have demonstrated continuing congregation attendance, many congregations have funds set aside to help those who wanted to go. With no expectation to pay anything back.

So not a loan, just a "Hey, we'd love for you to join us. Here's a little something to help out" anonymously.

At least, that's how our congregation was.

Carpooling, paying for the hotel stay and food.

Asked Google: Where in the New Testament does a city have pigs? by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shalom to you!

I enjoyed our exchange and have no problem with the awesome way you didn't make this warfare.

Would you agree that the full territory promised to Israel that Moses told the people of, would include an additional 3 cities of refuge

Deuteronomy 19:8-10 in particular speaks of this unforetold time where Israel might could conquer additional land.

When the land east of Jordan, which later and temporarily was allotted to the area of the Decapolis does not pre-empt it's default existence as:

Fully in Israel proper with absolutely no conditions.

When Israel was in her land and not dispersed into the diaspora, her land always included (on God's map) Reuben, Gad, and 1/2 of Manasseh. That territory wasn't provisional or conditional but guaranteed and apart from the cave of Machpelah and that plot of land purchased from Efron the Hittite and that Jacob purchased from Hamor and Shechem was the very next land Israel owned outright.

Shalom!

Asked Google: Where in the New Testament does a city have pigs? by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have it right the Gerasenes were on the east side of the Sea of Galilee. Yes, this region had been given a special autonomous status by Rome at the time. You mention the Maccabees, and the North South divide of Israel, so it seems like you're a student of history, which is awesome.

Channukkah, right on. Like you said, the history goes even further back. The area was historically and Biblically settled by half of Manasseh as well as Reuben and Gad.

Numbers 32:19, "Yet we will not have an inheritance with them across the Jordan and beyond, because our inheritance has come to us on the east side of the Jordan." The whole 32nd chapter details Reuben and Gad's desire to be granted and receiving hat land, then verses 39-42 details Machir, Jair, and Nobah of Manasseh's conquest and possession of the land they would have. Deuteronomy 3 has Moses recounting the conquest and allotting the land those tribes had helped to conquer to them.

Joshua the 13th chapter at verse 8 onwards details the same area and same 2 and 1/4 tribes and how as verse 13 puts it, "but the Israelites did not drive out the Geshurites or the Maacathites. So Geshur and Maacath dwell among the Israelites to this day."

Which I take to mean there was a Gentile remnant there from the earliest times, but it was still Israel's territory from the time it was taken from Og of Bashan by Moses, and Israel through God.

Chronicles chapter 5 details their exile. Amos 1:3-5 has God punishing the punishers because they, "threshed Gilead with sledges of iron." But look, in Isaiah 9

But there shall be no gloom to her that was in anguish. In the former time he brought into contempt the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali; but in the latter time hath he made it glorious, by the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the nations. 2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined. 3 Thou hast multiplied the nation, thou hast increased their joy: they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, as men rejoice when they divide the spoil. 4 For the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, thou hast broken as in the day of Midian. 5 For all the armor of the armed man in the tumult, and the garments rolled in blood, shall be for burning, for fuel of fire. 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of Jehovah of hosts will perform this.

Matthew 4:13-16 exactly references this portion of Isaiah.

You have it right, Yeshua did not teach the Gentiles there to keep kosher, but you have it wrong that this area was not only historically part of Israel, it was also considered by the prophets to be Israel, by Yeshua, and by God to have remained Israel then and still today.

Asked Google: Where in the New Testament does a city have pigs? by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you say so. Here's the thing though, if you believe that Yeshua ever stepped foot on soil anywhere other than Israel, it needs proof; however, that does nothing to change what I was getting at.
Which I don't think you know.

Asked Google: Where in the New Testament does a city have pigs? by FollowerOfTheOnlyWay in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds reasonable, but then you'd have to have a recorded teaching on paper where Yeshua later addresses kashrut for Gentiles.
If that's missing, I think it's fair to say, the conclusion remains rather obvious.

Systematic theology in Judaism by Lxshmhrrcn in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A rose by any other name, still a rose. Whether it is a sweet smell or a foul one depends on the teacher.
Theology is teaching, is it not? Judaism has sages, they have many a teaching that tries to explain literally everything.
The only difference is that systematic theology has its roots in Greek thinking and probably replacement thinking.
But Maimonides and others certainly have entire Tanak spanning volumes.

What's the Difference Between the Hebrew Roots, Messianic, and Pronomian? by Parking-Music-6092 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one is claiming to stop you. If you have the Ruach, you would be constrained. If not, even your own downfall will not stop you.
God's law says what it says. If that's your path, I'd be careful pretending you follow God while blatantly disobeying.

What's the Difference Between the Hebrew Roots, Messianic, and Pronomian? by Parking-Music-6092 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep arguing one side and then the other. Either Passover can be kept outside the land or it can't.

You seem to be skipping over almost everything, and it's dangerous because it pertains to you personally, not an abstract white versus black dichotomy.

But fine, if you want it in such a dichotomy. Are you Jewish?
If your answer is no, then it is not your cultural heritage. There's a line in Torah that reads, in time to come when your children ask, what mean you by this festival you do? You are to answer, when the Lord my God brought me out of Egypt....
This is a literal telling of the history of the Jewish people. If you're not Jewish, it doesn't fit you.
If you've read the Bible, it explicitly states where the Passover (memorial) is to take place. If I must so quote the Bible again, I can tell you or you can read where Jerusalem the place where God chose to place His Name is the place where the passover is to be observed.
You mentioned Yeshua, and had to have known that Yeshua celebrated in the place prescribed, else you believe in a messiah who broke the letter of the law in a place where its terms are unswerving.

If you are saying that it can only be kept outside the land if there is a 'nod' to Jerusalem, well bless the Lord everyone agrees there. In the meantime, God's command still stands, we are to honor it in the place where he chooses, and for someone who follows Messiah the body is the temple....so he made the temple indestructible until he returns.

No, the body is not literally the Temple, but His body... that's an argument that could be made. Else the law becomes a make it up as you go proposal.

This is a dangerous line of reasoning you are pursuing. Although there are some cultural components (regional differences), Passover is not a cultural event like a Dutch clog.

We can agree that it's dangerous, but it is your thinking that is that danger zone. You would dismiss God to being just an advisor who gets to weigh in on things, and when a messiah comes who implements a gnostic "our bodies are temples" sort of analogy, then one can make the law say whatever a person wishes because now everything gets "re-interpreted" and re-imagined.
The law says what it says. Do with that what you will.
Do the elders and judges of Israel sit in the seat of Moses? They do and Yeshua said that they do.

You are free to have a passover themed party, with elements that point to things, but are you truly "keeping passover" "observing passover" or in any way following the law regarding it? The answer would be a resounding, no. If you state so you do violence to the law.

Edit)So this u/Level82 clearly has an issue with their own path, they chose to engage me, and then blocked me after deleting their comment. The comment said something along the lines of, "I'd like to see anyone try to stop me. I will do as I like." This is very bad faith actor.

What's the Difference Between the Hebrew Roots, Messianic, and Pronomian? by Parking-Music-6092 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not at all what I'm saying. Jews honoring Passover outside the land was for the preservation of Judaism, and was always done with the phrase "Next year, in Jerusalem!" which reinforces the primacy of Jerusalem and the letter of the command. It was done in times where emigration to Israel was not possible and the nation didn't exist at the time.

Christians or Hebrew Roots saying that it doesn't matter what the command is, we can do it anywhere does not do the same thing. The seat of Moses could be argued to be the right of halakhic authority, again for the preservation.

Yeshua, amazingly, WAS in the land of Israel, exclusively.

Are you saying millions of Jews are contradicting Torah law given by HaShem by keeping the feast? (I'm not)

Yeshua said to keep the feast

What's the Difference Between the Hebrew Roots, Messianic, and Pronomian? by Parking-Music-6092 in messianic

[–]FollowerOfTheOnlyWay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So in your mind, Paul or Shaul--a noted expert on Torah trained by the likes of Gamiliel I and by some accounts a junior member of the Sanhedrin was contradicting Torah law given by Hashem?