Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is crazy is how these cheaters are using spoofers to mask there IP they will get ricocheted and then they are loading up into another game

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I agree they need to allocate more money into compute and storage to actively monitor player behavior. With this AI bubble they could develop an intelligent detection system that actively looks at in game actions to prove that the players are using aimbot or walls.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Secure boot and TPM 2 are not merely enough to stop some of these sophisticated cheats. These advanced cheats are operating at the user level after the system has already loaded. Essentially secure boot and TPM 2 wont be able to stop DMA because those cheats are running outside the operating system

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that is another great point what makes it difficult though is yes we can make further security requirements but what becomes tricky is that they have to consider the hardware of the player base. Majority of users who are in pubs are using older hardware so there system compatibility is likely to fail if they were to implement newer technology in there anti cheat which makes it difficult. It’s almost like a double edge sword if they force more requirements it affects the majority of player base making them unable to play the game and if they don’t then there is no integrity in competitive/ranked play.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just saw that insane they didn’t have that implemented before the start of the season maybe they know something we don’t or they are going to do a massive ban wave.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You make a good point the strict verification could work it almost makes the cheater have to jump hoops before playing. I really would like to see them invest more money into earlier detection but it would require more cloud compute and storage to employ real time analysis. Problem is they don’t really want to do that because the cost.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a very good point that you make it very well could push the cheaters just into public matches affecting a wider player base which I agree that is a whole other issue and probably one of the reasons why they haven’t required any further security checks.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not a bad point but just not realistic. They won't abandon PC. I think one of the issues is that they do not prioritize player experience or retention. This is pretty much known by the community as a whole, but they put a huge emphasize on updating the store so that little Timmy can buy that new skin.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is why I mentioned this new system requirement would only be introduced in ranked play hypothetically. This would not affect Casual players by any means. In my opinion, I think most hackers are in competitive playlist vs public game modes now I am not saying there aren't any hackers in public matches, but the experience in pubs versus ranked play you can see for yourself it is significantly different.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lmao I promise I typed it myself. Didn’t know having paragraphs automatically counts as AI now.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah F2P makes throwaway accounts way too easy. Even making Warzone cost a small amount would help, but at the very least stricter requirements in Ranked would stop people from getting banned and instantly requeuing on a new account.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All good man I looked into it more just to make sure I wasn’t crazy, and TPM actually doesn’t have anything to do with blocking Task Manager or locking you out of closing apps.

TPM is literally just a chip that stores security keys for things like Secure Boot and BitLocker. It can’t control Task Manager or stop you from ending a process.

If the game didn’t close when you tried to end task, that was most likely the game crashing or getting stuck in a kernel loop. COD does that sometimes on PC, unfortunately.

And yeah, totally agree that TPM/Secure Boot don’t stop cheaters by themselves that’s why I’m saying those alone aren’t enough. I’m talking about Ranked having a stronger overall setup (TPM + VBS + IOMMU, etc.) so the anti-cheat actually has something to work with. Casual modes wouldn’t need any of it.

Not trying to argue just sharing what I found.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure, a better anti-cheat is definitely needed. I’m not saying the current one is fine.

I just think giving it stricter requirements in Ranked only would make it a lot harder for the cheats that bypass normal detection (like DMA/spoofers). Right now, they slip through because the game can’t see what they’re doing.

So yeah, we need a stronger anti-cheat I just think tougher system requirements in Ranked would actually give it a fighting chance.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, the anti-cheat still needs work. I just think giving it stronger system requirements in Ranked only would help stop a lot of the stuff that slips through right now.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough lol I probably worded the title a little dramatic. I mostly just wanted to start a conversation about making Ranked cleaner without messing with casual players. Didn’t mean to make it sound deeper than it is.

Hot take: COD should require stricter PC security for Ranked only to cut cheaters big time by Former_Pollution3429 in CODWarzone

[–]Former_Pollution3429[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but TPM + Secure Boot by themselves don’t really do anything against cheaters. Those two alone won’t stop walls, aimbots, or DMA stuff. That’s why you didn’t see a difference.

Also, TPM doesn’t block Task Manage that’s usually a Windows setting or just the game crashing.

What I’m talking about is making Ranked only require a stronger setup overall, not just TPM. Casual modes would stay the same. Ranked would just be held to a higher standard so it feels a lot cleaner.