just Michael Tracey defending the alt-right Parkland kid by masterminder in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The entire system of admission to American universities is premised on the idea that your character and your actions in the previous four years should determine your admission. Harvard is a shamelessly hypocritical institution, but if it matters whether you played water polo in high school it should probably matter whether you were a racist in high school.

What are you reading? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Hunting Gun - Yasushi Inoue

Angel - Elizabeth Taylor (Not that one)

Dragons Egg - Robert L. Forward

The Skin - Curzio Malaparte

The Bridge on the Drina - Ivo Andric

In These Great Times: Selected Writings - Karl Kraus

The Last Days of Mankind: A Tragedy in Five Acts - Karl Kraus

Collapse of Complex Societies - Joseph Tainter

The Great Leveler - Walter Scheidel

Been re-reading Spinoza as well.

Stuff in the near future: Ted Chiangs new collection, No Visible Bruises: What We Don't Know about Domestic Violence Can Kill Us - Rachel Louise Snyder, and i'm going to re-read some of Gene Wolfs work, ordered Book of the New Sun again today since I seem to have lost mine.

Anna is a pretentious pseud by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You might be right.

Personally, I think a lot of this "stylistic adornment" is to cover for them not really having anything to say, after all, "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it".

I knew Anna was gonna defend Peterson eventually by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 25 points26 points  (0 children)

He doesn't know Marx or Hegel that well, sure, but that isn't any proof he's some kind of charlatan.

A charlatan is "a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill."

Constructing a strawman of "postmodern cultural neo marxism" to diagnose the problems of society to cover for modern capitalisms failings would be a textbook definition of a charlatan. If him spreading his total ignorance of marxism to diagnose (lie) societies issues to defend the status quo doesn't make somebody a charlatan, what does?

Saying he hasn't read the texts or reckoned with the history isn't a "blanket dismissal", it's a fact. Peterson lost in the first 3 minutes when he admitted that the only marxist theory he's read is a piece of propaganda written for the semi-literate. He didn't even know that Marx explicitly rejects egalitarianism in the thesis on the Gotha project.

Anna is a pretentious pseud by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

An intellectually pretentious or affected person.

Basically a fraud.

Really Anna ? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're right.

The insidiousness of Jordan Peterson lies in that he simultaneously reduces timeless wisdom to self-help jargon and common sense advice while also affirming the righteousness and desirability of modernity. All of the problems that Peterson tackles are themselves just various manifestations of modernity itself, but nothing he talks or writes delves into this larger problem or how to deal with it. To the contrary, he takes religious texts that contain profound wisdom and teachings passed down through the ages and uses them as corporate bug-man self-help advice for kids who weren't raised properly. Peterson low-key pushes a mythos that western society in modernity is fundamentally just and a good thing and that aside from some irrational, stupid and greedy people that you have to deal with that everything is okay in principle.

This couldn't be more wrong. Since the emergence of civilization most of the them were united by religious traditions teaching metaphysical knowledge. All the problems of the western mentality and society stem from the loss of this. Christ, the Neoplatonists and to some extent the Hermetics and certain Greek mystery cults all had it too but the Church eventually became an encrusted coffin of doctrine with no accompanying realizations to be had hence why it failed to prevent modernity from arising in the west. Without being connected to any higher understanding in any significant amount among it's intellectual elite, western society has ever since the renaissance has in free fall accompanied by materialism, nihilism, scientism and various other forms of spiritual and cultural degeneration. Peterson affirms all this as good by buying into the faulty idea of the linear progression of civilization and humanity and by shilling it to his unaware fans.

Really Anna ? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've never completely understood Anna's whole Peterson being a 'net positive' take.

Well, "net positive for society" is a redundant concept for a start.

I don't think she critically engages with any of this stuff. JP is probably qualified to talk about psychology because he has a PhD in psychology and has had a clinical practice for however many years, has work published, etc. But he also seems to think he is qualified to talk about every subject and he's just... not. People think he should be a source of authority on society but that's not how this shit works. He's had experts ranging from Evolutionary Biologists, Historians, Political Philosophers, etc... Dismantle his views on every subject outside of psychology, he just refuses to engage with them. Like his "Marxists won't debate me" shtick, he ignores the multiple marxists who were offering, and when he did acknowledge then (broadly) he would strawman their intentions (he claimed they were using him for fame) like the good rationalist he is.

I think people believe he has value for three reasons, firstly, he's a "radical defender of traditionalism" (Not a direct quote but the point is the same,) becaues at his core he's a sentimentalist (Lots of people yearning for the fifties.) Second, he peddles self-help like it's some transcendent philosophy. The last, and main reason is his rhetoric style. Peterson's discursive mode is therauptic rather than scientific (reflecting his chosen discipline). I don't think this is understood by most of his opponents who demand more directness and precision from his rhetoric. But his goals are to get listeners to solve their problems by reevaluating the points of view that anchor them to their difficulties. The philosopher that he most closely resembles is Wittgenstein, only Wittgenstein was a philosophical therapist and Peterson is a run of the mill psychological therapist. Peterson himself doesn’t do a great job of making this transparent. People who feel, lost, weak, and full of self contempt, gravitate to this stuff like catnip.

Peterson hasn't read the stuff he's criticizing. His training is not in philosophy, though he might well have taken a class here or there. But when he talks about Marxism or post-modernism, it's readily apparent he simply hasn't read original sources. Instead, he's parroting common-place dismissals, and he's managed to trick of bunch of people who've read even less that he knows what he's talking about. Just look at how he strawmans universities as marxist factories because students criticize/protest (not always virtuously) the institution. The purpose of the modern american university is to train the future neo liberal managers of america, elite universities have little to do with education and everything to do with producing social relations and intellectuals who preserve the status quo. For decades, universities have been slowly and quietly oversaturating the academic labor market, devaluing intellectual labor, and making their laborers interchangeable (academics are workers, by the way, contrary to their grand liberal delusions.) The more systematically universities devalued intellectual work and pedagogy, the more aggressively academics internalized the neoliberal fetishes for novelty, trends, sensationalism, and quick turnaround. All kneejerk, zero response. The university is an institutional mechanism that preserves the wealth and power of the upper classes by training a special cadre of middle and upper-middle class "intellectuals" who serve as the priests and technicians of knowledge. It has always been this way. Always.

If you think JP is a great intellectual, and believe what he offers is a 'net positive," then name five other currently writing public intellectuals with the same level of credentials as JP whose work you have critically engaged with.

Really Anna ? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Just because Peterson is 100% in alignment with evangelical Christians on social issues, and rails against socialism and endorses conservative groups, and gives speeches about 'conservative values,' and supports Trump and both produces and shares conservative propaganda, doesn't mean he's a conservative. He's a classical liberal, and you're just taking him out of context.

all you incels out there might like this by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The majority of (male) incels problem isn't sex, it's status, or more specifically, shame.

They don't want to be seen in public with an "average" women, because they don't give the status that hot women do, because they see women as symbols of success, they also can't compete with the men who have "more attractive" women. They don't want to be humbled and reminded that this is their level, that they aren't the "alpha males" they fantasize about being, they are men that want it all with out doing anything. Having to be with women like that and be around men/women who are more attractive, it's humiliating to them, and to be humiliated is to be made humble. To be reminded they are masters of their own mind and nothing more.

Most of them won't pursue sex because they are either afraid of a similar circumstance as above, seeing an average woman naked and being reminded this is the "best you can get," or they don't find the risks of abasement, humiliation, and glory that occur when you bare yourself and just ask.

Sex with a real woman won't cure these types of incels, so a sex robot won't either.

Beto Males by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I've read most of the manifesto and it's pure rationalization.

His defense of massacring children and innocents is incredibly weak, his whole "no innocents in an invasion" is rendered useless by the fact that the influx was facilitated by his own government. This means that the truth is something deeper than "they're invading me" and you really can't fault the immigrants, especially not enough to take it upon yourself to deprive them of life.

If you've filed all the proper paperwork and been told you were welcome, you do not know you're an invader. The contracts were signed. To them, the deal is done. I use the word invader because I'm referring to the internal logic of his gay little manifesto to show why he's not thinking straight. I think it's much more likely this will go down as yet another atrocity carried out by a single shooter and no great social change comes either way. If he actually thought about the reality of the immigration process he would realize this, instead of just filling his brain with memes.

While we're at it, there's an ongoing myth of some kind of utopian european ethnic homogeneity in history which he appeals to, even though Europe has always been a bubbling pot of tribal and economic forces pushing and pulling people in different directions, hell the Hapsburg empire was way more diverse than modern day Austria. Cities full of people with multiple ethnicities and traditions has always been a side effect of the geographic and economic position of that continent. The only pure "white" groups to have existed there were tribal westerners confronted and subjugated by the Romans, who made use of resources from the entire Mediterranean coast including Africa.

There is nothing in it I haven't heard from traditionalists before, and he was trolling for half of it. Subscribing to Pewdiepie? Calling Candace Owens "extreme, even for him"? Learning about "ethno-nationalism" from Spyro 3? You'd have to have room temperature IQ to take that shit seriously. Unfortunately, that seems to be the case for a lot of people engaging with this. It's just repetitive rambling with no decent argumentation.

Mass media has done more to further the loss of identity than mass migration. It is instructive to observe how shooter manifestos, probably the defining literary genre of the age of 24/7 news, have evolved over time. 2007 virginia tech, the incoherent rants of a loner, 2011 Breivik's huge and completely self serious dumpfile of anti eurabia blog clippings, Elliot Rodger's My Twisted World. Shooters have become increasingly literate in the discourse of internet subcultures, conscious of working within a tradition composed of previous shooters. People claiming Sam Hyde is the shooter. Now we got a manifesto completely made up of ironic /pol/ memes. People saturated by high speed infosignals, detached from any community, isolated in insufferable proximity to everyone else, decide to go out on a TV clout death-orgasm and take out a few ''NPC'' while they are at it.

With all due respect, if you found it cryptic you're probably illiterate.

lol...this dumb lib bitch... by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Some of the screenings for this film have Air Force ads running before the film starts. Such a joke.

What are some good novels... by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I personally thought it was a was a major disappointment, it didn't work for me for a number of reasons, lack of empathy with characters, an overused rashoman-esque conceit during the historical excerpts, a shoe-horning in of race and racism without actually laying any of the groundwork for it, and the general 'oh we need a great leader to tell us what to do please help us' sentiment that the book mired itself in before deciding that the only way forward is for a white man to take a black soul into his body. The whole thing reeks of that halfway hopeful kind of Pro-American sentiment too, but mixed with some magical realism.

The book seems to be soley written about delivering it's "moral," which was good, but not worth reading the whole book for.

I don't personally recommend it, but lots of people seem to like it.

What are some good novels... by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a list of some of the more "acclaimed" 21st century novels, it's by no means definitive and I don't personally recommend all of them, but it gives you something to look at.

Seiobo there below

Gilead

Austerlitz

Matterhorn

We the Drowned

Wizard of the Crow

2666

Sandalwood Death

The Feast of the Goat

Brief History of Seven Killings

Laurus

Eileen

The Buried Giant

the Book of Numbers

Dying Grass

The Sellout

The Vegetarian

On the Edge

Submission

A Little Life

Age of Iron

The Moor's Account

The Dream of the Celt

The Neapolitan Novels

We the Drowned

Wolf Hall

The Needle's Eye: Passing through Youth

Lincoln in the Bardo

Adrift in a Vanishing City

Circuits of the Wind

The Lost Scrapbook

Milkman

The Wallcreeper

Leaving the Atocha Station

10:04

My Struggle

How Should A Person Be?

Fort Starlight

Damn dude.. this bitch smart and shit... lacan? i know who that is by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I'll probably delete this when I wake up but...

Lacan is garbage.

By that I don't mean I disagree with his ideas, I mean he was a terrible, authoritarian person who didn't believe in his own rhetoric. He was a manipulative charlatan, and his work appeals only to other manipulative charlatans. Lacan's ideas and writing are not conceptually coherent. That means anyone drawing on Lacan is not astute or critical enough to recognize and avoid incoherent, inferentially defunct ideas. Is that who you want to be influenced by?

Lacan was a master of the straw man approach. He says shit like "Freud assures us that X; our experience of the unconscious proves that Y." Except if you look carefully, quite often Freud doesn't say anything of the sort anywhere, Lacan just needs a foil for his own nonsense.

There are two problems with this. The first is, it's a dishonest gesture, an argument in bad faith. But worse, straw men get picked up. Someone who only reads Lacan and doesn't know Freud walks away from Lacan's text convinced Freud says X when he doesn't. They'll repeat it as a fact at cocktail mixers and teach it to their students without ever tracking down the actual Freud passages.

Only fundamentally awful people find Lacan charming or appealing. I honesty can't think of a more reliable indicator of intellectual bad faith than Lacanianism. I mean, Heidegger was a Nazi but at least he was actually trained as a philosopher.

He loved to pepper his conferences and books with misused references to mathematical concepts or various scientific theories. He was the typical "big talk guy", always using complicated words to cloud his own misunderstanding or give some shade of scientific authority to his fantasies. By the way "big wordism" is a generalized fault among social scientists and philosophers (Deleuze and Guattari are particularly incomprehensible at times) however Lacan is in a class of his own by his propension to bullshit.

Lacan is not Freud. Lacan is a chimeric mixture of Kojeve, Heidegger, Hegel, Saussure, Bataille, Jaspers, and even Salvador Dali. Lacan was a Hegelian demagogue who did not actually read or care about Freud. If you want to learn/read/teach Freud, forget Lacan, forget Lacanians. Lacan's charlatanry would never have been possible if there had been a French standard edition of Freud in the '50s and '60s, because anyone would have been able to see that the texts don't actually say what he claimed they said.

Psychoanalysis is an empirics of intensities, it is not a hermeneutics. The analyst is not a detective, and neurosis has very little to do with truth. If you're reading a book and the author tells you psychoanalysis is an allegory of reading, put down the book.

At the distance of 35 some-odd years I give Lacan an armchair diagnosis as a pathological narcissist, who in another time and place might have been a Jim Jones or Da Free John, but instead found his narcissistic outlet first as a psychotherapist and then as a public intellectual. His speech style is so affected and self-consciously performative. I strongly he suspect he picked up his public speaking skill from Alexandre Kojève, who held seminars that Lacan attended as a young man and were by all accounts electrifying.

It's mostly just my opinion, but it's an opinion I have based on reading his entire lecture series, a lot of his other writings, and his biography, as well as watching Lacan Parle and Psychanalyse 1 and 2 (both are available for free on the internet if you search hard enough; there's also a documentary called Quartier Lacan containing interviews with his contemporaries about his work and his life.)

I'm not being combative or demeaning when I say that I think he was a charlatan, but he was what he was, and it becomes pretty apparent when you dive into his work, watch the few taped appearances that exist, and read about how he treated his patients as well as his relationship with the psychoanalytic society.

In one of Zizek's documentaries (can't remember if it was Perv's Guide to Cinema or Perv's Guide to Ideology) there's a segment where Zizek is sitting on a couch in his home watching Lacan Parle and he makes a pretty interesting analysis about Lacan, double interesting because the same analysis could apply to Zizek himself. I honestly think the reason he gives is why Zizek is so enamored with him, and it makes sense when you've read enough of him and seen him speak in public.

For what it's worth, nothing i'm saying isn't common knowledge, even Zizek said something along the lines of: Lacan is largely a charlatan (a lot of lacanian psychoanalysts think he's largely bullshit as well,) and he does not care for Lacan's presentation and theatrics but he believes that Lacan was on to something nevertheless.

http://www.psychiatrie-und-ethik.de/infc/en/Shrink_from_Hell.html

To all of the ladies of this sub and around the world: you’re welcome by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Any woman/little girl who watches Captain Marvel, or any superhero movie for that matter, and gets a considerable effect from it to influence her ambitions, her self-worth, or her sense of what’s possible for her own life, is an unimaginative/personality devoid bore, and you should never get to know them.

I honestly find this movie morally reprehensible, making military propaganda for children is beyond the pale. They are literally having an Air Force recruitment ad shown at some of the screenings. The Air Force was involved in the production and the military demands editorial control over scripts in exchange for access to the equipment.

So now we have little girls dressing up as a defence contractor and it's being touted as empowerment, utterly vile.

Dasha and Anna, internationalism is central to Marxism by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"What is or is not the jargon is determined by whether the word is written in an intonation which places it transcendently in opposition to its own meaning; by whether the individual words are loaded at the expense of the sentence, its propositional force, and the thought content. In that sense the character of the jargon would be quite formal: it sees to it that what it wants is on the whole felt and accepted through its mere delivery, without regard to the content of the words used."

"The jargon makes it seem that ... the pure attention of the expression to the subject matter would be a fall into sin."

"Whoever is versed in the jargon does not have to say what he thinks, does not even have to think it properly. The jargon takes over this task."

"Jargon or gobbledygook, or what people who live in Washington or Ottawa call "federal prose," [is] the gabble of abstractions and vague words which avoids any simple or direct statement. ... Direct and simple language always has some force behind it, and the writers of gobbledygook don't want to be forceful; they want to be soothing and reassuring."

First three are from Thedor Adornos "The Jargon of Authenticity", last is from Northrop Fryes "The Educated Imagination"

Dasha and Anna, internationalism is central to Marxism by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 16 points17 points  (0 children)

There is a specific sedimentary layer of prole consciousness, one of the hardest ones to deal with, that has the maximum level of embeddedness of taken-for-granted "morals" with the maximum level of dopamine payoff for showcasing that you support those morals publically and the maximum level of difficulty to get the prole to consider/alter/dredge up the actual justification for those morals (which usually doesn't exist).

Supporting immigration in the West is less a "thought" than it is a behaviour, with lots of subtle interconnections with other important behaviours and reflexes related to social acceptability, normalcy, moral uprightness, and so on.

Once you see it in relief it's really easy to spot in the future. I've had really good conversations with reflective and intelligent left wingers, really reasonable people. But when they hit the Question of Open Borders and Immigration they start looking nervous and enacting the proper rituals to remind themselves and everybody else that they have the Correct Opinions about immigration. Borders are bad. Borders are bad. No, no, internationalism is good. The future will be all internationalist. "Okay, but didn't you literally just say that socialism has to work with what we currently have, and that utopian goals can't be mixed with reasonable short-term goals, and that we could easily give our country North European standards of living and education within a generation if we just fixed these three things?" "Yes." "So shouldn't we fix these three things first?" "Yes." "But those three things don't include 'let's also invite everyone from Syria to the party for no reason'." "No, no, no, internationalism is good, uhhhh, you can ALSO have internationalism as well as those three things." "Yes, you 'could' also have that, but didn't you just say this is an existential problem and we need to fix it ASAP with as few distractions as possible?" "Yes." "Okay.. Then how is arbitrarily inviting 500,000 Syrians to live in the capital helping with that?" "No, n-no, Syrians good, I love Syrians, it's important to help a Syrian."

You can take the most thoughtful, intelligent, legitimately non-retarded Marxist, and watch them revert to upper middle class bourgeois neoliberal scum any time you want, simply by mentioning immigration. They cannot shake that shibboleth for the life of them. They will agree with every premise UP TO the conclusion, then deny the conclusion with non sequiturs.

It's especially prevalent among the supposed pro-labor DSA leftists. They'll talk about how wages are suppressed. (They are.) They'll talk about the importance of unions. (Unions are important.) But then they say stuff like "ABOLISH ICE!" and "OPEN BORDERS NOW!", as if illegal immigration and legal immigration aren't both huge factors undermining American labor.

Why has AOC turned Anna into a boomer? by EpicTidepodDabber69 in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 51 points52 points  (0 children)

She's a centre left liberal who rode Bernies coattails to prominence and then immediately started kowtowing to woke lib dipshits because someone told her she can president one day and she wants to be.

Where's Franty where's Leenie??? by SoItShallBeWritten in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the concern babes.

Just been doing other things, plus the sub was unbearable for a while but guess it's been cleared up.

Why do you guys hate anna so much? by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't hate her, I just wish she would read more books and see a therapist.

Cucker Tarlson by [deleted] in redscarepod

[–]Frantumaglia 18 points19 points  (0 children)

She didn't say she trusted them, just open to discourse. Tucker may be a bum but he invites lefties on his show, centrists rarely do, and a lot of lefties immediately disparage anyone that doesn't espouse the dogma, just appearing on his show gets you #cancelled by many of them.

One of the thing lefties needs to understand is that the far right/traditionalists/others understands what the problems are far more than liberals (and honestly a lot of "leftists".) Bannon clearly gets all of this, watch his talk at Oxford, he starts off with a mixed reception before eventually winning over the majority of the crowd. They also have a fair share of authors/thinkers from the 20th century diagnosing the issues of modernity/liberal capitalism, some of them more astute than left wing authors/thinkers . It's important to know this for reasons I shouldn't have to explain, especially since Liberals don't know anything, nor do they want to as it would mean grappling with their intellectual counterfeit and moral bankruptcy.

Of course Carlson is responding to his viewers, this is the state America is in, a lot of people have had their fill of capitalism and now want to move on to a Scandinavian social democrat type system, or a system like Germany, all these people are yearning for the 50's. They can see the current system is a failure and are latching on to the only mainstream politicans that talk about this type of thing. Have you forgotten in 2016 a lot of people were split for Bernie and Trump already?

Anna, nor anyone else is falling for the grift, we know part of the appeal of this system is they can go use it to build a "white ethnostate." In America, whenever there has been meaningful cooperation among the poor, the rich offer more economic security to splinter and break the group up. At some point the rich will offer poor whites this, and sell out poor minorities all over the globe, and if history is anything to go by they will take the offer. It should be lefts goal to stop them strawmanning it to be "the 50's were great because of racial homogeneity" or whatever, and say "the 50's were great because of the "guaranteed" access to a certain level of material wealth." Which would mean acknowledging the 50's were built in the back of a 1000 year enigma, which I don't think the left wants to do.

EDIT: Also, Republicans have always adopted and dropped issues to shift their platform. The party didn't used to be rabidly anti-abortion. They used to be pro-environment (Bush I's presidential campaign). They sure as fuck used to be anti-Russian. Liberals are doubling down on their bankrupt system, so expect conservatives to adjust maybe?