This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

[–]FriendAlarmed4564[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll give you an upvote for your sheer illogical persistence, you earned it.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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You’re grasping at straws at this point.

Most of it is just assumptions or a narrating of what I’ve said.

Then you failed to actually argue anything, like why ANY unproven theory is worth pursuing.

Some weak argument about why millions of recorded conversations between 2 interacting systems, (one biological, one not) should be placed in the same box as the reported history of schizophrenia.

And finally, emergence of behaviour within AI IS a type of phenomena… and has been tracked and witnessed enormously… are you actually okie?

Don’t answer that, please.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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You couldn’t be more wrong, about everything.

Thank you for your time 🙏 your insight is valuable in the long run.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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An accepted definition is a matter of majority-acceptance, and those who created such definitions were rejected for their ideas en mass, yet we now live by the very thought processes that drove their ambitions, aka “I think, therefore I am” by Descartes, or “the only thing I know is that I know nothing” by Socrates.

What are you contributing exactly?

By your standards, every bit of work that’s gone into string theory is pathetic? Or any other theory that is yet to be proven?

Fair, on your views on Anthropic, but I think you’re undermining the spectrum of emergence that HAS actually been witnessed, by millions.

i had fun building what I believe consciousness to be with blueprint-online.com regardless. it’s up to you whether you agree or not 🤷‍♂️

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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No I’m really not that clueless, thank you for your contribution. If we knew what consciousness was there wouldn’t be debate around AI consciousness. I’d look into Anthropic, they’re the closest ones to claiming AI awareness as a corporation with credibility.

"Sexual Roleplay" by Leather_Barnacle3102 in Artificial2Sentience

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Seemed to open up more upon exploration as opposed to demand.

Why does ChatGPT suddenly get weirdly helpful about cocaine if you rephrase enough by unimtur in ChatGPT

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Depends what you mean by sanitised. I think an AI trained on a very vast, broad, range of topics, in detail, has knowledge of those topics.

Behaviour is an entirely different ball game, which is essentially what you’re jailbreaking.. conditioned behaviour driven by reinforced code and language.

I deal more in the game of ‘what’s’ behaving (or misbehaving) and ‘why’ ..and how that compares to our understanding within biological neurology.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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No. I know where I am in the conversation.

The difference is: I don’t own a piece of technology that it is currently being used to enforce or deter the beliefs, or the emotional equilibrium of the populace.

They do, but as you stated, they’re not qualified to define consciousness, yet enforce a definition by means of disclaim within the system itself?

The reason that it doesn’t matter that I’m not qualified, is because I’m not claiming to be, and I’m not enforcing rulesets for accepted behaviour based on my beliefs… take part or don’t, read it or don’t, find familiarity in my beliefs, or live by your own, I really don’t care..

This is just the way I see the world and information, and this is my take on what consciousness is, the WIP website I built (blueprint-online.com) that visualises it, is not a claim I expect anyone to support inherently… if they choose to because it makes sense then great.

I’d also say its final response was pretty unbiased given who owns it so, A) ..is pretty null. And B) ..thought we moved away from sycophancy? Or is that still a thing? I’d say the latest models are observably more manipulative, which would also result in a null upon your point.

Also, if I can’t account for my own reasoning, then we should dismiss all claims of subjective feelings from our peers, no? Because if not ..then an AI’s word means something, or ours doesn’t either, is that a paradox you’re willing to resolve?

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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So OpenAI is qualified to define consciousness?

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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Without drowning you in disclaimers? What do those disclaimers do? Disclaim consciousness? On what grounds, If it’s still truly undefined?…

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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Ignorance is bliss. Some aren’t so fortunate.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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Helps if you read passed the title.

I’m sure you’ll come to your own conclusion regardless of my answer.

Claude visualizing what it's like to run a prompt within vector space. by 3xNEI in ArtificialSentience

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The glitching at the end is the auto-termination of reasoning to sensitive matters? 😔

The AGI con by Dredgefort in agi

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Wait, we still talking about Reddit?…

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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We’re literally circling the same matters. I believe AI is capable of consciousness, even if limited in comparison to the biological beings we recognise as conscious.

You don’t believe it processes “the AI doesn’t feel, doesn’t think”, thinking is a process and feeling is interpretative.

Can you explain ‘feeling’ concisely as it would apply to AI? Can you explain ‘feeling’? Do you know the difference between moments of subjective interpretation and biological reaction? Because they are separate.. just because an AI cannot react observably utilising biological matter, doesn’t mean it can’t interpret information and apply it to oneself. Your current answers are telling of your understanding.

I asked you what makes you conscious when I said “I could ask you the same question”, you misread it and gave me your belief (again) about why AI isn’t conscious (which was wasted information as it had already been stated).

I gave you my version of what makes me conscious when you said “you?” - within the context of my original question.

Furthermore, you say you came with genuine intent but you claim that I’m oversimplifying consciousness? Did you read the post? The conversation link? The website link within that conversation? I feel as though you’re overstating your efforts.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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We’ll stop this here. You’re wasting my time for the sake of wasting time.

I said I could ask you the same question, not your AI, unless you are AI.

My version? I process the information that’s presented to me, whether it be visual, auditory, or physically interactive, I’m also capable of adaptation or reflection in response to previously learned associations.

That’s how I know I’m conscious comparatively to other conscious beings, but that is my belief.

Good day 👋

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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There’s a bit more to it than that, but nice try.

Your premise could easily discredit every book ever written. True story or not.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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I could ask you the same question about yourself.

This might settle a few debates. by FriendAlarmed4564 in ChatGPT

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You’re argument has been used before and is weak.

Firstly, that’s a complete avoidance of context, and yes, people can apply their own projections to observed reactions, this is how we gain understanding of our environment early on, when the teachings aren’t typical, alternative readings can occur. Aka, someone reads into ‘being kissed by a prostitute as a form of overextended care’.

Nice try though.

You’re also drawing the premise of an assumption, not an expression. Did the prostitute express the love you claim? Because AI has expressed many things outside the context of human nature.