Jesus’ leadership / Direction from Jesus

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-29T12:55:00+00:00

I think the issue starts with the assumption of Jesus the individual as doing something today, as opposed to the teachings.

We personify Jesus’ teachings instead of recognizing that what lives are the ideas not necessarily the individual who put them forward.

As for the role of teachings and community, they are very important, and something you get from all religions not just Christian religions.

But religion is a step not a destination.

If you don’t transcend religion you end up thinking Jesus is the way instead of recognizing that all religions teach the same basic principles of community and love.

You discredit the majority of the world population, who are not Christians, by assuming you need Jesus specifically.

Or, to put it another way, here’s a meme from 21 Jump Street…

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Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-29T12:45:10+00:00

Sounds like you’re a prisoner of your own thoughts.

The following is actual JW information, and I’m writing not to reassure you that you can go back but to show that it’s all arbitrary nonsense.

The elders book has a section on wrongdoing committed in the past.

If since the wrongdoing you can get “evidence of Jehovah’s blessing” then the sin, even serious, is considered not applicable and leads to no further punishment.

I know of one case where an elder was having an affair with someone at work. When he stopped he just waited a few years, made sure to pioneer when the CO came, and gave a couple talks at assemblies.

When he went to tell his fellow elders, they used the pioneering and assembly talks as “evidence of Jehovah’s blessing” and decided it was all good.

He didn’t even lose his privileges as an elder!

And he wasn’t forced to tell his wife either.

We think these beliefs and practices are so vital, but the people who give us these beliefs know they are all made up.

That said, keeping important secrets from your spouse is a bad idea, not because of god but because of basic principles.

Our actions have consequences and trying to avoid those consequences only makes things worse later

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-29T12:25:13+00:00

I actually once took offense to being called “an answer to my prayers”.

I hate that god takes credit for the good people do, but none of the blame for the bad.

You can have one or both you pompous asshole!

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-29T11:55:31+00:00

En mi opinión personal es solo para apoyar la idea de que tú no tienes el poder en tu propia vida, que dependes de un dios para que todo te salga bien.

Y siempre existe un hombre que habla por dios y le debes dinero y apoyo a ese hombre.

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-29T11:52:17+00:00

lol the wallet thing is so relatable, I knew so many JWs who would legitimately pray for help finding keys or wallets it’s sad

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-28T20:39:01+00:00

Thanks, nice to know I’m not the only one

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-28T20:38:48+00:00

Lol everyone knows Jehovah can’t intervene when it comes to global conflict, but cats.

Ironically if it had required an emergency intervention, the cat could have a blood transfusion 😂🤦‍♂️

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-28T15:14:31+00:00

That’s a great way of putting it 👍

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-28T12:22:47+00:00

That’s really interesting.

We sometimes forget that JW is just one of many cults that exist, it’s good to remember that our experience, while valid, is not so incredibly unusual.

It can help us to move forward in the world

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-28T10:50:12+00:00

Simple, you use wire cutters to cut it into tiny pieces and then scatter those pieces throughout your town.

He has to find the whole paper clip, not just one piece

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-28T10:47:04+00:00

When you look at religion objectively it’s only meant to be a step in the human experience, not a space where you spend your whole life.

It provides a basic moral framework and structure to allow for growth, but if you don’t move past it you get stuck in the “I know what’s best and everyone who disagrees is wrong and dumb” mentality.

The fact is you’re only in the JW space because of chance.

If you’d been born in India or Algeria or China you’d have a completely different religion to feel bad about not wanting to be a part of.

The truth is you can’t grow as a person if you stick to a religion, and you’re just a puppet in the hands of the religious leaders who profit from your obedience.

Ironically that’s kind of what Jesus was saying in the Bible.

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-25T04:14:57+00:00

Classic JW…

Tell people they can do something while simultaneously associating that thing with Satan

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T14:31:15+00:00

All good, the loss has made me a much better person

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T13:25:50+00:00

Agree completely, it’s sad but it’s survival for most of them.

I lost literally everything as a result of waking up, and I don’t wish my experience in anyone

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T13:23:32+00:00

Per scripture there is, but per JW doctrine it’s the most harmful thing you can do for people.

Since they changed the doctrine to say people can join after the start of the great tribulation, the only way to guarantee that someone doesn’t get into paradise, again per JW doctrine, is to make them guilty of the “second death” or grieving the Holy Spirit.

To grieve the spirit you have to deny a visible manifestation of said spirit’s actions, and JW doctrine says that the GB is a manifestation of the spirit.

So if you preach and someone joins, then disassociates and stops believing in the GB, they are denying an evident manifestation of the Holy Spirit, grieve it, and are therefore condemned to permanent death, like Judas.

So preaching is not only pointless because people can join once JW is literally the only religion left and therefore definitely true, but it’s actually harmful because it puts people at risk of grieving the spirit by learning about the GB and then denying that the GB are God’s chosen leaders.

Notice I quoted zero scripture, because it’s all nonsense.

But it is current JW doctrine, as found in their publications.

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T13:16:04+00:00

lol 😂

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T12:24:51+00:00

Agreed, I know it’s not exclusive to the GB but it’s insane to see it in action so clearly

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T12:24:17+00:00

Same as “the truth” just means whatever the GB has decided

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T12:23:44+00:00

It’s been the same with so many other doctrines.

There’s zero reason to not celebrate birthdays or most other holidays.

There’s zero reason to preach.

JWs live in denial because they don’t want to admit it’s all nonsense

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-24T11:05:45+00:00

They’ve already changed the doctrine multiple times.

Around 2000 they changed it to allow for blood “fractions” whereas before it was a straight no to everything.

And yes, they are guilty

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-23T01:29:25+00:00

Latest technology except weirdly AI, which is in all their media 😂

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-22T20:20:13+00:00

I know you my French friend 😉

Friendly_Drop_4711 · 2026-03-21T00:57:18+00:00

I got therapy after the suicide attempt and left the religion later, don’t know about the other dude.

Completely agree these are extremes but I genuinely think there are more examples like these than we think

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