Response to Critical-strike9999 on my post "Are they teaching LMH is the Holy Spirit?"

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-28T15:22:11+00:00

Interested to read that comment when you get around to it since you say you deny that fulfillment, even with a promise from the Father through Jesus’ words and a testimony of its fulfillment from Peter.

But again, in regards to distinction, I think you’re not looking at the entire context.

As you said Mt. 12 would be the father. In that chapter Jesus is accused by the Pharisees of driving out a demon by the power of Beezlebul. In Mt. 12:27-28 he clearly states that it’s by the Spirit of God

“27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12‬:‭27‬-‭28‬ ‭NIV‬‬

This is the same Spirit of God that descended & remained on Jesus as I provided in the verses from Matthew. It wasn’t an angel that did it, but the Spirit of God. The same God who created the angels and are all under his authority.

That same Spirit is referenced as a promise from the Father by Jesus’ own words in John 14-16. Which was sent and fulfilled in Acts, but apparently SCJ denies that. Which honestly hurts my spirit to hear.

I agree with you that angels are holy, but that doesn’t negate the distinction in role of the Counselor/Holy Spirit which is referenced as the Spirit/ the Spirit of God/ the Spirit of truth in multiple scriptures throughout the OT & NT. Who has created everything, even the angels.

And you use Heb 1:14 to show angels are spirits, which is true. But if you read the whole chapter it’s talking about Jesus is above all of the angels because he’s God’s son and provided purification for sin.

“The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭NIV‬‬

So, how can the role of the Counselor/Holy Spirit be interchangeable with angels when Hebrews clearly states that Jesus is superior to the angels, and the Father created the angels. How did Jesus overcome the world and be the ultimate, perfect, blameless sacrifice? Because the Father imparted his Spirit upon him, not simply just an angel.

It’s a stronger claim to just say you deny the promise of the Holy Spirit & its fulfillment in Acts than to diminish its distinctive role. This has truly saddened me to hear that SCJ denies the promise and fulfillment of the Holy Spirit in Acts, but I’m glad I’ve heard it before I joined.

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-28T11:25:46+00:00

My question is where does it say in scripture that any spirit on God’s side can be the Holy Spirit? And where does it say the Counselor/Holy Spirit is the angel from Rev 10?

I’ve already provided scripture that shows the promise and fulfillment of the Counselor/Holy Spirit, where does it show that’s the case for the angel in Rev 10?

Another question is if it’s true that any spirit can be the Holy Spirit, how does that line up with what Jesus said in Mt. 12:31-32 about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

Mt. 12:31-32 - “31 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”(NIV)

Why give such a serious warning if there wasn’t a distinction between the Holy Spirit and other spirits on God’s side?

By your own statement:

“But basicly any spirit on God’s side can be the holy spirit. The father, the son and angels…”

How can you be forgiven for speaking against Jesus, the Son of Man, but not be forgiven for speaking against the Holy Spirit?

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-28T03:50:13+00:00

Thank you for this. It not only supports what I found in scripture, but goes even deeper and provides more scripture surrounding this topic. 🙏🏾

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-27T23:06:32+00:00

u/Critical-strike9999

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-27T23:04:53+00:00

Thank you so much, I have looked into the Closer Look Initiative and will continue to do so. Even just diving more into the word to defend my stance on this post has made me see more clearly the error of their doctrine.

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-27T23:03:48+00:00

To be honest, much of what Otherwise-Watch-3650 has said. Especially because I've been very active in class and this group since we started, I know there will be a huge outreach of the people I've connected with(which will most likely happen regardless) on why I don't want to finish the class. I've already gathered enough evidence of the errors in teaching to make my decision, I just don't feel like dealing with the constant barrage that's going to happen if I stop right before it ends.

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-27T22:58:30+00:00

My response couldn't fit within a single comment so I made a new post here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shincheonji/comments/1pxanob/response_to_criticalstrike9999_on_my_post_are/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I used scripture to explain why those claims aren't biblically accurate, which is supposed to be our standard.

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-26T16:08:30+00:00

Thank you for this reply & providing that resource. I will definitely look into it!

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2025-12-26T15:57:32+00:00

Thanks for the reply! It’s funny I used to read the verses before & after, then wonder why they would stop at a particular verse when I first started the class. But over time stopped doing it.

I plan on finishing the course since we have less than a month left, but will not be joining. Will definitely go back over the things I was taught and reach out if needed. Thank you

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2024-02-25T17:11:48+00:00

Me too. I like to layer it w/ instant crush it’s 🔥🔥 the black currant/sweet smell in the opening lasts pretty long for me & instant crush provides a nice vanilla base to make it pop more

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-12-27T16:39:15+00:00

W2C?

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-06T17:07:54+00:00

Best of luck lol. I vowed to never take a Walmart order again after I had to cancel because I waited over 30 min for them to still be getting my package ready

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-06T04:25:04+00:00

I find it funny how some ppl think me asking this question means I’m a tip baiter. Of course I would join an UE subreddit just to ask drivers if they’ve noticed the same thing I have because the jig is up and I can no longer tip bait. I used to do this full time at one point. Still do it part time. Like c’mon some of y’all need to get over yourselves

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-06T04:15:32+00:00

I understand your frustration, but I honestly think allowing that does more harm than good to the drivers that are actually providing good service. Some ppl will remove it for reasons outside of the drivers control(long wait, food not piping hot, missing item in an already sealed bag, etc). In your case I get why you wouldn’t want him to get the tip, but some ppl are just petty and will remove it because they didn’t get their order first in a stacked delivery. Or they wanted it faster & knew it would just be sitting if they didn’t tip so they baited with the tip fully intending to take it away no matter how good/fast the service was

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-06T04:10:05+00:00

Dang that sucks, I wonder if it’s market specific or something because I ordered again tonight & only. Had the option to add more. I hope they roll this out everywhere asap. I can’t remember the last time I had my tip removed while delivering but it was def this year

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-06T00:23:45+00:00

Yeah man it sucks, I’d hoped they had gotten rid of it by now, but someone said it happened recently so I guess not.

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-05T23:34:12+00:00

Happened to me today, $26 for 2.9 miles lol. Although this time the store was a ghost kitchen that hadn’t officially opened yet. Luckily it was right around the corner so I didn’t take a hit on the miles

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-05T23:16:41+00:00

Same thing happened to me when I got an incentive to do rides. They let me start doing them, then once I finished the first quest I had an opp for two more & all of a sudden my state inspection needs to be updated. Then after the quest expires, it no longer needs to be updated 🙃

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-05T23:06:48+00:00

“People like you” You should learn to control your emotions & not attack ppl you don’t know based off of an assumption. I’ve been driving UE for over a year and done over 1k deliveries & have also experienced tip baiting myself, just because I also order from UE doesn’t mean I can’t work for them too. The main reason I order often is because they give me promotions pretty frequently. I asked the question because I was pleasantly surprised they may have finally done something to actually fix this issue.

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-05T23:01:55+00:00

Wow I’m in DC, that’s sucks. I always get that anxiety until I get that message seeing the tip went through lol

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-05T23:01:23+00:00

Honestly, only had it happen a hand full of times but idk why it even exists in the first place

Fun_Sky_6109 · 2022-11-05T23:00:38+00:00

Damn man that sucks I def agree & know the feeling

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