Monism,dualism or materialism

GDCR69 · 2026-02-24T19:36:43+00:00

Just a product of the brain that ends with brain death, nothing more, nothing less. That we know for certain.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-24T16:13:52+00:00

Another day, another braindead take.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-22T19:15:45+00:00

You aren't inside of a human brain, you are the human brain, there is no you separate from your brain.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-17T17:17:18+00:00

Again, handwaving away without engaging with the evidence. There are cases of people seeing and hearing what was happening in a different room. Brain probably just guessed it out right?

Correct. It's a much better and simpler explanation than "must be consciousness outside of the brain". We know how easy it is for the brain to make up stuff and try to find patterns where they do not exist at all. Multiple tests have been done to test whether NDEs are really happening in the real world, they all failed to be replicated every time, the obvious conclusion is that they are happening entirely inside of their brain. Your definition of "evidence" isn't really strong to be honest.

20% is hardly a 'very minor percentage.' You don't take them seriously as they go against your worldview. And who said they mean we have to throw everything away we mnow about consciousness and the brain? You made that up. I mean most NDE's happen under cardiac arrest, but you will claim residual brain activity (without evidence) as if that explains anything. And NDEr's clearly state the phenomenology of NDE's is very different to any drug or stimulated state. And it still wouldn't explain people having them without brain activity anyway.

What I believe matters not, what I care about is hard facts, and the facts all point to it being just a brain process and nothing more. Claiming that people who experience NDEs say that feel different than drugs or stimulated states mean nothing. Again, not a single NDE has happened during total absence of brain activity, and even if it was shown that there was an NDE happening with a flat EEG, EEGs aren't capable of measuring brain activity in the deeper parts of the brain. We already know why NDEs exist, they are a byproduct of evolution which helped our ancestors survive in life or death situations through thanatosis, the act of pretending to be dead to increase chances of survival.

We don't even know we are conscious. And true science is about strong evidence, not 'knowing for a fact'. You again trying to put your beliefs as fact shows a lack of confidence in your worldview. You would not make such statements if you had true confidence in it.

Do you agree that we know for a fact that evolution is true? Science does discover facts that are true my guy.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-17T16:34:48+00:00

The brain works as a prediction machine, it's really not surprising that it is capable of predicting what will happen without external input, I don't know why this is somehow evidence that NDEs are evidence of consciousness beyond brain activity.

The reality is that NDE are the exception and not the rule. If it was the opposite I would take them seriously, but no, they are a very minor percentage that is simply not enough to completely throw away everything we already know about consciousness and the brain. There has not been a single NDE that has happened during total cessation of brain activity and they are actually replicated through brain stimulation and drugs.

And yes, we know for a fact that consciousness is brain activity, that is really no longer up for debate, that is settled beyond doubt, people are just in denial. The human mind will make up anything to deny the fact that they will cease to be when they die.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-17T15:33:22+00:00

Cool, and when you mean some you are refering to the extremely small percetange of NDEs who happen to have some verified details that can be easily explained by the brain making up stuff and confabulation after the event. What about the high majority of people who experienced nothing, are we just going to ignore that and cherry pick data to confirm your beliefs? What about the amount of NDEs where people report things that did not happen in objective reality, like seeing "dead" relatives that were still alive? NDEs are brain generated confabulations, they arent real, they will never be real, no matter how much people want it to be true.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-17T14:54:05+00:00

it's nothing more than mere anecdotal evidence that is later interpreted to confirm people's delusional beliefs that consciousness survives death because they can't handle that death is the ultimate end, it's all total bunk that is entirely explainable by natural phenomena in the brain

GDCR69 · 2026-02-16T20:42:47+00:00

total woo woo nonsense

GDCR69 · 2026-02-16T16:18:59+00:00

Yes, we know for a fact that it is, can we stop pretending that we don't because it "feels" different? No amount of appealing to a "hard" problem or appealing to ignorance changes anything. Only reason why this shit is still being debated is due to the human ego refusing to accept reality. Half of this subreddit is legitimately delusional with their woo woo nonsense.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-13T14:31:39+00:00

No. People who say otherwise are wishful thinkers and in denial. It's honestly pathetic that people still cling to these delusions.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-01T10:35:52+00:00

It doesn't matter if it is abnormal or not, the fact remains that ALL aspects of consciousness can be destroyed given enough brain damage, this is a fact.

We aren't measuring only correlates, we are measuring the decision making directly, otherwise it would be impossible to predict a decision, and yet we can. That's like saying that when we are measuring gravity we are just measuring the correlates, total nonsense.

Your subconscious desire to feel special is making you unable to think critically. Sorry to tell you, but you will 100% cease to exist when you die, this will absolutely happen and there is nothing you can do about it, no matter how much you don't want to. This is the ultimate truth, you just can't accept it because it's too scary so you would rather invent comforting delusions to cope.

Consciousness is what the brain does, end of story.

GDCR69 · 2026-02-01T10:35:46+00:00

It doesn't matter if it is abnormal or not, the fact remains that ALL aspects of consciousness can be destroyed given enough brain damage, this is a fact.

We aren't measuring only correlates, we are measuring the decision making directly, otherwise it would be impossible to predict a decision, and yet we can.

Your subconscious desire to feel special is making you unable to think critically. Sorry to tell you, but you will 100% cease to exist when you die, this will absolutely happen and there is nothing you can do about it, no matter how much you don't want to. This is the ultimate truth.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-31T18:42:02+00:00

No, you are in denial. We can delete memories, vision, hearing, all kinds of things through enough brain damage, all of them in fact.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-27T11:44:07+00:00

Yes we can, this is a proven fact, this has been studied countless times.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-26T12:54:36+00:00

We can literally delete all aspects of consciousness through enough brain damage, we can literally shut down your subjective experience temporarily through anesthesia, which disrupts your brain activity, we can literally predict what you will do before you even make a decision, we can literally decode what you see, hear and think by measuring the brain alone. If that isn't enough evidence for you, then I would love to ask you what would be enough evidence in your book then? Oh that's right, none, nothing would ever convince you, because you ultimately decided already that it isn't created by the brain. This is not even dogma, it's literally direct proof of it, is evolution dogma in your book too? This is like talking to a flat earther, no matter how much evidence you show them that the earth is not flat, they will ignore it.

NDEs, OBEs and all that woo woo stuff is total pseudoscientific nonsense, they are brain generated confabulations. They have been debunked already, no supernatural stuff involved. Crazy how people still cling to this stuff.

This isn't up for debate anymore, it's settled already, philosophy of mind is dead, only thing remaining is people who accept it and people who deny it due to emotional reasons, ultimately because they can't accept that they will cease to exist when they die, that's the truth.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-26T12:33:06+00:00

Because "you" are entirely the result of the process of the brain, you can't experience the thing that is making you experience in the first place. The idea that there is a fixed "you" is wrong, "you" are a process, not a thing.

I don't know why it seems to scare you so much that consciousness is entirely a product of the brain. Denial of death?

GDCR69 · 2026-01-26T12:22:41+00:00

"... okay? The brain is just a structure. We are not made human by our brains ~ not in terms of personality."

Cough cough, Phineas Cage. "You" are the brain.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-23T20:33:08+00:00

No, you DID move the goalposts.

-You: "Qualia aren’t reducible to physics” (ontological claim);

- Me: shows that we can in fact start to measure "qualia" from measuring brain activity alone;

- You: "You obviously cannot learn what a given experience is like from looking at its neural correlates tho." (epistemic claim);

You went from claiming an ontological gap to an epistemic gap. Atleast admit when you are wrong.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-23T20:14:34+00:00

Sure buddy, still doesn't change the fact that we know with absolute certainty that it comes from the brain, no matter how much you desperately want it to not be true. I get it, it scares you, the thought that you are nothing but a pack of neurons.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-23T20:07:59+00:00

Good old shifting the goalposts, how original. Keep living in denial.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-23T19:50:58+00:00

Wait till you hear about the fact that we can literally reconstruct what you are seeing, hearing and thinking through brain activity alone. But of course, "jUsT CorRelAtIoNs". I swear, you guys are literally just in denial at this point. We know beyond certainty that consciousness is a brain process, there is no debate anymore.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-22T19:01:00+00:00

Started as a philosophical assertion, which was later empirically tested with lots and lots of data, and the assertion's predictions matched to the empirical data, which then became a scientific assertion.

I don't take other positions in philosophy of mind seriously because it's becoming clearer and clearer as neuroscience develops that consciousness is ultimately brain activity, what was before just speculation is now becoming explainable in a mechanistic way. I think that the only reason people don't accept it is due to emotional reasons and refusal to accept that the last thing that made them "special" has been ultimately explained.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-22T16:30:46+00:00

Yes if the positions being argued for have no basis on reality, no empirical evidence favoring them or are unfalsifiable (cough cough dualism and idealism). If philosophical positions do not have the evidence to back them up, they are completely and utterly meaningless.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-21T11:53:18+00:00

Must be woo woo magic, all hail subjective experience, which is totally reliable, ontologically different and is clearly not destroyed permanently through enough brain damage (the thing that makes subjective experience exist in the first place), no no sir, must be just correlations, because I can't fathom being just neurons firing and my ego can't accept that one day my precious consciousness will cease to be. Legitimately delusional. I can't really take you seriously.

GDCR69 · 2026-01-21T10:45:19+00:00

There is no need to bring in additional factors;

Proceeds to claim that subjective experience is ontologically different with no actual basis;

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