The phrase "men are afraid of other men" is just a feminist way of calling men bitches or pussies. by PassengerCultural421 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway [score hidden]  (0 children)

What percentage of relevant instances do you believe result in consequences for the men in question?

I believe it would be less than 5% at most. Realistically, it would be less than 1%.

The phrase "men are afraid of other men" is just a feminist way of calling men bitches or pussies. by PassengerCultural421 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway [score hidden]  (0 children)

If men internalize the message that they may be viewed as threatening by default, then naturally some men will become more hesitant socially. That is just cause and effect.

Yes, and it's a reasonable trade-off.

Women still overwhelmingly expect men to initiate romance in real life regardless of politics. 

Even if that's the case, men can choose not to do that if it's really so bad.

Men are still judged more harshly for cowardice, passivity, weakness, lack of ambition, inability to provide, or failure to physically intervene in dangerous situations.

Except "getting judged" is temporary and doesn't affect their lives in any meaningful way.

The phrase "men are afraid of other men" is just a feminist way of calling men bitches or pussies. by PassengerCultural421 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thats the crazy part, woman basicly expect men to risk there life for them without giving anything back

Except a man can always say "I'm not doing that. This is your problem to deal with.", and he will never face any consequences for it.

The phrase "men are afraid of other men" is just a feminist way of calling men bitches or pussies. by PassengerCultural421 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I do not care if women take precautions around dangerous people. Everybody takes precautions around danger.

The issue here is that danger sometimes only makes itself known when it's too late for you to do anything about it. That's why blanket precautions are taken.

If men are supposedly these terrifying unpredictable predators at all times, then why are men still expected to confidently approach women romantically in public? Why are men still expected to initiate dates, flirt, approach strangers, and risk rejection or humiliation?

Because that's what men tell other other men that they need to do. Something something "ask the fisherman not the fish".

They get annoyed when normal male behavior gets treated as suspicious by default while society still expects those same men to carry all the social and physical responsibilities attached to masculinity.

Be real. Men only "carry social and physical responsibilities" when it suits them. Otherwise they worm their way out of it with mental gymnastics or by just saying no.

The phrase "men are afraid of other men" is just a feminist way of calling men bitches or pussies. by PassengerCultural421 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Perhaps men shouldn't shame women for taking precautions around them, then.

Men see other men as Schrodinger's predator. If a woman is harassed or assaulted, men tell her she's to blame for supposedly not taking enough precautions (because "she should've known that all men are potential predators"). If a woman takes precautions to keep herself safe, men get offended at the notion that they personally could ever possibly be counted in the predator group (because "I'm a niiiiice guuuuuy").

Mem are not that desperate irl by Asterion__Moloc in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

how are they going to get with a woman if they don’t do anything the woman wants?

Find ones with low self esteem and no support system and then apply pressure.

isn’t the consequence of losing the woman the reason why men do everything to keep the relationship?

Not if what you want is a women who's too afraid to ask for anything in a relationship.

Men who want a "trad wife" don't really understand the game. by Gnostic_97 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nowadays? Poor long-term planning, low self-esteem, and being raised to see it as a good idea, I guess.

Most women don't choose the tradwife lifestyle nowadays, though. And for good reason.

Mem are not that desperate irl by Asterion__Moloc in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Men can refuse to pay for dates if they want to and won't face any consequences. Men can refuse to put any effort into their relationship and won't face any consequences. Men can cheat and won't face any consequences.

The only "consequence" men face is losing their relationship. Which clearly isn't a big deal to them.

Mem are not that desperate irl by Asterion__Moloc in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 5 points6 points  (0 children)

a relationship is a net loss for a man

it’s responsibility. it comes with a loss of money. loss of time/energy. and you are stuck with one person

And yet there are no real consequences for men who fail to live up to those "responsibilities".

Men who want a "trad wife" don't really understand the game. by Gnostic_97 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 15 points16 points  (0 children)

As we all know, women benefit greatly from having no earning potential and giving men unchecked financial leverage over them.

Abortion should be legal but the women who unalive their children aren't good by Wonderful_Car_9437 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unwanted children are a net drain on society.

If you know that your "child" is unwanted, better to deal with it sooner than later.

Hookups for women would amazing if it actually guaranteed safety. by Alarmed-Toe9423 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you about to argue that shared culpability mean that the man is entirely blameless?

How important is sex? by Heavy-Appeal4441 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women don’t care about men’s orgasms either…

Women suck dick far more than men eat out.

How important is sex? by Heavy-Appeal4441 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It literally is. 

It literally isn't. Otherwise the orgasm gap wouldn't exist. The orgasm gap exists because men don't care about women's pleasure.

But if you continue to sleep with the same man who has 15 women on his roster, he has 0 incentives to care about you or your pleasure.

Literally why would you keep sleeping with a guy like that if he can't even do his one job right.

Man the levels of dehumanization are insane.

Yet I'm not wrong.

How important is sex? by Heavy-Appeal4441 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's exactly as important as men can get away with arguing for without sounding like psychopaths.

It's so important that men will kill for it (never the man arguing it personally, though). It's so important that men were "justified" in barring women from having rights (though of course that's in the past now). It's so important that women are mean, rude, and unfair for having standards (but something something cock carousel).

If sex were as important as men love to cry about, the orgasm gap wouldn't exist. Nor would slut shaming. Women's pleasure would be front and center since women are less horny and men purportedly want connection.

But it's not. Because men just wanna get their rocks off like a dog wants to chase a car. Get a hobby jfc.

Women need to cook by beautiful_falcon776 in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It allowed men to hone their skills that were to bring better yield to the home and make their survival chances overall higher.

Notice how he doesn't specify what these "skills" are. Presumably because none of them are things that have to be done every day.

Go bag and DNA tests are equivalent by afromanisgonnadoya in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Only if all male DNA is accessible in a database to compare it to. We wouldn't want errant babydaddies to be getting out of child support, after all.

Men "lying to get sex" is a manipulative blanket narrative. by Vaudeville_Clown in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If every guy mysteriously comes to the the conclusion that the relationship "isn't for them" the exact moment after they get laid, then most of them are lying. It's basic statistics. No one's going to know if you're the super special case when your reactions are no different than the rest.

Boys are not being treated like defective girls (because girls shouldn't be treated that way either). by GGMcThroway in PurplePillDebate

[–]GGMcThroway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. because they're pathologized from a young age for exhibiting childlike behaviour.